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1. 05:17 AM - Re: D-Sub Pin Extraction (Eric Newton)
2. 06:12 AM - Speedy recovery to Bill Dube (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 06:28 AM - Bill Dube Doing OK? (Sean Stephens)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: D-Sub Pin Extraction (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
5. 06:50 AM - Re: Bill Dube Doing OK? (George, Neal E Capt MIL USAF 605TES/TSI)
6. 07:14 AM - Re: Bill Dube Doing OK? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 11:28 AM - Re: D-Sub Pin Extraction (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 12:18 PM - Re: D-Sub Pin Extraction (Robert Feldtman)
9. 12:49 PM - XPDR trouble, what to look for ? (Gilles Thesee)
10. 02:19 PM - Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? (Doug Gray)
11. 02:36 PM - Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? (Gilles Thesee)
12. 03:19 PM - Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? (Doug Gray)
13. 03:27 PM - Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? (Dick Fisher)
14. 03:49 PM - Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? (Gilles Thesee)
15. 04:01 PM - Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? (Gilles Thesee)
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Subject: | Re: D-Sub Pin Extraction |
The extraction tool that I have has a slot in it. See picture:
The wire goes in the slot.
Got it from B&C
http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#DSE-1
Eric Newton - Long Beach, MS
BH #682- Mississippi Mudbug
BEARHAWK BUILDER'S MANUALS
http://mybearhawk.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <psiegel@fuse.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:50 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: D-Sub Pin Extraction
>
> I need to reverse the direction of my autopilot roll servo. This involves
> swapping two wires that go into the servo D-Sub connector.
>
> I have extractred pins from D-Sub connectors before, but I always had a
> free end of the wire attached to the pin to thread through the groove in
> the extraction tool.
>
> This may be a stupid question, but how do I get the extraction tool around
> the wire when I don't have a free end to the wire? This would be easy if
> I had a free end to thread into the extraction tool groove, but a free end
> isn't available unless I cut the wire!?
>
> I sure don't want to cut the two wires, swap and then solder working in
> the belly of my fuselage!
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> HELP!
>
> Paul Siegel
>
>
>
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Subject: | Speedy recovery to Bill Dube |
For those that didn't hear...
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33853/113/
do not archive
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Subject: | Bill Dube Doing OK? |
I hope Bill is ok?
<http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/14/0024236&from=rss>
-Sean
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Subject: | D-Sub Pin Extraction |
If you are using the plastic removal tool, it should have a slit in the
side to wrap around the wire allowing you to push the tool into the back
side of the connector, then a slight tug on the installed wire and the
pin is free.
I have the metal one and it is very easy to use and you do not have to
worry about the plastic breaking as easy, also per another builders
recommendation I got a wiring spoon, it is used for adding and taking
out wires in a bundle, very good tool to have when changing any wire
bundles. I purchased all of the colors of extraction, insertion tools,
and the spoon from Stein and am very happy with how they work.
http://www.steinair.com/tools.htm
Dan
N289DT RV10E
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
psiegel@fuse.net
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:50 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: D-Sub Pin Extraction
I need to reverse the direction of my autopilot roll servo. This
involves swapping two wires that go into the servo D-Sub connector.
I have extractred pins from D-Sub connectors before, but I always had a
free end of the wire attached to the pin to thread through the groove in
the extraction tool.
This may be a stupid question, but how do I get the extraction tool
around the wire when I don't have a free end to the wire? This would be
easy if I had a free end to thread into the extraction tool groove, but
a free end isn't available unless I cut the wire!?
I sure don't want to cut the two wires, swap and then solder working in
the belly of my fuselage!
Am I missing something here?
HELP!
Paul Siegel
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Subject: | Bill Dube Doing OK? |
Being stuck behind a completely irrational firewall, I can't see any of
these reports. What's the story?
neal
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Subject: | Bill Dube Doing OK? |
Electric motorcycle inventor crashes at Wired NextFest
Trendwatch
By Humphrey Cheung
Thursday, September 13, 2007 16:49
Los Angeles (CA) - The inventor of the "KillaCycle" electric motorcycle almost
killed himself during a demonstration at the Wired NextFest conference. Bill
Dube, a government scientist during the day and electric bike builder at night,
did a "burn out" in front of the Los Angeles Convention Center, but accidentally
accelerated too much and crashed into a Minivan.
