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1. 04:31 AM - Antenna for hand-held transceiver on panel (Glen Matejcek)
2. 05:12 AM - Re: Antenna for hand-held transceiver on panel (Carlos Trigo)
3. 05:23 AM - Re: Power and audio input jacks (Brett Ferrell)
4. 06:00 AM - Panasonic LC-RD1217P and Van's Battery Box Misfit (James H Nelson)
5. 08:31 AM - Re: Antenna for hand-held transceiver on panel (Brian Lloyd)
6. 09:58 AM - Re: Antenna for hand-held transceiver on panel (Dale Ensing)
7. 11:22 AM - Re: Panasonic LC-RD1217P and Van's Battery Box Misfit (Craig Payne)
8. 01:04 PM - Photo file size (Terry Watson)
9. 01:09 PM - Generator/regulator test (Curt)
10. 01:30 PM - Re: Photo file size (Craig Payne)
11. 01:42 PM - one Main switch or 2 spst switches? Alt. field circuit breaker (sarg314)
12. 02:44 PM - Ray Allen Trim Servo Wiring (Joe Dubner)
13. 02:59 PM - Van's gauges power consumption (sarg314)
14. 03:24 PM - Re: Ray Allen Trim Servo Wiring (Craig Payne)
15. 04:29 PM - Re: Power and audio input jacks (Mickey Coggins)
16. 04:53 PM - Re: Van's gauges power consumption (Steve Allison)
17. 08:05 PM - CB's (Robert G. Wright)
18. 11:25 PM - Experimental IFR w/o a certified GPS or looking for a copy of RTCA/DO-229C (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Antenna for hand-held transceiver on panel |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi Craig-
>Comments? What other approaches have others taken?
I've got a permanently mounted socket / switch unit from iCom. The panel
mount radio and antenna coax are permanently mounted to it, and I have a
length of feedline for the handheld that terminates in a plug. If I should
need the handheld, all I do is plug it's feedline into the socket. The
panel mount is disconnected from the antenna, and the handheld is now on
line. Very neat and simple. No making or breaking of BNC connex while
flying the plane.
I got mine through Pacific coast avionics.
Glen Matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Antenna for hand-held transceiver on panel |
Glen
I think I didn't quite understand your setup. Let me ask.
>
> I've got a permanently mounted socket / switch unit from iCom.
You mean a power socket, right?
> The panel
> mount radio and antenna coax are permanently mounted to it, and I have
a
> length of feedline for the handheld that terminates in a plug. If I
should
> need the handheld, all I do is plug it's feedline into the socket.
The
> panel mount is disconnected from the antenna, and the handheld is now
on
> line. Very neat and simple. No making or breaking of BNC connex
while
> flying the plane.
>
You say "no making or breaking of BNC connex while flying the plane",
but you said " the panel mount (radio) is disconnected from the
antenna". Is it something like Bob has in the Aeroelectric connection, a
panel mounted antenna plug, or am I missing something?
Carlos
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| Subject: | Re: Power and audio input jacks |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Brett Ferrell" <bferrell@123mail.net>
Thanks, but I was really looking for the audio jacks, for MP3 input in,
and/or cell-phone interfaces to my PMA8000. Thanks.
Brett
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Power and audio input jacks
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
> <nuckollsr@cox.net>
>
> Consider these parts also available from Radio Shack . . .
>
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Connectors/274-010.jpg
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Connectors/274-013.jpg
>
>
> and
>
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Connectors/hh_pwr.jpg
>
> Bob . . .
>
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| Subject: | Panasonic LC-RD1217P and Van's Battery Box Misfit |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Dale,
Sorry for the large file size on the pictures. I'm a bit
ignorant on how to reduce the size of the file by compressing it. I just
have a 4mp camera, shoot and download it in my saved pix file.
I just like to build and enjoy it as it removes the stresses of
the day. Especially any non standard mods like the battery box. I'm a
maintanence nut. The items I build must be easily repairable if possible
so things like the battery box mod become standard on my bird.
Jim Nelson
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| Subject: | Re: Antenna for hand-held transceiver on panel |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
On Jun 9, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Craig Payne wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Craig Payne"
> <craig@craigandjean.com>
> ...simplest design (and the one with the least RF loss) that I can
> think of
> would be a female BNC bulkhead connector which leads to the panel
> radio. The
> lead from the antenna would end in a short pigtail of coax with a
> male BNC
> connector. To switch radios you would move the pigtail from the BNC
> bulkhead
> to the BNC on the top of the hand-held. Note that to minimize
> losses the
> bulkhead connector would not be the type with a BNC female on both
> sides of
> the panel. Instead the side inside of the panel crimps directly on
> to the
> coax (Digikey ACX1032-ND, Amphenol 112505).
