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0. 12:15 AM - List Fund Raiser (Matt Dralle)
1. 12:33 AM - Questions on Z-16 Diagram (txpilot)
2. 04:13 AM - Re: Final Review (Gilles Thesee)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: Questions on Z-16 Diagram (Gilles Thesee)
4. 05:04 AM - Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? (Sam Hoskins)
5. 08:28 AM - Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? (Michel Creek)
6. 08:34 AM - Re: Questions on Z-16 Diagram (Robert McCallum)
7. 01:27 PM - Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? (Peter Harris)
8. 02:02 PM - Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? (Sam Hoskins)
9. 04:13 PM - Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? (Peter Harris)
10. 05:06 PM - Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? (Sam Hoskins)
11. 05:19 PM - Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? (Walter Fellows)
12. 06:21 PM - Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? (Ken)
13. 06:58 PM - Re: For Sale BMA EFIS One (Mike)
14. 09:51 PM - Re: 496 Audio (Dave Saylor)
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| Subject: | Questions on Z-16 Diagram |
Hello,
I'm currently building a Zenith CH-701 with a Rotax 912S. I'm using the Z-16 revision
M schematic as a guide for designing my electrical system. I'm afraid
I'm struggling a bit on understanding this diagram and have a few questions.
1. The schematic shows the start switch connected to a starter contactor which
I assume would be B&C part S702-1. I'm using an ACS A-510-2 ignition switch.
Can this start switch be directly connected to the starter relay supplied by
Rotax, or will I need to purchase S702-1 and run it in series with the supplied
starter relay? Do I need to worry about excessive wear on the start switch
contacts if I directly connect the start switch to the Rotax starter relay?
2. I'm trying to understand the overvoltage protection. Correct me if I'm wrong,
but I believe this is the sequence if the voltage regulator fails:
A. Crowbar Overvoltage Module senses the overvoltage condition. Creates a
'short' from alternator master switch to ground.
B. Alt breaker responds to the short by tripping, thus de-energizing alternator
OV disconnect relay.
C. Alternator OV relay opens circuit from alternator (yellow AC wires), thus
removing the alternator from the system.
3. Assuming I'm right on number 2, I'm confused on the N.C. and N.O. terminology.
I thought an energized relay circuit would be considered 'normally closed',
but according to the diagram that would open the circuit and take the alternator
off line. I don't mean to get too wrapped up on the terminology, but I
want to make sure I understand what I'm doing here.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Best Regards,
Dan Ginty
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| Subject: | Re: Final Review |
Terry Watson a crit :
> Can you tell us the make and model of the flakey EFIS, and a little more
> about the circumstances?
>
Terry,
The instrument is some sort of Becker moving map about 6-7 years old.
Considering the behaviour, I did not try to determine the exact
denomination ;-)
Anytime the voltage sags, the unit reboots : for instance on the ground
with the engine idling, one must not move the electric wing flaps lest
the GPS reboot...
Also, the display is not really sunlight readable : we had to use a map
as a shade to accurately read the map. The associated Dynon is not much
better in this respect, BTW.
Best regards,
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Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Questions on Z-16 Diagram |
txpilot a crit :
Dan,
I wired two airplanes using Fig Z16 with no problem.
> 1. Can this start switch be directly connected to the starter relay supplied
by Rotax,
You can use the Rotax starter relay. Make sure to add a diode or else
across the coil.
> 3. Assuming I'm right on number 2, I'm confused on the N.C. and N.O. terminology.
I thought an energized relay circuit would be considered 'normally closed'
>
Most relays have 'normally open' and 'normally closed' contacts. That
tells us which contacts are closed or open when *de-energized*. You
chose which set of contact you want to use.
You may wish to look at the relay documentation to identify which
contacts are which, otherwise you can use a multimeter.
Best regards,
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Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? |
I found this article about Odyssey batteries, as used in boats. There is a
lot of background on WHY the Odyssey is better.
http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/odyssey-batteries.html
Sam
On 11/3/07, Michel Creek <mwcreek@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
> Sam,
>
>
> The Odyssey PC680 Battery weighs 15 lbs and is used to start O-540's in
> several planes I know of:
>
>
> http://www.odysseybatteries.com/batteries.htm
>
>
> You should be able to get by with something even smaller such as a PC545
> at 12 lbs.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Hoskins
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:35 PM
> *To:* Aerolectric List
> *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
>
>
> Greetings Aeroelectric list.
>
> After 21 years of hand-propping my Continental O-200 I may finally install
> a starter because I will probably be installing a fuel injection system.
