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1. 03:28 AM - Re: Good deals on AMP T-head tools (Bob Leffler)
2. 06:08 AM - 20 Amp Solid State Relay usage ()
3. 06:33 AM - Re: com antenna problem (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9o_Celis?=)
4. 07:38 AM - Re: Good deals on AMP T-head tools (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
5. 07:42 AM - Re: 20 Amp Solid State Relay usage (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 08:33 AM - Z13 Procedures (Jim Piavis)
7. 08:55 AM - Re: Z13 Procedures (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 09:46 AM - Re: PIDG .25" Fast-On terminals (B Tomm)
9. 10:24 AM - Re: Z13 Procedures (Bill Boyd)
10. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: PIDG .25" Fast-On terminals ()
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| Subject: | Good deals on AMP T-head tools |
I purchased one from the same individual last week for $121. He seems to
have quite a few of these. It's interesting that the purchase now prices
are different. I wonder if the differences are due to quality or shape of
the tools, or simply market demands. I guess I'll never know the answer to
that question.
One recommendation that I would make is to search the completed sales to see
what price the previous sales concluded with. Since Thanksgiving, this tool
has gone for as low as $52 to a high of $159. Hmmm, I wonder if the recent
price surge are those of us from the Columbus seminar bidding against each
other?
There also appears to be quite a few Daniels AFM8 available as well. I was
also able to pick one up with the K13 positioner too.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:50 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Good deals on AMP T-head tools
<nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
Check out these buy-it-now prices on
the king of PIDG terminal service tools.
I'm all fixed up with tools or I'd buy them.
http://ebay.com
Item 150193891967
Item 150193892277
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | 20 Amp Solid State Relay usage |
12/12/2007
Hello Tony, I have one of these units in my KIS TR-1 airplane.
http://www.dcthermal.qpg.com/
If you have not already purchased it you may want to reconsider.
Mine puts out about the same amount of heat as waving a lighted cigarette
around in the cockpit. It may help a bit if your cockpit is sealed really
tight against outside airflow -- not that easy to accomplish.
It also generates background static during radio receptions. I would not
purchase one again.
Instead I would consider either heated clothing or seats -- plenty of
options available there. Some examples:
http://www.gerbing.com/
http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/index.html
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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Time: 05:43:08 PM PST US
From: Tony Gibson <umgibso1@yahoo.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: 20 Amp Solid State Relay usage
Hi everyone, if applicable I'd also like to use this relay for switching an
electric
heater... a 35A forced air infra-red quartz unit from Aircraft Spruce.
It says the contacts of the VF4-65F11 are rated for 40A?
http://www.chiptech.com/secondary/manu-prod_pdf/P/Potter&Brumfield.pdf
Since it's offered with quick connect terminals I'm assuming fast-ons
would be
OK to use here? Thanx for any help,
Tony Gibson
Winnipeg, Manitoba
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| Subject: | Re: com antenna problem |
Thanks, Bob, we can now move on to the next problem: modifying the
RV-7A nose gear - a mandatory SB...
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: com antenna problem
> <nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
>
> At 06:10 PM 12/11/2007 +0100, you wrote:
>
>><theo.celis@skynet.be>
>>
>>
>>
>>Connections on the ammeter: 4 studs (and 2 wires for the internal lt):
>>pwr, gnd, 2 from the shunt.
>>I reread the instructions (with diagram) and they refer to AC4313.13...
>>They mention the use of 18awg for all wires - exc the light.
>>Nothing is said about meter sensitivity or the use of shielded
>>wire.
>
> And it shouldn't. What you describe is the ordinary
> signal-powered instrument designed to be used with
> the conventional ammeter shunt. I can think of no
> reason for this device to be sensitive to radio
> frequency energy.
>
>>I should mention that the checks were done in the workshop where
>>ceiling and floor contain rebars and the door is aluminum.
>>Reception of nearby Brussels app is excellent.
>>The tip-up canopy was removed for easy access.
>
> None of this is relevant. Without launching a
> $time$ consuming research task to see why this
> instrument seems to be affected, we're probably
> not going to learn of the root cause and remedy.
>
> Know that there are a number of similarly affected
> displays on type certificated aircraft wherein the
> crew are instructed to "disregard the perturbations
> observed while transmitting."
>
> It would be interesting to know why and perhaps
> institute a fix . . . but it's not going to add
> value to your finished product in proportion to
> the cost of knowing what the fix is.
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Good deals on AMP T-head tools |
At 06:24 AM 12/12/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I purchased one from the same individual last week for $121. He seems to
>have quite a few of these. It's interesting that the purchase now prices
>are different. I wonder if the differences are due to quality or shape of
>the tools, or simply market demands. I guess I'll never know the answer to
>that question.
Given that the new price of this tool is on the order of
$600, anything substantially less is a deal. I paid $25
for the first one I bought in 1962 and paid $75 for AMP
to refurbish it. The last one I got off Ebay was $150
and I was very pleased to acquire it for that.
>One recommendation that I would make is to search the completed sales to see
>what price the previous sales concluded with. Since Thanksgiving, this tool
>has gone for as low as $52 to a high of $159. Hmmm, I wonder if the recent
>price surge are those of us from the Columbus seminar bidding against each
>other?
Could be. That's called a free-market, supplier-consumer relationship.
>There also appears to be quite a few Daniels AFM8 available as well. I was
>also able to pick one up with the K13 positioner too.
That's a premier tool for the task. I've not had occasion
to seek replacement for the machined pin application tools
I've had for a number of years . . . but the range of
going rates on ebay have been very attractive.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: 20 Amp Solid State Relay usage |
At 09:07 AM 12/12/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>
>12/12/2007
>
>Hello Tony, I have one of these units in my KIS TR-1 airplane.