Don't worry about losses at 120MHz using multiple BNC connectors. You
won't be able to measure, let alone perceive, the loss. If it is more
convenient to terminate the coax in a male BNC and then use a dual-
female bulkhead 'barrel' connector, do so.
Case in point, I always put a pair of male BNC connectors with a
female barrel connector in-between in every coax to every radio,
usually someplace convenient to get to. That makes it easy to
temporarily insert test equipment in the line. The losses, even at
transponder, DME, and GPS frequencies, are inconsequential.
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak AT lloyd DOT com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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| Subject: | Re: Antenna for hand-held transceiver on panel |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
....." a permanently mounted socket / switch unit from iCom..........a
length of feedline for the handheld that terminates in a plug.
Glen Matejcek
Glen,
Is there a Icom part number for this socket/switch/feedline? Checked their
web site and found nothing like your description.
Dale Ensing
do not achieve
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| Subject: | Panasonic LC-RD1217P and Van's Battery Box Misfit |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
There are a couple of things you can do to control the size of your
pictures.
- If you know you are shooting an image for uploading dial down the image
size/resolution and maybe the "quality" (more compression).
- Start learning how to edit your pictures with a free image editor:
http://picasa.google.com/
http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
Or just Google on "free image editing"
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James H
Nelson
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 6:56 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Panasonic LC-RD1217P and Van's Battery Box
Misfit
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: James H Nelson
--> <rv9jim@juno.com>
Dale,
Sorry for the large file size on the pictures. I'm a bit ignorant
on how to reduce the size of the file by compressing it. I just have a 4mp
camera, shoot and download it in my saved pix file.
I just like to build and enjoy it as it removes the stresses of the
day. Especially any non standard mods like the battery box. I'm a
maintanence nut. The items I build must be easily repairable if possible so
things like the battery box mod become standard on my bird.
Jim Nelson
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
With the version of Microsoft Outlook that I am using (Outlook 2003), it
asks what size of photo I want to send. For example, I just tried a 2807kb
photo, and Outlook asks me if I want to send it as the original or resize it
to small (448 x 336), medium (640 x 480) or large (1024 x 768).
Terry
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Panasonic LC-RD1217P and Van's Battery Box
Misfit
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Craig Payne"
<craig@craigandjean.com>
There are a couple of things you can do to control the size of your
pictures.
- If you know you are shooting an image for uploading dial down the image
size/resolution and maybe the "quality" (more compression).
- Start learning how to edit your pictures with a free image editor:
http://picasa.google.com/
http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
Or just Google on "free image editing"
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: James H Nelson
--> <rv9jim@juno.com>
Dale,
Sorry for the large file size on the pictures. I'm a bit ignorant
on how to reduce the size of the file by compressing it. I just have a 4mp
camera, shoot and download it in my saved pix file.
I just like to build and enjoy it as it removes the stresses of the
day. Especially any non standard mods like the battery box. I'm a
maintanence nut. The items I build must be easily repairable if possible so
things like the battery box mod become standard on my bird.
Jim Nelson
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| Subject: | Generator/regulator test |
I have a C90 with a 12v generator and electro-mechanical regulator (Delco).
They do not seem to work Where can I acquire a test procedure for these?
Any help greatly appreciated. N7733
Curt Crosby
CCA, Inc
269 N. 2700 East Road
Pana, Il 62557
Ofc: 217-562-2618
Cell: 217-827-1517
Pager: 217-562-7719
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
>> With the version of Microsoft Outlook that I am using (Outlook 2003), it
asks what size of photo I want to send. For example, I just tried a 2807kb
photo, and Outlook asks me if I want to send it as the original or resize it
to small (448 x 336), medium (640 x 480) or large (1024 x 768).
Neat! I'm using Outlook 2003 too but it doesn't automatically prompt me. But
on the line where the attachments are shown there is a button labeled
"Attachment Options". Under there is a pull-down list labeled "Picture
options".
-- Craig
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| Subject: | one Main switch or 2 spst switches? Alt. field circuit |
breaker
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
Bob:
Your diagrams all show a 2-10 Main switch which is apparently hooked
up to give us OFF, Battery Only, and Battery+Alt field. I can see the
merits of this. But I happen to have a number of high quality, sealed,
mil spec. Cutler-Hammer SPST switches that I'm itching to use. Is there
any reason not to use one for the battery and one for the alt. field
coil instead of the 2-10?
This combination would allow having the alt. field ON while the battery
is OFF, which is likely to make the alternator unhappy, but is it
dangerous? I'm thinking that would come under the "don't do that"
heading, like so many other things about flying.
Also, you mention in chapter 10 of your book that you like to have a
circuit breaker on the alt. field rather than a fuse because of over
voltage situations, but you don't explain why it's actually handy to be
able to reset this one circuit.
Thanks,
--
Tom S.