>
> The thing I don't like is 10 pounds for the starter and another 25 lb. for
> the battery. What is the smallest battery I can likely get away with? It
> usually starts within a pull or two, so I don't think that I'll need a
> starter/battery combination strong enough to taxi the aircraft.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sam Hoskins
> Quickie Q-200
> Murphysboro, IL
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| Subject: | How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? |
Thanks for the article, Sam. I hadn't seen that article before; it is
consistent with other reviews I've read before (don't remember where).
Mike C.
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam
Hoskins
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
I found this article about Odyssey batteries, as used in boats. There is a
lot of background on WHY the Odyssey is better.
http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/odyssey-batteries.html
Sam
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| Subject: | Re: Questions on Z-16 Diagram |
Dan;
"Normal" with respect to switch or relay contacts means just that,
"normal", "most of the time", "as sitting on the shelf" , etc. The
opposite of "normal" is the activated or energised state where power is
applied to the relay coil, the switch is activated, etc and the contacts
transfer to the opposite position.
Bob McC
----- Original Message -----
From: "txpilot" <djg7@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:31 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Questions on Z-16 Diagram
>
> Hello,
> I'm currently building a Zenith CH-701 with a Rotax 912S. I'm using
the Z-16 revision M schematic as a guide for designing my electrical
system. I'm afraid I'm struggling a bit on understanding this diagram
and have a few questions.
>
> 1. The schematic shows the start switch connected to a starter
contactor which I assume would be B&C part S702-1. I'm using an ACS
A-510-2 ignition switch. Can this start switch be directly connected to
the starter relay supplied by Rotax, or will I need to purchase S702-1
and run it in series with the supplied starter relay? Do I need to
worry about excessive wear on the start switch contacts if I directly
connect the start switch to the Rotax starter relay?
>
> 2. I'm trying to understand the overvoltage protection. Correct me
if I'm wrong, but I believe this is the sequence if the voltage
regulator fails:
>
> A. Crowbar Overvoltage Module senses the overvoltage condition.
Creates a 'short' from alternator master switch to ground.
>
> B. Alt breaker responds to the short by tripping, thus
de-energizing alternator OV disconnect relay.
>
> C. Alternator OV relay opens circuit from alternator (yellow AC
wires), thus removing the alternator from the system.
>
> 3. Assuming I'm right on number 2, I'm confused on the N.C. and N.O.
terminology. I thought an energized relay circuit would be considered
'normally closed', but according to the diagram that would open the
circuit and take the alternator off line. I don't mean to get too
wrapped up on the terminology, but I want to make sure I understand what
I'm doing here.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Dan Ginty
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143737#143737
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? |
Sam,
The subject came up earlier, when using electronic fuel injection there is a
need to plan so that the endurance of the battery is at least half the
endurance of the fuel, so that a failed alternator would not stop the fan
away from a landing place. The electrical load for the fuel injection
includes the load for the pump at least 8A total. The Odyssey batteries are
designed to deliver a high current for big cranking start but endurance is
better with some others formulated for lighting and IT back up. I chose an
HGL 33-12 which is a major overkill for endurance over 4hrs and weight 24lb.
The very big HGL range is sealed glass matt low maintenance good endurance.
The Odyssey has the big reputation for cranking in aviation.
Peter H
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Creek
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
Sam,
The Odyssey PC680 Battery weighs 15 lbs and is used to start O-540's in
several planes I know of:
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/batteries.htm
You should be able to get by with something even smaller such as a PC545 at
12 lbs.
_____
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam
Hoskins
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
Greetings Aeroelectric list.
After 21 years of hand-propping my Continental O-200 I may finally install a
starter because I will probably be installing a fuel injection system.
The thing I don't like is 10 pounds for the starter and another 25 lb. for
the battery. What is the smallest battery I can likely get away with? It
usually starts within a pull or two, so I don't think that I'll need a
starter/battery combination strong enough to taxi the aircraft.
Thanks.
Sam Hoskins
Quickie Q-200
Murphysboro, IL
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
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| Subject: | Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? |
Good consideration, Peter. I think will be using two batteries and one
alternator. I'll use my existing battery which was designed for my original
endurance bus, then I'll add a second for cranking. I'll have to get busy
and run some numbers.
Sam
On 11/4/07, Peter Harris <peterjfharris@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Sam,
>
> The subject came up earlier, when using electronic fuel injection there is
> a need to plan so that the endurance of the battery is at least half the
> endurance of the fuel, so that a failed alternator would not stop the fan
> away from a landing place. The electrical load for the fuel injection
> includes the load for the pump at least 8A total. The Odyssey batteries are
> designed to deliver a high current for big cranking start but endurance is
> better with some others formulated for lighting and IT back up. I chose an
> HGL 33-12 which is a major overkill for endurance over 4hrs and weight 24lb.
