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1. 03:50 AM - Re: Re: Another 60A alternator, internally regulated voltage regulator failure (Vern W.)
2. 05:51 AM - Re: Re: Another 60A alternator, internally regulated voltage regulator failure (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
3. 07:47 AM - Secure connection to a diode? (jonhults@speedband.com)
4. 08:52 AM - Re: Secure connection to a diode? (Glaeser, Dennis A)
5. 10:33 AM - WigWag and landing lights with one switch (Bill Boyd)
6. 11:18 AM - Re: WigWag and landing lights with one switch (Ed Holyoke)
7. 11:45 AM - Re: WigWag and landing lights with one switch (Bill Boyd)
8. 12:06 PM - Re: WigWag and landing lights with one switch (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
9. 12:31 PM - Re: Re: Secure connection to a diode? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 12:35 PM - Ratchet PIDG Crimper? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 12:41 PM - Audio Cable Sheilds ()
12. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: WigWag and landing lights with one switch (Bill Settle)
13. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: WigWag and landing lights with one switch (Bill Boyd)
14. 10:35 PM - Read if you are "Pro" Bob Nuckolls, even if you are not! ()
15. 10:53 PM - Re: Read if you are "Pro" Bob Nuckolls, even if you are not! (Joemotis@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Another 60A alternator, internally regulated |
voltage regulator failure
Just curious: Are you guys talking about the earlier Van's 60A alternators
or the newer ones from Van's that have the internal OV unit built in?
Vern
On 1/9/07, gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >From: "McFarland, Randy" <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com<http://us.f300.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=Randy.McFarland@novellus.com&YY=76944&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>
> >
>
> >Hmmm. My 60A alternator just failed after 15
> >hours. Mine had blast tubes for cooing on both
> >front and back openings.
> >Randy 7A San Jose, Ca
>
> Van suffered from a poor supplier for awhile. I talk
> to Tom Green and suggested new vendor's.
> It's not the ALTS issue, quality of new units are better.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another 60A alternator, internally regulated |
voltage regulator failure
for me, it must be the earlier one.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Vern W." <highflight1@gmail.com>
Just curious: Are you guys talking about the earlier Van's 60A alternators or the
newer ones from Van's that have the internal OV unit built in?
Vern
On 1/9/07, gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>From: "McFarland, Randy" < Randy.McFarland@novellus.com>
>Hmmm. My 60A alternator just failed after 15
>hours. Mine had blast tubes for cooing on both
>front and back openings.
>Randy 7A San Jose, Ca
Van suffered from a poor supplier for awhile. I talk
to Tom Green and suggested new vendor's.
It's not the ALTS issue, quality of new units are better.
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<DIV>for me, it must be the earlier one.</DIV>
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<DIV>Just curious: Are you guys talking about the earlier Van's 60A alternators
or the newer ones from Van's that have the internal OV unit built in?</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 1/9/07, <B class=gmail_sendername><A href="mailto:gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com">gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com</A></B> <<A href="mailto:gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com">gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV>>Hmmm. My 60A alternator just failed after 15 <BR>>hours.
Mine had blast tubes for cooing on both <BR>>front and back openings.<BR>>Randy
7A San Jose, Ca </DIV>
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<DIV>Van suffered from a poor supplier for awhile. I talk <BR>to Tom Green and suggested new
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| Subject: | Secure connection to a diode? |
Hi all,
I've got 3 individual diodes that have to be wired between micro switches
and pin connectors and the gear switch and valves with fast-ons, etc. How
do you connect the ends coming out of each side of the diode to 20 AWG wire?
Is there a connector out there for that? Two of the diodes have multiple
(2) connections on each end.
Needless to say.I'm a wiring newbie!
Thanks,
Jon Hults
Legacy N222BZ (still building)
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| Subject: | Re: Secure connection to a diode? |
When I have multiple wires at one Faston connection, I use the
appropriate (bigger) size and put both (or all 3) wires in the connector
and crimp them all together. B&C does that for the diodes they install
on their contactors, so I figured it must be OK. I think Bob even has a
cartoon on how to do that on his website.
