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     1. 02:36 AM - Re: best contactor reliability -- mechanical, solid,state, or manual? (D Wysong)
     2. 05:19 AM - Re: KMD 150 Install manual needed (N395V)
     3. 07:39 AM - Re: Flap switch (Eric M. Jones)
     4. 08:21 AM - Re: Re: GTX327 power switching (Michel Creek)
     5. 09:05 AM - Re: Figure z-19 (PSILeD@aol.com)
     6. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: GTX327 power switching (Peter Pengilly)
     7. 09:57 AM - Re: Low transmit volume on Valcom 760 (privatepilot03)
     8. 11:26 AM - Re: Plane-Power (David E. Nelson)
     9. 11:34 AM - Re: Figure z-19 (Ernest Christley)
    10. 02:06 PM - Re: Re: Belly antenna (Merlin)
    11. 02:11 PM - Re: Flap switch (Merlin)
    12. 03:12 PM - Re: Flap switch (Dale Fultz)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: best contactor reliability -- mechanical, solid,state, | 
      or manual?
      
      
      The system is 25 ADC (worst case) at 28 VDC with a nominal 
      load of about 17 ADC.
      
      The spec environment (vibe, temp) is similar to the Summer 
      cockpit of my C150 with a prop that needs to be dynamically 
      balanced.  Worse than a lab bench but better than under the 
      hood of a Hummer.  All components are rated for -40 C to +85 
      C (operating) thus far.
      
      Unfortunately, there are no "non-critical" components in the 
      system so ANY power loss is bad news.
      
      Again, I'm trying to weigh the pros/cons of mechanical, 
      solid-state, or manual master battery contactors for this 
      application.  I considered using parallel contactors (as 
      suggested here) to avoid the single point contactor failure 
      but found myself staring down the slippery slope of 
      increased parts count and complexity.
      
      Perhaps the "best" answer is a manual contactor with dual 
      contacts (one of those big 1/2/Both switches).  ???
      
      Any guidance (including "shut up, quit worrying, and use the 
      darn can!") will be appreciated.  :-)
      
      D
      
      
      --------------------
      >>> I have a remotely operated application where the loss of the master
      >>> battery contactor will result in the loss of data/money/time (...
      >>> and dignity!).  My baseline design resembles a "Z" diagram (thanks
      >>> Bob!) and I planned to use a mechanical, continuous duty contactor
      >>> like the S-701 from B&C.  However, a buddy of mine recently
      >>> experienced a contactor failure in flight and it caused me to
      >>> experience a few "What If!?" nightmares.  I'm back to reconsidering
      >>> my original decision...
      > 
      >    Help us with a bit more information about your application.
      >    What kind of vehicle? What kind of environment? What's the
      >    energy requirement to maintain data in vulnerable systems.
      >    It's often much easier to arrange for brownout and/or momentary
      >    power loss for a few items than to back-up the whole system.
      >    Finally, it's almost always better to have a plan-a/plan-b
      >    modus operandi than to scratch around for "more reliable"
      >    hardware. EVERYTHING will break at some point in time.
      > 
      >    Give us a rundown of your equipment that must stay awake
      >    and what the power requirements are.
      > 
      >    Bob . . .
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: KMD 150 Install manual needed | 
      
      
      
      --------
      Milt
      2003 F1 Rocket
      2006 Radial Rocket
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124315#124315
      
      
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      I think what you need is what I sell lots of--the True Servo Conversion for MAC/RACs.
      TSCMR. This is a teeny module that converts the external position signal
      that you get from a voltage divider potentiometer or even a bank of push buttons
      to control a MAC or RAC trim box.
      
      See:    http://tinyurl.com/2qo222
      
      These are the parts they left out of the trim box that would have made it a servo.
      This also solves the problem of how to connect all those tiny trim box wires.
      