>
> The very big HGL range is sealed glass matt low maintenance good
> endurance. The Odyssey has the big reputation for cranking in aviation.
>
> Peter H
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Michel Creek
> *Sent:* Sunday, 4 November 2007 9:13 AM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320
> starter?
>
>
> Sam,
>
>
> The Odyssey PC680 Battery weighs 15 lbs and is used to start O-540's in
> several planes I know of:
>
>
> http://www.odysseybatteries.com/batteries.htm
>
>
> You should be able to get by with something even smaller such as a PC545
> at 12 lbs.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Hoskins
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:35 PM
> *To:* Aerolectric List
> *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
>
>
> Greetings Aeroelectric list.
>
> After 21 years of hand-propping my Continental O-200 I may finally install
> a starter because I will probably be installing a fuel injection system.
>
> The thing I don't like is 10 pounds for the starter and another 25 lb. for
> the battery. What is the smallest battery I can likely get away with? It
> usually starts within a pull or two, so I don't think that I'll need a
> starter/battery combination strong enough to taxi the aircraft.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sam Hoskins
> Quickie Q-200
> Murphysboro, IL
>
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| Subject: | How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? |
Sam,
Bob has got a variety of circuits to suit almost every need with proper
consideration for power and back up, if you check out the "Z files".
Peter H.
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam
Hoskins
Sent: Monday, 5 November 2007 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
Good consideration, Peter. I think will be using two batteries and one
alternator. I'll use my existing battery which was designed for my original
endurance bus, then I'll add a second for cranking. I'll have to get busy
and run some numbers.
Sam
On 11/4/07, Peter Harris <peterjfharris@bigpond.com> wrote:
Sam,
The subject came up earlier, when using electronic fuel injection there is a
need to plan so that the endurance of the battery is at least half the
endurance of the fuel, so that a failed alternator would not stop the fan
away from a landing place. The electrical load for the fuel injection
includes the load for the pump at least 8A total. The Odyssey batteries are
designed to deliver a high current for big cranking start but endurance is
better with some others formulated for lighting and IT back up. I chose an
HGL 33-12 which is a major overkill for endurance over 4hrs and weight 24lb.
The very big HGL range is sealed glass matt low maintenance good endurance.
The Odyssey has the big reputation for cranking in aviation.
Peter H
_____
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Creek
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
Sam,
The Odyssey PC680 Battery weighs 15 lbs and is used to start O-540's in
several planes I know of:
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/batteries.htm
You should be able to get by with something even smaller such as a PC545 at
12 lbs.
_____
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam
Hoskins
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
Greetings Aeroelectric list.
After 21 years of hand-propping my Continental O-200 I may finally install a
starter because I will probably be installing a fuel injection system.
The thing I don't like is 10 pounds for the starter and another 25 lb. for
the battery. What is the smallest battery I can likely get away with? It
usually starts within a pull or two, so I don't think that I'll need a
starter/battery combination strong enough to taxi the aircraft.
Thanks.
Sam Hoskins
Quickie Q-200
Murphysboro, IL
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? |
I know. My copy of the AeroElectronic connection is out at the hangar.
On 11/4/07, Peter Harris <peterjfharris@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Sam,
>
> Bob has got a variety of circuits to suit almost every need with proper
> consideration for power and back up, if you check out the "Z files".
>
> Peter H.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Hoskins
> *Sent:* Monday, 5 November 2007 7:59 AM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320
> starter?
>
>
> Good consideration, Peter. I think will be using two batteries and one
> alternator. I'll use my existing battery which was designed for my original
> endurance bus, then I'll add a second for cranking. I'll have to get busy
> and run some numbers.
>
> Sam
>
> On 11/4/07, *Peter Harris* <peterjfharris@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Sam,
>
> The subject came up earlier, when using electronic fuel injection there is
> a need to plan so that the endurance of the battery is at least half the
> endurance of the fuel, so that a failed alternator would not stop the fan
> away from a landing place. The electrical load for the fuel injection
> includes the load for the pump at least 8A total. The Odyssey batteries are
> designed to deliver a high current for big cranking start but endurance is
> better with some others formulated for lighting and IT back up. I chose an
> HGL 33-12 which is a major overkill for endurance over 4hrs and weight 24lb.
>
> The very big HGL range is sealed glass matt low maintenance good
> endurance. The Odyssey has the big reputation for cranking in aviation.
>
> Peter H
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Michel Creek
> *Sent:* Sunday, 4 November 2007 9:13 AM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320
> starter?
