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1. 06:27 AM - IFR GPS requirements ()
2. 08:39 AM - Changing Prop & FSDO ()
3. 08:49 AM - Re: IFR GPS requirements (glen matejcek)
4. 12:09 PM - Re: Alternator / Charging issue (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
5. 05:17 PM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 01/16/08 (Lee Logan)
6. 07:58 PM - Of Line for a week (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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Subject: | IFR GPS requirements |
1/18/2008
Hello Glen, You are absolutely correct and I apologize for that moment of
weakness when I wrote to just avoid the ignorant bureaucrat.
If we don't (politely) confront these people who are misusing their
position, either out of ignorance or ego, we will suffer further abuses down
the line.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: RE: IFR GPS requirements
Hi Bill et al-
Re: >Hello Bill, Avoid that poor soul -- he has not been around long
enough or
>cared enough to learn that type certificated aircraft and amateur built
>experimental aircraft are treated very differently in the FAA's paperwork
>system.
While I greatly appreciate and highly regard and respect the source of that
comment, I couldn't disagree more. If this inspector has run 50
unnecessary 337's through the system, he has cost a lot of people a lot of
money, spread misinformation across the system, and will no doubt cause
other improperly educated or motivated inspectors to take the
'conservative' (ignorant) route at our collective expense. In other words,
there has been a gross misuse of governmental power. These kinds of topics
have gone to DC and back via OSH, and we have the tools to correct the
problem you are facing.
My personal experience with an amateur built rule hose-up was to be very
(politely) clear with the person involved about the nature and basis for
our disconnect, and then call OSH with the details. Within 24 hours they
had achieved understanding with the head of the directorate involved, and
within another 24 the fed involved had been re-educated. That ended the
problem for me, and, presumably, everyone who came along after.
Also, the feds now have a program to handle customer service issues in
house. As I understand it, it's the equivalent of 'let me speak to your
supervisor', although I don't recall the precise terminology. Mike, can
you fill us in?
While I don't advocate getting into hostile conflicts with The Man, I
strongly urge you (and anyone else having bogus reg interpretation issues)
to fight the good fight with the resources we have developed and paid for
through our EAA dues and those gate fees at OSH we are all unhappy about.
Heck, Brian got a law in Jacksonville repealed with a little help from his
friends. What's one confused inspector?
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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Subject: | Changing Prop & FSDO |
1/18/2008
Hello Ron, You wrote:
1) "Another thing that the FSDO told me, even when an experimental aircraft
is sold and there is a new owner, along with the FAA registration records
update, the new owner needs to get a new Airworthiness Certificate with the
himself as the owner (the original builder info stays the same). He
mentioned that very few owners of experimental aircraft that they bought
from pervious owners know this,......"
I would venture that very few subsequent owners of amateur built
experimental aircraft do not know of this requirement because it is not
true.
2) ",,,,,,,,,, plus the FAA has this requirement too deeply hidden in the
regulations."
No matter how deeply hidden in the regulations this requirement may be it
has to be written down. I would dearly love for you to contact this gent and
find out just exactly where it is written so that we can read it for
ourselves. The FAA is not in the business of having secret regulations.
Many thanks.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronko" <ronko1@peoplepc.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Changing Prop & FSDO
Thanks for your response.
I called the local FSDO in West Chicago, Illinois, and they gave me the same
instructions that you outlined. Interesting set of responses from the
group.
Another thing that the FSDO told me, even when an experimental aircraft is
sold and there is a new owner, along with the FAA registration records
update, the new owner needs to get a new Airworthiness Certificate with the
himself as the owner (the original builder info stays the same). He
mentioned that very few owners of experimental aircraft that they bought
from pervious owners know this, plus the FAA has this requirement too deeply
hidden in the regulations. The guy that I talked to at the FSDO told me my
situation was not a problem. With the new prop process, I will get both
requirements met.
Thanks again for your feedback.
Best regards,
Ron
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Subject: | RE: IFR GPS requirements |
Hi O.C.-
Thanks for the feedback / response, O.C. It's always a nuisance to have to
go through this with bureaucrats, but we are the front line when it comes
to protecting our rights and interests.
Also, sorry about the spamblocker. It is very effective and protective.
I've told it to allow anything you should choose to send in the future, but
it has a bit of a mind of it's own. Should you send me something and get
one of those 'allowed sender requests' again, just ignore it. I'll still
get your note, albeit with a bit of a delay.
Best regards-
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
> [Original Message]
> From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
> To: <avionics-list@matronics.com>; <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>;
<aerobubba@earthlink.net>
> Date: 1/18/2008 9:24:31 AM
> Subject: IFR GPS requirements
>
> 1/18/2008
>
> Hello Glen, You are absolutely correct and I apologize for that moment of
> weakness when I wrote to just avoid the ignorant bureaucrat.
>
> If we don't (politely) confront these people who are misusing their
> position, either out of ignorance or ego, we will suffer further abuses
down
> the line.
>
> 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
> understand knowledge."
