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1. 06:35 AM - Re: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh (Harold Kovac)
2. 07:00 AM - Re: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh (Ralph E. Capen)
3. 07:24 AM - Re: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh (Bruce Gray)
4. 12:48 PM - Re: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? ()
5. 01:07 PM - Re: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? (jdalton77)
6. 02:49 PM - Re: S700 2-50 switch wiring (Frank Stringham)
7. 04:40 PM - Vacuume pressure warning light (Michael Hinchcliff)
8. 05:11 PM - Re: Vacuume pressure warning light (Richard Dudley)
9. 05:53 PM - Re: Vacuume pressure warning light (rd2@evenlink.com)
10. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: S700 2-50 switch wiring (Dale Ensing)
11. 07:47 PM - Re: Re: S700 2-50 switch wiring (Michael T. Ice)
12. 08:19 PM - wiring the 2-50 switch (glaesers)
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| Subject: | Re: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh |
Luved it
Harold
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb@tds.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:50 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh
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> Bret Smith
> RV-9A (91314)
> Mineral Bluff, GA
> www.FlightInnovations.com
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| Subject: | Re: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh |
What was it?
-----Original Message-----
>From: Harold Kovac <kayce33@embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 27, 2007 9:31 AM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh
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>Luved it
>Harold
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb@tds.net>
>To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:50 PM
>Subject: AeroElectric-List: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh
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>> Bret Smith
>> RV-9A (91314)
>> Mineral Bluff, GA
>> www.FlightInnovations.com
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| Subject: | The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh |
A green t-shirt with block letters that said, "I am NOT gmcjetpilot".
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E.
Capen
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh
<recapen@earthlink.net>
What was it?
-----Original Message-----
>From: Harold Kovac <kayce33@embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 27, 2007 9:31 AM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh
>
<kayce33@embarqmail.com>
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>Luved it
>Harold
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb@tds.net>
>To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:50 PM
>Subject: AeroElectric-List: The hottest T-shirt at Oshkosh
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>> Bret Smith
>> RV-9A (91314)
>> Mineral Bluff, GA
>> www.FlightInnovations.com
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| Subject: | Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? |
Jeff,
I am considering the same. After seeing their comparison to the 496, it
really appears to have advantages. I am especially interested in the
approaches and how well it does when compared to a certified 430W/530W.
I like the fact that it posts the elevation in the approach you are
supposed to be at. Yes, the wind/fuel mileage thing also looks very
useful. I believe it also has popup for fuel prices. This unit seems
particularly useful as an IFR backup.
When comparing all of the others, they all seem to have shortcomings
over the Cheetah. I may try the optional floor mount to see how that
works.
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jdalton77
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:38 PM
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS?
Ed,
I just started using one of those about two weeks ago.
I was interested in it because of it's size and cost as compared
to the 496. It has all of the functionality of the Garmin and then some
on a 9" screen (about 3X the size of the 496).
I am hooked on the XM weather, and a unique feature that
calculates the best altutide for fuel burn and time.
So far it's worked as advertised and I'm anxious to see their
Hi-way in the Sky module.
Two things about it I don't like so much. First, it's big (I
know, I know) and I'm having trouble finding a good place in the cockpit
for it (mine has a suction cup mount), and the other is the wires. I
spent some time routing them out of sight, but there are two from the
unit (power and USB) and then all the plugs, hub, XM antennas and GPs
antennas. That's no different than the Garmin though (if you use an
external antenna).
One other thing - as a portable unit it's OK with me that it has
a Windows XP interface (it's nice with wireless in an FBO for checking
eMail) but I have concerns about Windows and stability . . . . . nothing
serious yet though.
Jeff Dalton
Wings
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson <mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
To: avionics-list@matronics.com ; RV-List
<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS?
Does anyone on the list have any personal experience
with owning/using the Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? If so, what is your
general overall impression and would you recommend it.