>
>http://www.dcthermal.qpg.com/
>
>If you have not already purchased it you may want to reconsider.
>
>Mine puts out about the same amount of heat as waving a lighted cigarette
>around in the cockpit. It may help a bit if your cockpit is sealed really
>tight against outside airflow -- not that easy to accomplish.
>
>It also generates background static during radio receptions. I would not
>purchase one again.
>
>Instead I would consider either heated clothing or seats -- plenty of
>options available there. Some examples:
>
>http://www.gerbing.com/
>
>http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/index.html
>
>'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
>understand knowledge."
Agreed. The only 24V LongEz I've ever assisted with
had a 100A alternator on it. 3 amps to run the airplane,
97 amps to run the 2000W cabin heater. Yeah, it extended his
cold-weather flying season a few weeks in the fall and
opened it a few weeks earlier in the spring . . . but
it didn't do the back seater a bit of good and the
$time$ to acquire, install and carry this system around
in the airplane was SIGNIFICANT.
Bob . . .
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( appearance of being right . . . )
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>From an operations procedure on Z-13, in the event of a alternator failure,
is the proper process:
1) Master - OFF
2) E-Buss - ON (feed E-Buss from Batt)
3) Stand-By Alt - ON
Does it really matter if the SD-8 is brought on line prior to the e-buss fe
ed?
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Z13 Procedures |
At 08:27 AM 12/12/2007 -0800, you wrote:
> From an operations procedure on Z-13, in the event of a alternator
> failure, is the proper process:
>
>1) Master - OFF
>
>2) E-Buss ON (feed E-Buss from Batt)
>
>3) Stand-By Alt ON
>
>
>Does it really matter if the SD-8 is brought on line prior to the e-buss feed?
No, there is no risk to any equipment for "improper"
operation of the switches. You MIGHT have some
device on the e-bus that does a software reset
at power up. Therefore, consider adoption of
the following:
(1) Low Volts Warning - ON
(2) E-Bus Aternate Feed - ON
(3) Standby ALT - ON
(4) Battery/Master switch - OFF
However, one may consider any sequence
without risk to installed hardware. Existence
of the E-Bus and SD-8 makes it failure tolerant;
risk-free sequencing of switches makes it
goof tolerant.
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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| Subject: | PIDG .25" Fast-On terminals |
Thanks Bob,
I bought a bunch of them BUT...
Buyers be warned. The shipping cost quoted is PER ITEM !!. That means my
shipping cost was originally billed to me at $675!!! It did come with a
almost-as-large discount but still, the shipping was going to be about $16.
Don't ask me how that was calculated. This is 200% more than I thought it
would be. I eventually got a final shipping cost of $4.50 total but had to
dialogue with the seller to get it. So be warned!!!
Bevan
RV7A wiring
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:54 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: PIDG .25" Fast-On terminals
--> <nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
Also see this ebay offering for PIDG
fast-on terminals. AMP dwg:
http://tinyurl.com/2ws3ln
Ebay item:
120096613362
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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| Subject: | Re: Z13 Procedures |
Bob, where do things stand R&D-wise with your proposed external OVP for the
IR automotive alternators? Haven't heard anything in awhile, and wondering
if I missed something lately.
-Bill B
On Dec 12, 2007 11:54 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
wrote:
> nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
>
> At 08:27 AM 12/12/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>
> > From an operations procedure on Z-13, in the event of a alternator
> > failure, is the proper process:
> >
> >1) Master - OFF
> >
> >2) E-Buss ON (feed E-Buss from Batt)
> >
> >3) Stand-By Alt ON
> >
> >
> >
> >Does it really matter if the SD-8 is brought on line prior to the e-buss
> feed?
>
> No, there is no risk to any equipment for "improper"
> operation of the switches. You MIGHT have some
> device on the e-bus that does a software reset
> at power up. Therefore, consider adoption of
> the following:
>
> (1) Low Volts Warning - ON
>
> (2) E-Bus Aternate Feed - ON
>
> (3) Standby ALT - ON
>
> (4) Battery/Master switch - OFF
>
> However, one may consider any sequence
> without risk to installed hardware. Existence
> of the E-Bus and SD-8 makes it failure tolerant;
> risk-free sequencing of switches makes it
> goof tolerant.
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ----------------------------------------)
> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
> ( appearance of being right . . . )
> ( )
> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
> ----------------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: PIDG .25" Fast-On terminals |
When all else fails, give Stein a call (www.steinair.com). He may not always have the lowest price, but he usually will have what you need at reasonable price.
>
> From: "B Tomm" <fvalarm@rapidnet.net>
> Date: 2007/12/12 Wed PM 12:44:43 EST
> To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: PIDG .25" Fast-On terminals
>
>
> Thanks Bob,
>
> I bought a bunch of them BUT...
>
> Buyers be warned. The shipping cost quoted is PER ITEM !!. That means my
> shipping cost was originally billed to me at $675!!! It did come with a
> almost-as-large discount but still, the shipping was going to be about $16.
> Don't ask me how that was calculated. This is 200% more than I thought it
> would be. I eventually got a final shipping cost of $4.50 total but had to
> dialogue with the seller to get it. So be warned!!!
>
> Bevan
> RV7A wiring
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
> Nuckolls, III
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:54 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: PIDG .25" Fast-On terminals
>
> --> <nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
>
> Also see this ebay offering for PIDG
> fast-on terminals. AMP dwg:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ws3ln
>
> Ebay item:
>
> 120096613362
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ----------------------------------------)
> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
> ( appearance of being right . . . )
> ( )
> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
> ----------------------------------------
>
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