>
>
> Sam,
>
>
> The Odyssey PC680 Battery weighs 15 lbs and is used to start O-540's in
> several planes I know of:
>
>
> http://www.odysseybatteries.com/batteries.htm
>
>
> You should be able to get by with something even smaller such as a PC545
> at 12 lbs.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Hoskins
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:35 PM
> *To:* Aerolectric List
> *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
>
>
> Greetings Aeroelectric list.
>
> After 21 years of hand-propping my Continental O-200 I may finally install
> a starter because I will probably be installing a fuel injection system.
>
> The thing I don't like is 10 pounds for the starter and another 25 lb. for
> the battery. What is the smallest battery I can likely get away with? It
> usually starts within a pull or two, so I don't think that I'll need a
> starter/battery combination strong enough to taxi the aircraft.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sam Hoskins
> Quickie Q-200
> Murphysboro, IL
>
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| Subject: | Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? |
Wow, the website has a vicious set of pop-ups. This review seems to be to
good to be true, is this one brand of battery really so superior?
On 11/4/07, Peter Harris <peterjfharris@bigpond.com> wrote:
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> Sam,
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> Bob has got a variety of circuits to suit almost every need with proper
> consideration for power and back up, if you check out the "Z files".
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> Peter H.
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> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Hoskins
> *Sent:* Monday, 5 November 2007 7:59 AM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320
> starter?
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> Good consideration, Peter. I think will be using two batteries and one
> alternator. I'll use my existing battery which was designed for my original
> endurance bus, then I'll add a second for cranking. I'll have to get busy
> and run some numbers.
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> Sam
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> On 11/4/07, *Peter Harris* <peterjfharris@bigpond.com> wrote:
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> Sam,
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> The subject came up earlier, when using electronic fuel injection there is
> a need to plan so that the endurance of the battery is at least half the
> endurance of the fuel, so that a failed alternator would not stop the fan
> away from a landing place. The electrical load for the fuel injection
> includes the load for the pump at least 8A total. The Odyssey batteries are
> designed to deliver a high current for big cranking start but endurance is
> better with some others formulated for lighting and IT back up. I chose an
> HGL 33-12 which is a major overkill for endurance over 4hrs and weight 24lb.
>
> The very big HGL range is sealed glass matt low maintenance good
> endurance. The Odyssey has the big reputation for cranking in aviation.
>
> Peter H
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>
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> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Michel Creek
> *Sent:* Sunday, 4 November 2007 9:13 AM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320
> starter?
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> Sam,
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>
> The Odyssey PC680 Battery weighs 15 lbs and is used to start O-540's in
> several planes I know of:
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> http://www.odysseybatteries.com/batteries.htm
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> You should be able to get by with something even smaller such as a PC545
> at 12 lbs.
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Hoskins
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:35 PM
> *To:* Aerolectric List
> *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter?
>
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> Greetings Aeroelectric list.
>
> After 21 years of hand-propping my Continental O-200 I may finally install
> a starter because I will probably be installing a fuel injection system.
>
> The thing I don't like is 10 pounds for the starter and another 25 lb. for
> the battery. What is the smallest battery I can likely get away with? It
> usually starts within a pull or two, so I don't think that I'll need a
> starter/battery combination strong enough to taxi the aircraft.
>
> Thanks.
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> Sam Hoskins
> Quickie Q-200
> Murphysboro, IL
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| Subject: | Re: How small battery for the B&C BC320 starter? |
The TYPE is superior but there are other equivalent units to the Odysey
IMO such as the Dekka series by East Penn Mfg.
Even the 15AH one in my $30. Chinese automobile booster has survived
much more abuse than I expected. I've even run a 1 kw inverter off it
for power at the airport.
Ken
Walter Fellows wrote:
> Wow, the website has a vicious set of pop-ups. This review seems to be
> to good to be true, is this one brand of battery really so superior?
>
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| Subject: | For Sale BMA EFIS One |
I give you $5.00 for it! I=92ll smash it on video and send you a free
copy. This is a good deal.
Mike Larkin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Giffen Marr
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: For Sale BMA EFIS One
Your absolutely right, however this new BMA EFIS/One Ver 3 has the
second screen, which is a $3000 option for a new the EFIS/0ne Gen 4 and
$2600 for the smaller EFIS 2. Still a good savings over the current
versions. Make me an offer.
Giffen Marr
817-306-9592
617-223-9671 Cell
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I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the PS audio panel. I do know in the past
they have been far more willing to help make weird things work than Garmin
seems to be.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Melvin
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: 496 Audio
--> <Melvinke@coho.net>
Very useful information! I am currently wiring the 496 audio/warning output
into the "music" jack of the PS4000 audio-panel. Does one tie the "voice+"
and "warning" wires together into the "tip" terminal, and the "voice -" to
the other?
Thanks,
Kenneth Melvin, Hillsboro, Oregon.
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