Thanks
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://www.
m
atronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? |
MessageGlenn,
I couldn't find a place for the floor mount in my Cherokee so I went
with the suction.
The approaches work well - you can't "fly" the ILS like some units, but
it does offer you complete guidance. One feature I like (it's not huge)
is the extended runway center lines on the screen that make it really
easy to find and line up with the active runway.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: longg@pjm.com
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS?
Jeff,
I am considering the same. After seeing their comparison to the 496,
it really appears to have advantages. I am especially interested in the
approaches and how well it does when compared to a certified 430W/530W.
I like the fact that it posts the elevation in the approach you are
supposed to be at. Yes, the wind/fuel mileage thing also looks very
useful. I believe it also has popup for fuel prices. This unit seems
particularly useful as an IFR backup.
When comparing all of the others, they all seem to have shortcomings
over the Cheetah. I may try the optional floor mount to see how that
works.
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jdalton77
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:38 PM
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS?
Ed,
I just started using one of those about two weeks ago.
I was interested in it because of it's size and cost as compared to
the 496. It has all of the functionality of the Garmin and then some on
a 9" screen (about 3X the size of the 496).
I am hooked on the XM weather, and a unique feature that calculates
the best altutide for fuel burn and time.
So far it's worked as advertised and I'm anxious to see their Hi-way
in the Sky module.
Two things about it I don't like so much. First, it's big (I know,
I know) and I'm having trouble finding a good place in the cockpit for
it (mine has a suction cup mount), and the other is the wires. I spent
some time routing them out of sight, but there are two from the unit
(power and USB) and then all the plugs, hub, XM antennas and GPs
antennas. That's no different than the Garmin though (if you use an
external antenna).
One other thing - as a portable unit it's OK with me that it has a
Windows XP interface (it's nice with wireless in an FBO for checking
eMail) but I have concerns about Windows and stability . . . . . nothing
serious yet though.
Jeff Dalton
Wings
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
To: avionics-list@matronics.com ; RV-List
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS?
Does anyone on the list have any personal experience with
owning/using the Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? If so, what is your general
overall impression and would you recommend it.
Thanks
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://www.
matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://www.
matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: S700 2-50 switch wiring |
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
I am using an S700 2-50 switch to activate my fuel pump. So far I have been
unable to brake the code. I have so far used multiple schemes .......I can
get it to work to this point....toggle down OFF.....toogle mid position
(on)......toggle up notta?????????????...for the momentary on. Right now I
have #2 to power bus, #5 to ground, #1 to pump motor...red, #6 to pump
motor....black , and #3 to #6.
Thanks for any and all suggestions.
Frank @ SGU RV7A Panel Complete except for HS34....Wiring underway
_________________________________________________________________
http://newlivehotmail.com
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| Subject: | Vacuume pressure warning light |
My VistaPrint Electronic Business CardI would like to add a vacuum
pressure warning light to my ship's panel. What do you guys recommend?
Is there a particular vacuum pressure switch that I can connect to my
vac line that will illuminate a panel lamp in the event the vacuum
pressure slides to an unsafe level - or is there another (better) way to
do this?
Michael H.
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| Subject: | Re: Vacuume pressure warning light |
Michael,
I purchased a vacuum switch from Precise Flight, Inc several years ago.
I just looked at their website and could not find that switch. You might
contact them to see if they still sell the switch. It was part of a
vacuum backup system that used manifold pressure. But they sold the
switch separately. They may have discontinued it because of the move
toward all electrical panels.
Regards,
Richard Dudley
RV-6A flying
Michael Hinchcliff wrote:
> I would like to add a vacuum pressure warning light to my ship's
> panel. What do you guys recommend? Is there a particular
> vacuum pressure switch that I can connect to my vac line that will
> illuminate a panel lamp in the event the vacuum pressure slides to
> an unsafe level - or is there another (better) way to do this?
>
> Michael H.