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| Subject: | Ray Allen Trim Servo Wiring |
Can anyone shed some light on a question about the use of two Ray Allen
Company control stick grips with trim switches, two RAC relay decks, and
RAC servos for aileron and elevator trim? The RAC "Wire schematic" is
attached.
Do both sets of trim switches (the corresponding switches from grip 1
and grip 2) connect to the points labeled Switch 1, Switch3, Switch4,
and Switch2? To me the diagram doesn't make this clear.
Does anyone have a schematic diagram of a complete RAC trim system that
includes relay deck(s) and indicator(s)? The RAC documentation spreads
out the applicable information between the stick grip and the servo
manuals and it is more of a pictorial than a schematic diagram. I'd
particularly like to see what's inside the "relay deck".
Thanks,
Joe
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Joe Dubner K7JD | 523 Cedar Avenue | users.lewiston.com/hth/jd/
Long-EZ 821RP | Lewiston, ID 83501 | +1 208 305-2688
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| Subject: | Van's gauges power consumption |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I have a few of van's gauges and their associated senders. I don't see
in the info that came with them what the power consumption of these is.
Does any one know? I'm guesssing it's pretty small.
Thanks,
---
Tom S.
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| Subject: | Ray Allen Trim Servo Wiring |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
I'm not certain what is inside RAC's relay deck but this is how Infinity
says to wire their dual sticks with relays:
www.infinityaerospace.com/Flap2.pdf
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Power and audio input jacks |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> They are smaller than the traditional cigarette socket/plug (which is a
> good thing for our aircraft, no?), but they also have adapters so you
> can plug your cigarette lighter plug accessories into their power plugs
> and not have to wire one of their plugs onto the accessory and then not
> be able to use it elsewhere!
>
> They also have these that are all aluminum for $30:
I originally bought the "military style" (PSO-003) connectors,
but I ended up sending them back. I think they would be fine
on something like a dune buggy or snowmobile or sand rail,
but are severe overkill for the inside of a cockpit. The
screws tops are hard to get off and on, and the chain
tends to bunch up when you spin the cap.
I sent them back to Powerlet, and they gave me full credit,
and shipped the other model with the flip caps (PSO-001) to
me in Switzerland at their expense. That's what I meant when
I said they were good people to deal with!
These connectors are small, and there are *tons* of accessories
that use this type of connector in the motorcycle world. They
have a lot of the same types of requirements we do. As you
mentioned, there are adapters to the cigar lighter connector,
and a lot of other connectors.
http://www.powerletproducts.com/products/cables.php
I bought a cigar lighter adapter, and one for the SAE type
cable, which works perfectly with the battery tender.
BTW, I think I learned about these on either this list or
one of the other fine lists I try to read regularly.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Van's gauges power consumption |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Steve Allison <stevea@svpal.org>
sarg314 wrote:
> I have a few of van's gauges and their associated senders. I don't
> see in the info that came with them what the power consumption of
> these is. Does any one know? I'm guesssing it's pretty small.
>
> Thanks,
> ---
> Tom S.
Tom,
I measured one gage at 100 mA. (Don't remember which one it was.....and
I've made the assumption in my electrical system design they are all
about the same.) The light in the gage uses an additional 125 mA at
full intensity.
Steve
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I know about circuit breaker/switches that have the amperage stamped in the
ball on the end of the switch. I heard today about switches that have a
push-pull CB mounted below the switch in the same housing. Anyone have a
reference for these so I can research? For the few CB's that Bob
recommends, why would I want a separate CB and switch (whether in the same
housing or not) when I can get the switch/CB in one smaller package? I know
there's a price difference.
Rob Wright
RV-10 Wings
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| Subject: | Experimental IFR w/o a certified GPS or looking for |
a copy of RTCA/DO-229C
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
I recently read an article posted on Direct2. website
http://www.direct2avionics.com/pdfs/Using_GPS_for_IFR_flight.pd by a
Phd CFII that concludes that for EXPERIMENTAL aircraft, it was not
necessary for the aircraft to be equipped with a CERTIFIED GPS receiver
to legally file and fly IFR, PROVIDED that you, the pilot/mfg can
evaluate the GPS functionality, and find it provides all of the
necessary pilot input (as defined in the TSO) for IFR flight.
This sounded like it was worth looking into. I verified this opinion
with a competitor of Direct2. So off I go to study TSO-C146 the Standard
document for WAAS GPS, unfortunately there is nothing in the document
regarding functional requirements other than a reference to:
RTCA/DO-229B (which I learned has since been superceeded w/
RTCA/DO-229C). Another Google search reveals that this document is
available but with a cost which ranged from $108-370 per copy.
Does anyone know of a 'library' where this document could be 'rented' or
checked-out. a couple hundred bucks is a steep price for someone just
investigating an idea/thought.
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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