      --------
      Eric M. Jones
      www.PerihelionDesign.com
      113 Brentwood Drive
      Southbridge, MA 01550
      (508) 764-2072
      emjones@charter.net
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124343#124343
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: GTX327 power switching | 
      
      
      Found out my problem was low input power voltage below 10.  With proper
      voltage, everything works fine.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
      Creek
      Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:22 PM
      Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: GTX327 power switching
      
      <mwcreek@frontiernet.net>
      
      I'm having the same problem as Sam as detailed in his email below.  Does
      anyone have a solution to this?  I've tried adjusting contrast/brightness
      with no affect.
      
      Thanks,
      Mike Creek
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of phd1993
      Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:59 PM
      Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: GTX327 power switching
      
      
      I have been bench/panel testing my GTX327 during cable assembly prior to
      final installation in my panel and I can confirm the Pin 1 / Pin 15
      configurations.
      
      Now my question - if I have power supplied via Pin 15 and ground on Pin 25
      WITHOUT connecting either the transponder antenna or the altitude encoder
      what should the GTX327 display at power on?  How about power on while
      holding down the FUNC button.  All I am getting is the "backpanel"
      illuminated with no other display items.  Is this proper?  Or do I need to
      connect either the antenna, the altitude encoder, or both before I start
      seeing any items displayed on the panel?
      
      Feedback appreciated.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Sam H.
      Zenith 701 kit
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74927#74927
      
      
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      Ernest,
      
      Attached is a dxf file of the original Z19. If you want the rear battery  
      option let me know and I will send it to you.
      
      Paul LeDoux
      Sharpsburg, Ga.
      RV-8 in progress
      
      
      ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at 
      http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
      
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| Subject:  | Re: GTX327 power switching | 
      
      
      Guys,
      
      I made myself a 12v power supply for the garage/hangar from an old
      computer power supply to get over the problem of low voltage problems.
      Needs some internal surgery to install an on-off switch (5 mins on
      Google provided the answer as most power supplies now switch off on a
      signal from the mother board). Runs for ever, stabilized voltage (that I
      believe can be tweaked up to 13 or 14v, but I haven't found out how) and
      can deliver up to about 20A. Means that I don't have to charge a battery
      all the time and I can buy a fresh PC680 just before I'm ready to go
      flying. 
      
      Peter
      RV-6A, DR-107 & RV-7 (building)
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Michel Creek
      Sent: 17 July 2007 16:14
      Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: GTX327 power switching
      
      <mwcreek@frontiernet.net>
      
      Found out my problem was low input power voltage below 10.  With proper
      voltage, everything works fine.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Michel
      Creek
      Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:22 PM
      Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: GTX327 power switching
      
      <mwcreek@frontiernet.net>
      
      I'm having the same problem as Sam as detailed in his email below.  Does
      anyone have a solution to this?  I've tried adjusting
      contrast/brightness
      with no affect.
      
      Thanks,
      Mike Creek
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      phd1993
      Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:59 PM
      Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: GTX327 power switching
      
      <samhutcheson@kc.rr.com>
      
      I have been bench/panel testing my GTX327 during cable assembly prior to
      final installation in my panel and I can confirm the Pin 1 / Pin 15
      configurations.
      
      Now my question - if I have power supplied via Pin 15 and ground on Pin
      25
      WITHOUT connecting either the transponder antenna or the altitude
      encoder
      what should the GTX327 display at power on?  How about power on while
      holding down the FUNC button.  All I am getting is the "backpanel"
      illuminated with no other display items.  Is this proper?  Or do I need
      to
      connect either the antenna, the altitude encoder, or both before I start
      seeing any items displayed on the panel?
      
      Feedback appreciated.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Sam H.
      Zenith 701 kit
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74927#74927
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Low transmit volume on Valcom 760 | 
      
      
      I couldn't sign up to the forums with my avidflyerss screen name for some reason,
      so I created this one.
      
      Anyway, I tried adjusting the gains on both the radio and headset with little if
      any improvement.
      
