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1. 04:42 AM - Re: New battery option (Harley)
2. 05:17 AM - Re: Ruboff decals for panel lettering (Ernest Christley)
3. 05:25 AM - Re: Fuel Pump Switch(es) (Ernest Christley)
4. 07:41 AM - Re: Ruboff decals for panel lettering (Eric M. Jones)
5. 08:11 AM - Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody done this? (Eric M. Jones)
6. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody done this? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
7. 09:55 AM - Permanent Magnet vs. Series Wound... (Malcolm Thomson)
8. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: Ruboff decals for panel lettering (CH701)
9. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody done this? (Alan K. Adamson)
10. 01:56 PM - Ipod (MP3 player) Integration (James H Nelson)
11. 02:17 PM - Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
12. 03:03 PM - Re: New battery option (Kevin Horton)
13. 03:43 PM - How do you connect this thing? (N395V)
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| Subject: | Re: New battery option |
Kevin and others...
I'd be cautious of the battery from eBay that you mentioned,
Kevin...It's not an Odyssey.
http://tinyurl.com/sfwps is a Taiwan made rip off...number UB 16 CL-B
(an obvious replacement for the Yuasu battery)it's bigger, (height and
width), and according to the ad, it weighs 4 pounds LESS...wonder what
they left out? <G>.
May not be as desirable a replacement.
From their website: "Gruber Power Services also manufactures batteries
under the Gruber brand"
Harley Dixon
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Kevin Horton wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Lee" <bob@flyboybob.com>
>>
>> So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?
>
> There used to be several vendors who sold a lot of Odyssey batteries
> on eBay. I bought mine there for about $50, plus shipping. I did a
> search on PC625, and only found one vendor now, but he sells them for
> $47 + $13 shipping. Hard to beat that price.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/sfwps
>
> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
> Ottawa, Canada
> http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ruboff decals for panel lettering |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com>
Bill and Marsha wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill and Marsha"
> <docyukon@ptcnet.net>
>
> Whare do I start looking for a supplyer for custom made ruboff decal
> lettering for my panel? Bill S.
>
Start looking at Jim Weir's articles in Kitplanes. He details how to
use cheap inject printer paper to make lettering transfers.
As a synopsis:
Cheap. Store brand. Cheapest they have. Inject printer paper. It has
a coating that allows the ink to come off on the part.
Print a mirror image in a laser printer. My wife just bought a color
laser printer for her work, and most large companies have one or two
now, so if you want more than black it isn't hard.
Place the printout, letter down, on the part and give it a good rub down
with a hot iron. Laser printer toner is just a thermo-plastic (plastic
designed to be melted). The printing is now stuck to the part and the
paper.
Soak the part in warm, soapy water till the paper floats away.
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,|"|"|, Ernest Christley |
----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder |
o| d |o http://ernest.isa-geek.org |
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Pump Switch(es) |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com>
Kevin Horton wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> Barry's statement is true for most low wing light aircraft. Frank's
> aircraft has an unusual fuel system design that shouldn't have a
> problem in this scenario, as fuel pumps generally do a pretty poor
> job of pumping air. It would be good to do an actual test to
> demonstrate this mode of operation though, just in case there is a
> gotcha lurking.
I've heard some anecdotal evidence that says these pumps don't like
being run dry. The person's complaint was that he had a few die in a
couple different cars, and in each case it was soon after an incident of
running out of gas, even though the pump had given years of reliable
service. Seems reasonable considering that the fuel provides cooling
and lubrication. This is in no way to be construed as scientific
evidence, or a repeatable experiment, but I'd keep any such test very
short (for some undefined value of "very short").
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,|"|"|, Ernest Christley |
----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder |
o| d |o http://ernest.isa-geek.org |
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| Subject: | Re: Ruboff decals for panel lettering |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>
This question came up last year so this is a bit of a repost.
Google "Inkjet decals" for waterslide decal material. This allows you to use an
inkjet printer to make panel labels. A little experimenting will lead to professional
results. Overspray with Krylon art protector, etc. I have talked with
builders who are very satisfied with this technique.
This is a very "enabling " technology. You can put any kind of art onto almost
any solid material. A great many decal types and inks are available--UV fluorescent,
etc.
Someone asked about white ink, and I looked into it an found ALMOST none. Roland
makes the world's ONLY white inkjet ink. But the cheapest Roland inkjet printer
costs $22,000. I don't have any personal
experience (yet) and am not promoting it--just offering it and charging enough
to cover my costs. The ink is low viscosity. The Roland inkjet printer this is
used in uses standard inkjet technology, but the ink supply is MUCH larger. The
large cartridge used in the printer holds over 220 ml liter and costs about
$150 each. Additionally the white ink requires a little bit of heat to set up.
This can be a heatlamp or hairdryer.
My deal--the ink is $25 for 15 ml and I pay shipping. Contact me offlist if interested--emjones@charter.net
You'll have to get your own virgin (not recycled!) cartridge.
http://www.inksupply.com/ has them, but not for all printers. Remember that printers are almost free these days.
Let everybody know how this works out.
Teamwork: " A lot of people doing exactly what I say."
--(Marketing exec., Citrix Corp.)
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Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones@charter.net
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| Subject: | Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody done this? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>
AirGizmos makes nice stuff--
I do wonder if the rapid progress of Audio Visual products makes putting an Ipod
on your panel adviseable. Perhaps a USB socket is the only recognizeable part
that will be around in ten years. Plug in!