Luckily we were able to interview Dube before the crash. He was quite proud of
his bike and told us that it was the quickest electric bike in existence. Using
A123 Systems lithium-ion batteries, the KillaCycle can go zero to 60 miles-per-hour
in a mind numbing .97 seconds. It also has a top speed of 158 MPH.
Dube fatefully told us that the batteries are "more powerful than anything else"
on the market. Well they were indeed the most powerful because they hurtled
Dube and his bike into another vehicle. You can watch the demonstration and
initial interview in the above video.
The crash threw Dube into the air and he landed on his back onto the hot Los Angeles
asphalt. Luckily he was conscious, breathing and had feeling in all his
fingers and toes. Paramedics from the Los Angeles Fire Department arrived and
took Dube to the hospital for x-rays.
Do not archive
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George, Neal E Capt MIL USAF 605TES/TSI
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Bill Dube Doing OK?
Being stuck behind a completely irrational firewall, I can't see any of
these reports. What's the story?
neal
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Subject: | Re: D-Sub Pin Extraction |
At 09:50 PM 9/13/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>
>I need to reverse the direction of my autopilot roll servo. This involves
>swapping two wires that go into the servo D-Sub connector.
>
>I have extractred pins from D-Sub connectors before, but I always had a
>free end of the wire attached to the pin to thread through the groove in
>the extraction tool.
>
>This may be a stupid question, but how do I get the extraction tool around
>the wire when I don't have a free end to the wire? This would be easy if
>I had a free end to thread into the extraction tool groove, but a free end
>isn't available unless I cut the wire!?
>
>I sure don't want to cut the two wires, swap and then solder working in
>the belly of my fuselage!
>
>Am I missing something here?
See http://aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/Pin-Extraction.html
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: D-Sub Pin Extraction |
Ditto to replies - I got one at Radio Shack! Also, check your autopilot
software - some allow you to switch directions with the software and you
don't have to do a wire change. At least my trio does
bobf
On 9/14/07, Eric Newton <enewton57@cableone.net> wrote:
>
> The extraction tool that I have has a slot in it. See picture:
>
> The wire goes in the slot.
>
> Got it from B&C
> http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#DSE-1
>
> Eric Newton - Long Beach, MS
> BH #682- Mississippi Mudbug
> BEARHAWK BUILDER'S MANUALS
> http://mybearhawk.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <psiegel@fuse.net>
> To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:50 PM
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: D-Sub Pin Extraction
>
>
> >
> > I need to reverse the direction of my autopilot roll servo. This
> involves
> > swapping two wires that go into the servo D-Sub connector.
> >
> > I have extractred pins from D-Sub connectors before, but I always had a
> > free end of the wire attached to the pin to thread through the groove in
> > the extraction tool.
> >
> > This may be a stupid question, but how do I get the extraction tool
> around
> > the wire when I don't have a free end to the wire? This would be easy
> if
> > I had a free end to thread into the extraction tool groove, but a free
> end
> > isn't available unless I cut the wire!?
> >
> > I sure don't want to cut the two wires, swap and then solder working in
> > the belly of my fuselage!
> >
> > Am I missing something here?
> >
> > HELP!
> >
> > Paul Siegel
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | XPDR trouble, what to look for ? |
Hi Bob and all,
Two buddies are reporting a recent XPDR trouble with their Microair
T2000SFL transponder with an ACK A30 encoder, installed with the
supplied harness and antenna.
After 50 trouble-free hours, the controller reported not receiving all
infos from their transponder, then shortly after she told them she got
no response at all.
I made a quick inspection of their coaxial connections, but did not find
anything. The XPDR does not display any warning or error.
I would appreciate any advice as to where to further investigate, and
whether a XPDR fault is probable.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
--
Gilles Thesee
http://contrails.free.fr
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Subject: | Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? |
Bonjour Gilles,
Firstly check the obvious (as you probably already have). That is test
the co-ax lead for good continuity on core and shield, check power and
connections at the connector, plus the connector security.