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: RE: IFR GPS requirements
>
>
> Hi Bill et al-
>
> Re: >Hello Bill, Avoid that poor soul -- he has not been around long
> enough or
> >cared enough to learn that type certificated aircraft and amateur built
> >experimental aircraft are treated very differently in the FAA's paperwork
> >system.
>
> While I greatly appreciate and highly regard and respect the source of
that
> comment, I couldn't disagree more. If this inspector has run 50
> unnecessary 337's through the system, he has cost a lot of people a lot of
> money, spread misinformation across the system, and will no doubt cause
> other improperly educated or motivated inspectors to take the
> 'conservative' (ignorant) route at our collective expense. In other
words,
> there has been a gross misuse of governmental power. These kinds of
topics
> have gone to DC and back via OSH, and we have the tools to correct the
> problem you are facing.
>
> My personal experience with an amateur built rule hose-up was to be very
> (politely) clear with the person involved about the nature and basis for
> our disconnect, and then call OSH with the details. Within 24 hours they
> had achieved understanding with the head of the directorate involved, and
> within another 24 the fed involved had been re-educated. That ended the
> problem for me, and, presumably, everyone who came along after.
>
> Also, the feds now have a program to handle customer service issues in
> house. As I understand it, it's the equivalent of 'let me speak to your
> supervisor', although I don't recall the precise terminology. Mike, can
> you fill us in?
>
> While I don't advocate getting into hostile conflicts with The Man, I
> strongly urge you (and anyone else having bogus reg interpretation issues)
> to fight the good fight with the resources we have developed and paid for
> through our EAA dues and those gate fees at OSH we are all unhappy about.
> Heck, Brian got a law in Jacksonville repealed with a little help from his
> friends. What's one confused inspector?
>
> glen matejcek
> aerobubba@earthlink.net
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Subject: | Re: Alternator / Charging issue |
At 10:50 AM 1/15/2008 -0600, you wrote:
><nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
>
>At 09:34 PM 1/14/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>
Steve,
I'm going on vacation tomorrow morning early. Didn't see
a response as to what kind of alternator we're trying
to troubleshoot.
Bob . . .
>>A while back my alternator decided to start cycling on and off every now
>>and again, mostly when under load. It will never do it during a day
>>flight, and only during the day when running strobes. I can induce it at
>>night fairly easily sometimes with the navs, fuel pump, landing light,
>>and panel lights (no strobes needed..they seem able to induce the problem
>>by themselves). I was returning from Miss. a few nights ago and it
>>decided to do this. I shut down the strobes and everything was fine (as
>>usual). I turned the strobes back on and the last 30 min or so of the
>>flight was uneventful.
>>
>>I installed a new B&C battery yesterday and the problem occurred again
>>yesterday evening 1 time near the beginning of the flight, and more so on
>>the ground after I landed and had the engine at idle power. I stayed in
>>the pattern since I had a "known" electrical issue.
>>
>>Here are few things I may have forgotten to mention, and I can't be sure
>>if this could be a cause of my problem.
>>
>>
>>2) I notice both my EI voltmeter as well as the Dynon (backup to my gyro
>>;) ) are reporting about 13.5V when in flight. I would assume this
>>should be around 14.5 or so. I think before this problem it did. Funny
>>the little things you start to notice when you actually have a problem.
>>
>>3) The main problem is that if under load, the system will "shut down"
>>the charging system intermittently and then come back online. Sometimes
>>in a rapid (5 secs or so) succession or sometimes in more erratic
>>unpredictable intervals. Like the flight back the other night, it acted
>>up then stayed online for the remainder of the flight. I'll see the
>>voltage annunciator come on and the voltage drop to 11.8 or 12...then it
>>will go back up to 13.5. It may stay for a while...the remainder of the
>>flight...or maybe 10 secs. It's crazy.
>>
>> I thought I had the alternator tested at one time and was told
>> it was fine.
>>
>>I also just replaced my main solenoid (it was going bad..wouldn't connect
>>when I turned the master on). That's fine now, but that didn't help the
>>problem either.
>>
>>This problem is driving me crazy. Any and all input would be appreciated.
>>
>>I'm almost convinced I'm never going to find the root if this
>>thing. Thanks again.
>
>
> I've never encountered a system problem that was not
> fixable.
>
> You don't say what kind of alternator. External or internally
> regulated?
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 01/16/08 |
Hernador: If no insult was intended, then none taken.
Semper Fi
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Subject: | Of Line for a week |
Dr. Dee and I are headed southeast tomorrow. A friend of
many years and a co-worker at Beech's Missiles Division
bought a condo in P.R. about 25 years ago when he was
having to spend many weeks working out of Roosevelt Roads
naval base to support target launches.
Nowadays, he and his wife spend three months in P.R.
every winter. They have proven generous and graceful
hosts to a number of the Missiles families. This will
be our second trip to take in the sights and snorkel
in some pretty amazing waters.
We'll be back on Sunday, Jan 27.
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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