See these state-of-the-art guys-- http://www.trekstorusa.com/thumbdrive_music.htm $99
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve
to get it good and hard." -- H. L. Mencken
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Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones@charter.net
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| Subject: | Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody done |
this?
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hmm...I think an IPOD is not the ideal platform for playing music in an
airplane. I know lot of people do it successfully but the fact it has a
mechanical disc drive makes it a bit like a vacuum gyro Vs a solid state
EFIS.
Anyway, this device is a little small/slow...The real state of the art
solid state MP3 players are now over 1GB memory and feature USB 2.x
which I believe is a faster transfer rate than the USB 1.x
When SS MP# players get to about %GB then they will hold more songs than
you would ever need..Unless your CD collection looks like my Wife's...:)
Check THIS out....:)....
http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/t10/T10-2GB.aspx
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric
M. Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:10 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody
done this?
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones"
--> <emjones@charter.net>
AirGizmos makes nice stuff--
I do wonder if the rapid progress of Audio Visual products makes putting
an Ipod on your panel adviseable. Perhaps a USB socket is the only
recognizeable part that will be around in ten years. Plug in!
See these state-of-the-art guys--
http://www.trekstorusa.com/thumbdrive_music.htm $99
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and
deserve to get it good and hard." -- H. L. Mencken
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Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones@charter.net
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| Subject: | Permanent Magnet vs. Series Wound... |
I am considering purchasing a hydraulic power pack for a landing
application. The power pack comes in two type: Permanent Magnet and Series
wound. I notice the series wound take more current for the same psi. What
are the pros/cons of each type?
Thank you.
--
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| Subject: | Re: Ruboff decals for panel lettering |
Ink-Jet & Laser waterslide decal stock (8.5 x 11 sheets in clear or white)
is available from:
http://www.beldecal.com/model_decals.cfm
I've used it for all the decals on a pedal plane that I recently completed
(photo's attached) and was extremely pleased with the results.
Todd Henning
West Bend, WI
CH701
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| Subject: | Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody done |
this?
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Alan K. Adamson" <aadamson@highrf.com>
Only the full size Ipods are Hard disk based... If you really want something
little and *cool*, check out the new Ipod Shuffle, you'd loose it in the
airplane I'm sure...
Alan
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody
done this?
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George
--> (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hmm...I think an IPOD is not the ideal platform for playing music in an
airplane. I know lot of people do it successfully but the fact it has a
mechanical disc drive makes it a bit like a vacuum gyro Vs a solid state
EFIS.
Anyway, this device is a little small/slow...The real state of the art solid
state MP3 players are now over 1GB memory and feature USB 2.x which I
believe is a faster transfer rate than the USB 1.x
When SS MP# players get to about %GB then they will hold more songs than you
would ever need..Unless your CD collection looks like my Wife's...:)
Check THIS out....:)....
http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/t10/T10-2GB.aspx
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric M.
Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:10 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration- anybody done
this?
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones"
--> <emjones@charter.net>
AirGizmos makes nice stuff--
I do wonder if the rapid progress of Audio Visual products makes putting an
Ipod on your panel adviseable. Perhaps a USB socket is the only
recognizeable part that will be around in ten years. Plug in!
See these state-of-the-art guys--
http://www.trekstorusa.com/thumbdrive_music.htm $99
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and
deserve to get it good and hard." -- H. L. Mencken
--------
Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones@charter.net
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=68723#68723
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| Subject: | Ipod (MP3 player) Integration |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Eric,
How do you hook up a usb port to the typical "music" input cable
on our a/c intercom?
Jim Nelson
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| Subject: | Ipod (MP3 player) Integration |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
I think that's how you put music INTO the memory stick...I.e plug it
into your laptop and download...To get music out use the headphone jack.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
H Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Ipod (MP3 player) Integration
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: James H Nelson
--> <rv9jim@juno.com>
Eric,
How do you hook up a usb port to the typical "music" input cable
on our a/c intercom?
Jim Nelson
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| Subject: | Re: New battery option |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
Yeah, I should have looked more closely at that auction before I
posted it. The PC680 I bought a couple of years ago is definitely an
Odyssey, but the prices on eBay have really gone up since then. I
got mine for about $50, which was the going rate then. Now they are
selling for around $90.
Kevin
On 18 Oct 2006, at 07:40, Harley wrote:
> Kevin and others...
>
> I'd be cautious of the battery from eBay that you mentioned,
> Kevin...It's not an Odyssey.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/sfwps is a Taiwan made rip off...number UB 16 CL-
> B (an obvious replacement for the Yuasu battery)it's bigger,
> (height and width), and according to the ad, it weighs 4 pounds
> LESS...wonder what they left out? <G>.
>
> May not be as desirable a replacement.
>
> >From their website: "Gruber Power Services also manufactures
> batteries under the Gruber brand"
>
> Harley Dixon
>
>
> Kevin Horton wrote:
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
>> <khorton01@rogers.com>
>>
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Lee"
>> <bob@flyboybob.com>
>>>
>>> So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?
>>
>> There used to be several vendors who sold a lot of Odyssey
>> batteries on eBay. I bought mine there for about $50, plus
>> shipping. I did a search on PC625, and only found one vendor now,
>> but he sells them for $47 + $13 shipping. Hard to beat that price.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/sfwps
>>
>> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
>> Ottawa, Canada
>> http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | How do you connect this thing? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
I am assuming that +24V goes to the red terminal and ground to the black.
Does the red terminal put out the high voltage to the Mag?
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
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