If the pin connectors are big enough (i.e. Molex) you could do that as
well, but D-Sub size pins are too small - you'd have to join the wires
with a faston size splice with the multiple wires in one end and a
single wire (maybe doubled over) out to the pin.
If for some reason you want to be able to separate them, you can get
faston 'spiders' at the auto store that have 2 male tabs and one female.
That's a less-robust solution IMHO. I personally wouldn't go that route
on gear switches.
And if all else fails, there is always solder...
Dennis Glaeser
RV7A - wiring
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From: jonhults@speedband.com
Date: Thu Jan 11 - 7:47 AM
Hi all,
I've got 3 individual diodes that have to be wired between micro
switches
and pin connectors and the gear switch and valves with fast-ons, etc.
How
do you connect the ends coming out of each side of the diode to 20 AWG
wire?
Is there a connector out there for that? Two of the diodes have
multiple
(2) connections on each end.
Needless to say.I'm a wiring newbie!
Thanks,
Jon Hults
Legacy N222BZ (still building)
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| Subject: | WigWag and landing lights with one switch |
Bob: In all my years of flying, I've never really felt the need to
have just one landing (/taxi) light on at a time. (Maybe I'm just
different - my lights are used 100% for daytime see-and-avoid). I'm
wondering if, while it would mean giving up independent light
operation, one could impliment the wig-wag circuit of SSF-1 page 2.0
with only a single switch, a DPDT ON-OFF-ON of suitable rating. What
do you see as drawbacks?
-Bill Boyd
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| Subject: | WigWag and landing lights with one switch |
Bill,
I have experienced one drawback, a minor annoyance really. After
reducing power and landing at night, our alternator (40amp B&C) won't
keep the under voltage light from flashing while taxiing with position,
strobe and landing lights lit. If I do night currency, (3 full stop
trips with taxi back), the low volt light flashes on final - very
distracting. When this occurs, I usually pull the low volt breaker to
shut it up. This is one of the few places where having a pullable
breaker is worthwhile in my opinion. I'm considering replacing the
landing light switch with one that would allow me to choose to light one
side only or both, and see if that makes a difference.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Boyd
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: WigWag and landing lights with one switch
<sportav8r@gmail.com>
Bob: In all my years of flying, I've never really felt the need to
have just one landing (/taxi) light on at a time. (Maybe I'm just
different - my lights are used 100% for daytime see-and-avoid). I'm
wondering if, while it would mean giving up independent light
operation, one could impliment the wig-wag circuit of SSF-1 page 2.0
with only a single switch, a DPDT ON-OFF-ON of suitable rating. What
do you see as drawbacks?
-Bill Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: WigWag and landing lights with one switch |
Good thought, Ed, and I encountered the same annoyance with Van's 35
amp alternator and its suspected bad diodes, but with my 55 amp
upgrade, not seen even at idle with all lights on- puts out 14.4v at
even the lower rpm's. I think I'm golden on that score.
-Bill
On 1/11/07, Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I have experienced one drawback, a minor annoyance really. After
> reducing power and landing at night, our alternator (40amp B&C) won't
> keep the under voltage light from flashing while taxiing with position,
> strobe and landing lights lit. If I do night currency, (3 full stop
> trips with taxi back), the low volt light flashes on final - very
> distracting. When this occurs, I usually pull the low volt breaker to
> shut it up. This is one of the few places where having a pullable
> breaker is worthwhile in my opinion. I'm considering replacing the
> landing light switch with one that would allow me to choose to light one
> side only or both, and see if that makes a difference.
>
> Pax,
>
> Ed Holyoke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Boyd
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:27 AM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: WigWag and landing lights with one switch
>
> <sportav8r@gmail.com>
>
> Bob: In all my years of flying, I've never really felt the need to
> have just one landing (/taxi) light on at a time. (Maybe I'm just
> different - my lights are used 100% for daytime see-and-avoid). I'm
> wondering if, while it would mean giving up independent light
> operation, one could impliment the wig-wag circuit of SSF-1 page 2.0
> with only a single switch, a DPDT ON-OFF-ON of suitable rating. What
> do you see as drawbacks?
