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1. 06:23 AM - Seminar Date Set for Lawrenceville, GA (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here goes (Randy)
3. 10:18 AM - Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here goes (N395V)
4. 10:41 AM - Re: Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here goes (jdalton77)
5. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here goes (Randy)
6. 04:42 PM - DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners (Patrick ONeill)
7. 05:18 PM - Re: DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners (Bob Leffler)
8. 05:24 PM - Re: DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners (Ron Quillin)
9. 05:44 PM - Re: DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 05:50 PM - Compass Requirements in Experimental Aircraft (updated) (Eric Newton)
11. 09:48 PM - Re: DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners (Bruce Gray)
12. 10:14 PM - Re: Compass Requirements in Experimental Aircraft (updated) (Ernest Christley)
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| Subject: | Seminar Date Set for Lawrenceville, GA |
EAA Chapter 690 has graciously offered their hangar
for an AeroElectric Connection weekend seminar on
February 9/10, 2008. Interested parties can get
more information by accessing the announcement and
signup sheet at:
http://aeroelectric.com/seminars/Lawrenceville.html
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here |
goes
Can you post a link to the Flight Cheetah forum. I think I
would like to sign up.
Randy
>>
>> Also in the Flight Cheetah forum there iis a comparison of several
>> programs compared to truemap.
>>
>> The remotte moniter is a bit brighter than the Q1 ultra. The Q1 ultra is
>> miles better than the old Q1.
>>
>> The Q1 Ultra is the most readable PC I have ever had in the cockpit.
>>
>> Milt
>>
>> --------
>> Milt
>> 2003 F1 Rocket
>> 2006 Radial Rocket
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| Subject: | Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here goes |
http://www.bearcataviation.com/album_frame.asp?forum=open&menuID=6~6
Not a lot of activity so far but it is the only dedicated to the flight cheetah
forum out there.
brinker(at)suddenlinkmail wrote:
> Can you post a link to the Flight Cheetah forum. I think I
> would like to sign up.
>
> Randy
>
>
> > >
> > > Also in the Flight Cheetah forum there iis a comparison of several
> > > programs compared to truemap.
> > >
> > > The remotte moniter is a bit brighter than the Q1 ultra. The Q1 ultra is
> > > miles better than the old Q1.
> > >
> > > The Q1 Ultra is the most readable PC I have ever had in the cockpit.
> > >
> > > Milt
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Milt
> > > 2003 F1 Rocket
> > > 2006 Radial Rocket
> >
> >
>
--------
Milt
2003 F1 Rocket
2006 Radial Rocket
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154354#154354
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| Subject: | Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here |
goes
I've been flying behind the Cheetah for six months now - I've had a few
problems with the hardware but the company has always taken care of me. I
love everything it does - more than the 496 plus a huge screen.
Jeff Dalton
----- Original Message -----
From: "N395V" <Bearcat@bearcataviation.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:16 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here
goes
> <Bearcat@bearcataviation.com>
>
> http://www.bearcataviation.com/album_frame.asp?forum=open&menuID=6~6
>
> Not a lot of activity so far but it is the only dedicated to the flight
> cheetah forum out there.
>
>
> brinker(at)suddenlinkmail wrote:
>> Can you post a link to the Flight Cheetah forum. I think I
>> would like to sign up.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> > >
>> > > Also in the Flight Cheetah forum there iis a comparison of several
>> > > programs compared to truemap.
>> > >
>> > > The remotte moniter is a bit brighter than the Q1 ultra. The Q1 ultra
>> > > is
>> > > miles better than the old Q1.
>> > >
>> > > The Q1 Ultra is the most readable PC I have ever had in the cockpit.
>> > >
>> > > Milt
>> > >
>> > > --------
>> > > Milt
>> > > 2003 F1 Rocket
>> > > 2006 Radial Rocket
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> --------
> Milt
> 2003 F1 Rocket
> 2006 Radial Rocket
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154354#154354
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here |
goes
Thanks I just joined maybe we can stir it up a little and get some activity
going.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "N395V" <Bearcat@bearcataviation.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: An idea that is kind of out there but here
goes
> <Bearcat@bearcataviation.com>
>
> http://www.bearcataviation.com/album_frame.asp?forum=open&menuID=6~6
>
> Not a lot of activity so far but it is the only dedicated to the flight
> cheetah forum out there.