      At this point, I'm leaving everything as is until I get the plane done and actually
      try it at the airport and in the air.  Maybe it's fine, I don't know, but
      it sure seems quiet to me.
      
      Thanks
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124381#124381
      
      
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      Hi Bob,
      
      Thank you for the followup and everything you do here on the list.
      
      Regards,
       	 /\/elson
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
      
      > <nuckollsr@cox.net>
      >
      > At 01:36 PM 7/12/2007 -0500, you wrote:
      >
      >> <david.nelson@pobox.com>
      >> 
      >> 
      >> Hi Bob,
      >> 
      >> I was just curious if you had had any time to explore any of Plane-Power's 
      >> internally regulated alternators on that fancy alternator stand?
      >> 
      >> Thanks,
      >
      > No. My duties with an ageing father in Medicine Lodge, putting
      > down new hardwood floors on my house and needs of my
      > new clients (out of town 4 days last week and 3 days next
      > week) have push my drive-stand project back into the corner.
      >
      > Actually, I have no particular plans to test Plane-Power's
      > products. They are wired exactly the same architecture
      > and alternator control philosophy that you would get if
      > if you did a B&C LR-3 installation on an externally
      > regulated alternator . . . or figure Z-11 from the book.
      >
      > I intend to explore the energy questions on alternators
      > in general with a goal of achieving positive on/off, any time,
      > any conditions control of an internally regulated alternator
      > that is NOT modified per the Plane Power manufacturing
      > philosophy. I.e. off the shelf automotive.
      >
      > I can deduce no reason to be skeptical of Plane Power's
      > product performance claims.
      >
      > Bob . . .
      >
      >
      
      -- 
      ~~ ** ~~ Research has shown that Mondays account for 1/7th of your time ~~ ** ~~
      
      
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      PSILeD@aol.com wrote:
      > Ernest,
      >  
      > Attached is a dxf file of the original Z19. If you want the rear 
      > battery option let me know and I will send it to you.
      >  
      > Paul LeDoux
      > Sharpsburg, Ga.
      > RV-8 in progress
      >
      >
      > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com 
      > <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982>.
      
      I'm good now (heh, just my opinion). 
      
      I've been able to load the file into QCad and do some editing.  I also 
      found dwg2dxf.  There was only an RPM, but I used alien to convert it to 
      a deb file (Linux file installation formats).  "dpkg -i" installed the 
      deb without any other arguments.  So I'm cooking with gas now.  Thanks, 
      guys.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Belly antenna | 
      
      
      Thanks for your replies :-)
      
      Phil 
      
      Do not archive
      
      -----Message d'origine-----
      De : owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de jetboy
      Envoy : lundi 16 juillet 2007 0:31
       : aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
      Objet : AeroElectric-List: Re: Belly antenna
      
      
      Bent or sloping whip makes virtually no difference. The ground plane is
      still flat, the magnetic component of the radiated field is caused by
      current flow, most of which occurs in the first third of the whip, so this
      portion is the area to leave straight. 
      
      Ralph
      
      --------
      Ralph - CH701 / 2200a
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123983#123983
      
      
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      I'm going to use Aeroelectric suggestion :-) The problem is finding the
      switch. The type of the one received with the Van's kit is as hard to toggle
      as a contactor !
      The genuine Cessna switch is awfully expensive !!! 
      
      Philippe
      
      -----Message d'origine-----
      De : owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Dale
      Fultz
      Envoy : lundi 16 juillet 2007 15:47
       : aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
      Objet : AeroElectric-List: Flap switch
      
      --> <dfultz7@earthlink.net>
      
      Can a Cessna flap switch be used instead of the Ray Allan switch for a trim
      servo??? If so does someone have a wiring diagram??  Thanks Dale
      -----  
      
      
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      I have a genuine Cessna   150  switch. I just need to find out if it can be 
      wired into the system instead of using the supplied switch from Ray Allen 
      that was with the servo..
      ----- Original Message -----  
      
      
 
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