>
> -Bill Boyd
>
>
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| Subject: | WigWag and landing lights with one switch |
That how my RV7a is wired and it works great....My up is wig-wag, middle
is off and down is both lights on full.
Wig-wagging landing lights are many more time isible than just lights on
steady all the time in my experience.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Boyd
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: WigWag and landing lights with one switch
--> <sportav8r@gmail.com>
Bob: In all my years of flying, I've never really felt the need to have
just one landing (/taxi) light on at a time. (Maybe I'm just different
- my lights are used 100% for daytime see-and-avoid). I'm wondering if,
while it would mean giving up independent light operation, one could
impliment the wig-wag circuit of SSF-1 page 2.0 with only a single
switch, a DPDT ON-OFF-ON of suitable rating. What do you see as
drawbacks?
-Bill Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Secure connection to a diode? |
At 11:50 AM 1/11/2007 -0500, you wrote:
><dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
>
>When I have multiple wires at one Faston connection, I use the
>appropriate (bigger) size and put both (or all 3) wires in the connector
>and crimp them all together. B&C does that for the diodes they install
>on their contactors, so I figured it must be OK. I think Bob even has a
>cartoon on how to do that on his website.
Yes. See . . .
http://aircraftspruce.com/
>If the pin connectors are big enough (i.e. Molex) you could do that as
>well, but D-Sub size pins are too small - you'd have to join the wires
>with a faston size splice with the multiple wires in one end and a
>single wire (maybe doubled over) out to the pin.
I've not had very good luck with multiple wires into
anything except the old MS3100 series solder-pot connectors.
Crimping multiple wires into connector pins is problematic.
>I've got 3 individual diodes that have to be wired between micro
>switches and pin connectors and the gear switch and valves with
>fast-ons, etc.
>How do you connect the ends coming out of each side of the diode
>to 20 AWG wire? Is there a connector out there for that? Two
>of the diodes have multiple (2) connections on each end.
>
>Needless to say.I'm a wiring newbie!
Jon it's not clear from your text as to the exact
nature of your task. Can you scan a sketch of the wiring
diagram and attach it to a reply? I 'think' I know
what you're dealing with but a schematic would help
me be more specific and useful.
Bob . . .
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< What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
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| Subject: | Ratchet PIDG Crimper? |
Bob:
Several messages posted on the canard-aviators news group mentioned buying
a racheting crimper from you. However, I cannot find one on the
AeroElectric Connection web site. Do you sell the crimpers? If so, how can
I order one?
I sold that business to B&C a number of years ago.
You can find the crimper I sold on their website at
http://bandc.biz
If you have a Harbor Freight close by, you can get this
tool at:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93977
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< What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
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| Subject: | Audio Cable Sheilds |
Bob,
I have an audio panel with three(3) non-switched audio inputs and five (5) devices
that will have to share these inputs. I selected the solo device as it is
the most important device of the group. The other four naturally group into
one each with voice and one tone only. All have volume control
If I am not mistaken I will need resistors in the leads from each of the four devices
that share inputs. I plan on loading the four resistors into a D-sub connector
to facilitate easily changing them if the original selction is not correct.
If this is correct then I have a sheilding question.
Is it good practice to to ground the sheilds at each device and terminate but not
attach at the D-sub and then do the same thing with the leads into the audio
panel? This looks to me to not violate the single ended sheils requirement
and it also protects all the wire except the D-sub.
Is there an easier/better way?
Thanks in advance. Don
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| Subject: | Re: WigWag and landing lights with one switch |
Bill,
What alternator are you using?
Bill Settle
Winston-Salem, NC
RV-8 Wings
>
> From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> Date: 2007/01/11 Thu PM 02:44:13 EST
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: WigWag and landing lights with one switch
>
>
> Good thought, Ed, and I encountered the same annoyance with Van's 35
> amp alternator and its suspected bad diodes, but with my 55 amp
> upgrade, not seen even at idle with all lights on- puts out 14.4v at
> even the lower rpm's. I think I'm golden on that score.