>
>
> brinker(at)suddenlinkmail wrote:
>> Can you post a link to the Flight Cheetah forum. I think I
>> would like to sign up.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> > >
>> > > Also in the Flight Cheetah forum there iis a comparison of several
>> > > programs compared to truemap.
>> > >
>> > > The remotte moniter is a bit brighter than the Q1 ultra. The Q1 ultra
>> > > is
>> > > miles better than the old Q1.
>> > >
>> > > The Q1 Ultra is the most readable PC I have ever had in the cockpit.
>> > >
>> > > Milt
>> > >
>> > > --------
>> > > Milt
>> > > 2003 F1 Rocket
>> > > 2006 Radial Rocket
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> --------
> Milt
> 2003 F1 Rocket
> 2006 Radial Rocket
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154354#154354
>
>
> --
> 12/25/2007 8:04 PM
>
>
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| Subject: | DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners |
I picked up a DMC Daniels AFM8 (M22520/2-01) crimper from E-bay for use in
crimping d-sub pins.
As I understand it, these are the positioners for the commonly found
avionics connectors:
K13-1 for standard D-sub pins (male and female).
K41 for HD D-sub female
K42 for HD D-sub male
The crimp tool I purchased came with a K1-S positioner. Does anyone happen
to know what this positioner is used for?
I have been through the Daniel's site and done quite a bit of searching and
have all the specs on the tool, but I'm just curious as to which application
the K1-S accessory is useful.
As for the positioners I still need, does anyone have a source to recommend?
I'll keep an eye on E-bay for a short while, but will probably end up buying
direct from Daniels unless someone has a better recommendation. All the
avionics shops I looked at sell the DMC tools for more than the DMC web
site.
Best Regards,
Patrick
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| Subject: | DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners |
We've probably been bidding against each other. :^) It seem there was a
rash of folks bidding on these and the AMP crimper after the class in
Columbus a couple weeks ago.
I purchased one over Ebay a couple weeks ago. I have a K13-1, but am
looking for the K41 and K42.
I noticed that the DMC site was considerably less than Stein or ACS too.
That's seems really odd to me. Usually Stein will sell for at least the
same as the vendor. I suspect the channel suppliers for the tools are not
competitive otherwise Stein would have had a similar pricing. I can't see
Stein selling a whole bunch of these, so I suspect he isn't getting great
discounts from the distributors.
If you find another source, let us know.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
ONeill
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:40 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners
<poneill@irealms.com>
I picked up a DMC Daniels AFM8 (M22520/2-01) crimper from E-bay for use in
crimping d-sub pins.
As I understand it, these are the positioners for the commonly found
avionics connectors:
K13-1 for standard D-sub pins (male and female).
K41 for HD D-sub female
K42 for HD D-sub male
The crimp tool I purchased came with a K1-S positioner. Does anyone happen
to know what this positioner is used for?
I have been through the Daniel's site and done quite a bit of searching and
have all the specs on the tool, but I'm just curious as to which application
the K1-S accessory is useful.
As for the positioners I still need, does anyone have a source to recommend?
I'll keep an eye on E-bay for a short while, but will probably end up buying
direct from Daniels unless someone has a better recommendation. All the
avionics shops I looked at sell the DMC tools for more than the DMC web
site.
Best Regards,
Patrick
__________ NOD32 2748 (20071227) Information __________
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| Subject: | Re: DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners |
At 16:40 12/26/2007, you wrote:
>The crimp tool I purchased came with a K1-S positioner. Does anyone happen
>to know what this positioner is used for?
Patrick,
I've got a ~3M pdf file that lists DMC tooling and pins. It's
searchable and there were 27 hits for K1S.
Don't remember where I got it and due to size I'm hesitant to post
for those on dial-up.
If you and your ISP's email system can handle the size, I'll fire it
off to you.
Ron Q.
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| Subject: | Re: DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners |
At 05:24 PM 12/26/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>
>At 16:40 12/26/2007, you wrote:
>
>>The crimp tool I purchased came with a K1-S positioner. Does anyone happen
>>to know what this positioner is used for?
>
>Patrick,
>I've got a ~3M pdf file that lists DMC tooling and pins. It's searchable
>and there were 27 hits for K1S.
>Don't remember where I got it and due to size I'm hesitant to post for
>those on dial-up.
>If you and your ISP's email system can handle the size, I'll fire it off
>to you.
>
>Ron Q.