If you still have a problem, get up early one morning and telephone
Microair for their recommendation. I'd be surprised if you had a poor
response.
Do let the list know of the outcome.
Doug Gray
..Sydney, Aust.
do not archive
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 21:45 +0200, Gilles Thesee wrote:
>
> Hi Bob and all,
>
> Two buddies are reporting a recent XPDR trouble with their Microair
> T2000SFL transponder with an ACK A30 encoder, installed with the
> supplied harness and antenna.
>
> After 50 trouble-free hours, the controller reported not receiving all
> infos from their transponder, then shortly after she told them she got
> no response at all.
> I made a quick inspection of their coaxial connections, but did not find
> anything. The XPDR does not display any warning or error.
> I would appreciate any advice as to where to further investigate, and
> whether a XPDR fault is probable.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Regards,
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Subject: | Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? |
Doug,
Thank you for responding.
> test the co-ax lead for good continuity on core and shield,
Did not do yet, we were on a distant airfield.
> check power and
> connections at the connector, plus the connector security.
>
Done. The transponder displays as usual.
> If you still have a problem, get up early one morning and telephone
> Microair for their recommendation. I'd be surprised if you had a poor
> response.
>
Thank you for your input.
BTW, are you the Doug Gray of "3 GPS legs" method fame ?
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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Subject: | Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? |
Gilles,
Yes, I'm the culprit on the method.
Regarding the transponders, if there <is> a latent defect in the product
the manufacturer should own the problem.
Regards,
Doug
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 23:36 +0200, Gilles Thesee wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> Thank you for responding.
>
> > test the co-ax lead for good continuity on core and shield,
>
> Did not do yet, we were on a distant airfield.
>
> > check power and
> > connections at the connector, plus the connector security.
> >
>
> Done. The transponder displays as usual.
>
> > If you still have a problem, get up early one morning and telephone
> > Microair for their recommendation. I'd be surprised if you had a poor
> > response.
> >
> Thank you for your input.
> BTW, are you the Doug Gray of "3 GPS legs" method fame ?
>
> Best regards,
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Subject: | Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? |
You problems maybe Mode S related. Check out the Microair website.
All of these transponders need to be updated to Revision 7 which is
fairly pricey. I was quoted $445.00 US + shipping from Erie Aviation,
an authorized repair shop.
Dick Fisher
sonex76@velocity.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:45 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: XPDR trouble, what to look for ?
> <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
>
> Hi Bob and all,
>
> Two buddies are reporting a recent XPDR trouble with their Microair
> T2000SFL transponder with an ACK A30 encoder, installed with the supplied
> harness and antenna.
>
> After 50 trouble-free hours, the controller reported not receiving all
> infos from their transponder, then shortly after she told them she got no
> response at all.
> I made a quick inspection of their coaxial connections, but did not find
> anything. The XPDR does not display any warning or error.
> I would appreciate any advice as to where to further investigate, and
> whether a XPDR fault is probable.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Regards,
> --
> Gilles Thesee
> http://contrails.free.fr
>
>
> --
> 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? |
Dick Fisher a crit :
>
> Check out the Microair website.
> All of these transponders need to be updated to Revision 7 which is
> fairly pricey. I was quoted $445.00 US + shipping from Erie Aviation,
> an authorized repair shop.
Dick, Doug and all,
Of course I'll make the necessary coax verifications, then contact the
dealer where they got their transponder.
Just checked the Microair website. I'm a bit concerned for my buddies.
I'm not aware of any Mode S ground installation in the Lyon area
(France) where they have been having their problem, but who knows.
What surprises me is that Microair talks about charging the client for a
simple software update to correct a built-in defect.
The software update should be free once you produce your XPDR S/N, or
performed under warranty by the dealers.
Will keep you posted,
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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Subject: | Re: XPDR trouble, what to look for ? |
Gilles Thesee a crit :
> What surprises me is that Microair talks about charging the client for
> a simple software update to correct a built-in defect.
Well, reading more carefully, there is also a hardware mod.
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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