>
> -Bill
>
> On 1/11/07, Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > I have experienced one drawback, a minor annoyance really. After
> > reducing power and landing at night, our alternator (40amp B&C) won't
> > keep the under voltage light from flashing while taxiing with position,
> > strobe and landing lights lit. If I do night currency, (3 full stop
> > trips with taxi back), the low volt light flashes on final - very
> > distracting. When this occurs, I usually pull the low volt breaker to
> > shut it up. This is one of the few places where having a pullable
> > breaker is worthwhile in my opinion. I'm considering replacing the
> > landing light switch with one that would allow me to choose to light one
> > side only or both, and see if that makes a difference.
> >
> > Pax,
> >
> > Ed Holyoke
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> > Boyd
> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:27 AM
> > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: AeroElectric-List: WigWag and landing lights with one switch
> >
> > <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> >
> > Bob: In all my years of flying, I've never really felt the need to
> > have just one landing (/taxi) light on at a time. (Maybe I'm just
> > different - my lights are used 100% for daytime see-and-avoid). I'm
> > wondering if, while it would mean giving up independent light
> > operation, one could impliment the wig-wag circuit of SSF-1 page 2.0
> > with only a single switch, a DPDT ON-OFF-ON of suitable rating. What
> > do you see as drawbacks?
> >
> > -Bill Boyd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: WigWag and landing lights with one switch |
I was afraid somebody'd ask me that. It's a ND-type 55 A machine that
goes on a Geo Metro, I think. The paperwork is all in the hangar, but
I will make a point of recording the part # next time the cowl is off.
It's IR, and I'm currently running it with no OVP.
-Bill
On 1/11/07, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> What alternator are you using?
>
> Bill Settle
> Winston-Salem, NC
> RV-8 Wings
>
>
> >
> > From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> > Date: 2007/01/11 Thu PM 02:44:13 EST
> > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: WigWag and landing lights with one switch
> >
> >
> > Good thought, Ed, and I encountered the same annoyance with Van's 35
> > amp alternator and its suspected bad diodes, but with my 55 amp
> > upgrade, not seen even at idle with all lights on- puts out 14.4v at
> > even the lower rpm's. I think I'm golden on that score.
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> > On 1/11/07, Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > I have experienced one drawback, a minor annoyance really. After
> > > reducing power and landing at night, our alternator (40amp B&C) won't
> > > keep the under voltage light from flashing while taxiing with position,
> > > strobe and landing lights lit. If I do night currency, (3 full stop
> > > trips with taxi back), the low volt light flashes on final - very
> > > distracting. When this occurs, I usually pull the low volt breaker to
> > > shut it up. This is one of the few places where having a pullable
> > > breaker is worthwhile in my opinion. I'm considering replacing the
> > > landing light switch with one that would allow me to choose to light one
> > > side only or both, and see if that makes a difference.
> > >
> > > Pax,
> > >
> > > Ed Holyoke
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> > > Boyd
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:27 AM
> > > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: AeroElectric-List: WigWag and landing lights with one switch
> > >
> > > <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Bob: In all my years of flying, I've never really felt the need to
> > > have just one landing (/taxi) light on at a time. (Maybe I'm just
> > > different - my lights are used 100% for daytime see-and-avoid). I'm
> > > wondering if, while it would mean giving up independent light
> > > operation, one could impliment the wig-wag circuit of SSF-1 page 2.0
> > > with only a single switch, a DPDT ON-OFF-ON of suitable rating. What
> > > do you see as drawbacks?
> > >
> > > -Bill Boyd
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Read if you are "Pro" Bob Nuckolls, even if you are |
not!
Please check out this special website:
www.bob.nuckolls.youaremighty.com
Sincerely
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Read if you are "Pro" Bob Nuckolls, even if you |
are not!
Bob Nuckolls is my God, Period
J.D. Motis
I.B.E.W. for decades
Ex U.S. Army 68F20/ 68F30
My Dad knew Kelly Johnson personally
I had "unserviceable" Lockheed aircraft toggle switches (3 of them) screwed
to my hi-chair
Come on back, RocketRod
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