Ron,
If you'll send me one, I'll post it to the website.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Compass Requirements in Experimental Aircraft (updated) |
Hi All,
Well its been kind of slow so I thought I would give a little update
regarding my research into whether or not a "wet" compass is required if
you have a EFIS with a remote external compass feeding a heading to it.
After much research and searching archives of all of the various
airplane groups that I belong to, I finally decided to just mount an
airpath compass on my glareshield and be done with it. I said to myself
- "no sense getting into a pissing match with the DAR over a $160
instrument, just put it in and forget it".
So I purchased the Airpath C2400 lighted compass. It arrived sometime
last week and over Christmas vacation, I finally got out to the airport
to see how it would work with my Bearhawk. I had heard that some people
were having as much as 30 degrees of installation errors in a Bearhawk
with a glareshield mounted compass.
So there I was standing beside my airplane which was pointed in a
generally northward direction. I held the compass out in front of me
and it read 358 degrees. I then reached inside and sat it on the
glareshield centered and as far back from the "V" tubes as I could. It
read "N" 360 degrees. PERFECT, only about 2 degrees off right???
WRONG!!!
I then grabbed the tail and swung it around to point the nose in a
generally south direction. Poked my head inside for a look at the
compass and . . . What's this???? It still says "N" 360 degrees!!! I
grabbed the compass out of the airplane and once again stood next to the
airplane and sure enough the compass now read 178 degrees. Put back on
the glare shield and . . . "N" 360 degrees.
So there I stood, scratching my head, thinking about what I had done to
cause what Erbman would call a "Gross Buffoonery". As I was standing
looking at things, I saw the problem. My lightening fast brain finally
figured out what I had done. When I mounted my XM satellite radio, I
didn't want to run the external antenna all the way outside so I had
simply mounted it up near the windshield right between the "V" braces.
The antenna has a strong magnet built in to allow it to stick to the
roof of your car. Of course it didn't stick to my aluminum boot cowl so
I had just double stick velcroed it in place.
The wire running from the antenna to the Xm radio on the right side of
the instrument panel was included in the main wiring harness and is well
wrapped within the bundle of wires running from the comm and intercom
system. Removing and replacing the XM satellite antenna would take a
long time laying on my back under the instrument panel cutting every tie
wrap I made.
So I decided to do what I should have done in the first place. I called
my DAR to ask him his opinion on the magnetic direction indicator in the
Dynon. I described the Dynon D100 EFIS with its remote magnetic compass
feeding heading information to the Dynon D100. He asked me again what I
was building. I said a Bearhawk. He said "That's Experimental right?"
I said "yes it is". He said "Well then, it falls under FAR part 91.205
which specifically says "Magnetic direction indicator" . He said as long
as the Dynon receives, and displays, a heading based on the Earth's
magnetic field, then it qualifies as a "magnetic heading indicator" as
required in Part 91.205 and he doesn't see why I would need an old
whiskey compass littering up my glareshield.
We talked a bit about redundency and when I told him about my battery
backup of the Dynon as well as a GPS with battery backup as well as a
handheld radio with a VOR indicator, he was more than satisfied.
So problem solved. I called Aircraft Spruce for an RMA number and as of
this morning, the compass is on its way back to Corona, CA and I'll have
a credit for it. Guess I could have saved some shipping $ by simply
calling the DAR first.
Lesson learned and shared.
Eric Newton - Long Beach, MS
BH #682- Mississippi Mudbug
BEARHAWK BUILDER'S MANUALS
http://mybearhawk.com
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| Subject: | DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners |
Please send me a copy also.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Quillin
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: DMC Daniels AFM8 - Positioners
At 16:40 12/26/2007, you wrote:
>The crimp tool I purchased came with a K1-S positioner. Does anyone happen
>to know what this positioner is used for?
Patrick,
I've got a ~3M pdf file that lists DMC tooling and pins. It's
searchable and there were 27 hits for K1S.
Don't remember where I got it and due to size I'm hesitant to post
for those on dial-up.
If you and your ISP's email system can handle the size, I'll fire it
off to you.
Ron Q.
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| Subject: | Re: Compass Requirements in Experimental Aircraft |
(updated)
Eric Newton wrote:
> So problem solved.
>
Good for you, Eric.
During the discussion, I promised to take a few pictures of my $9,
"ornamental" compass. I had taken the pictures, but never posted the
links. It turned out even better than I'd hoped.
http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Pictures/Compass.jpg
http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Pictures/CockpitFrontLeft.jpg
http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Pictures/CockpitFrontRight.jpg
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