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| Subject: | Re: Vacuume pressure warning light |
Michael-
This switch, along with a blinking LED, should work fine:
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID 05081210041966&item=11-2344&catn
ame
The chamber is SS.
The problem is, it would need a field approval for certified aircraft - and
local FSDO's may not be very sympathetic to messing with the vac system.
I'd like to get my hnads on such a field approval for my own installation.
Anyone?
Best
Rumen
_____________________Original message __________________________
(received from Michael Hinchcliff; Date: 06:32 PM
7/27/2007 -0500)
________________________________________________________________
I would like to add a vacuum pressure warning light to my ship's panel.
What do you guys recommend? Is there a particular vacuum pressure switch
that I can connect to my vac line that will illuminate a panel lamp in the
event the vacuum pressure slides to an unsafe level - or is there another
(better) way to do this?
Michael H.
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| Subject: | Re: S700 2-50 switch wiring |
Frank,
Are you trying to control another device besides the pump with the switch?
Like a primer with the momentary on?
If so try this:
2 to power buss
5 to aircraft ground
1 to pump motor red
5 to pump motor black
1 to momentary contact device positive
4 to momentary contact device ground
This would keep the pump on while the primer is momentarily energized. ( by
switching the power buss lead of the pump and the ground lead of the primer)
Dale Ensing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 5:43 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: S700 2-50 switch wiring
> <fstringham@hotmail.com>
>
>
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I am using an S700 2-50 switch to activate my fuel pump. So far I have
> been unable to brake the code. I have so far used multiple schemes
> .......I can get it to work to this point....toggle down OFF.....toogle
> mid position (on)......toggle up notta?????????????...for the momentary
> on. Right now I have #2 to power bus, #5 to ground, #1 to pump
> motor...red, #6 to pump motor....black , and #3 to #6.
>
> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>
> Frank @ SGU RV7A Panel Complete except for HS34....Wiring underway
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> http://newlivehotmail.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: S700 2-50 switch wiring |
Frank,
On the Z-11 drawing it shows that the power from the main bus goes to #5
with a jumper to #2. Why do you have a ground on #5? The grounds go on the
other side of the fuel pumps and it shows both of them grounded to the
panel. It seems to me that the way you describe it you have the switch
shorted out.
I am not an electrical genius just another guy wiring up an RV so I hope you
get some other suggestions.
Mike Ice
Fire wall forward, rewiring the mag switches for emag/pmag, adding
accessories to the motor.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: S700 2-50 switch wiring
> <fstringham@hotmail.com>
>
>
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I am using an S700 2-50 switch to activate my fuel pump. So far I have
> been unable to brake the code. I have so far used multiple schemes
> .......I can get it to work to this point....toggle down OFF.....toogle
> mid position (on)......toggle up notta?????????????...for the momentary
> on. Right now I have #2 to power bus, #5 to ground, #1 to pump
> motor...red, #6 to pump motor....black , and #3 to #6.
>
> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>
> Frank @ SGU RV7A Panel Complete except for HS34....Wiring underway
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> http://newlivehotmail.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | wiring the 2-50 switch |
Frank,
If you have the AeroElectric Connection manual - see page 11-18.
Looking at the back of the 2-50 switch, with the keyway UP, the contact
numbers are:
6 - 3
5 - 2 -- power IN to contacts 2 and 5 - each side is independent (4-5-6
independent of 1-2-3)
4 - 1
When the switch is in the DOWN position (opposite the keyway):
- contacts 5 and 6 are connected
- contacts 2 and 3 are connected
When the switch is in the MIDDLE position:
- contacts 5 and 6 are still connected
- contacts 2 and 1 are connected (no power to 3)
In the UP (momentary position):
- contacts 5 and 4 are connected (no power to 6) - so the 5-4 combination
is the only one that is 'momentary'
- contacts 2 and 1 are connected (no power to 3)
Hope this helps.
Dennis Glaeser
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