---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/30/08: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:20 AM - Re: Aux power and the battery (Speedy11@aol.com) 2. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Aux power and the battery (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 09:40 AM - Adding to your bag of tricks . . . (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 4. 07:42 PM - Re: Splicing was (oddball 0.25" fast-on terminal source?) (BobsV35B@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:05 AM PST US From: Speedy11@aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Aux power and the battery Bob, A good thought, but I found that I needed the actual battery for making brackets and fitting into the airframe. There's nothing like having the actual battery when fitting and running wires. Stan Sutterfield Do not archive I've always recommended that builders not buy a new battery until the airplane was ready to fly. During construction phases, a lawn tractor battery and a plug-in-the-wall power supply would let you get everything running in the airplane without abusing a brand new flight-battery. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:28 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Aux power and the battery At 10:15 AM 3/30/2008 -0400, you wrote: >Bob, >A good thought, but I found that I needed the actual battery for making >brackets and fitting into the airframe. There's nothing like having the >actual battery when fitting and running wires. >Stan Sutterfield >Do not archive > > I've always recommended that builders not buy a new > battery until the airplane was ready to fly. During > construction phases, a lawn tractor battery and a > plug-in-the-wall power supply would let you get everything > running in the airplane without abusing a brand > new flight-battery. Sure, but what's wrong with making that the very last task you complete? Battery leads can be fabricated extra long and fitted with temporary terminals to mate with your shop battery. Space can be allocated for installation of the flight-battery's attach hardware. The long leads could even be long enough to reach outside the airplane so that the test battery and supporting charger can be on a cart or stand outside the airframe. Some folks consider last task before first flight to be a wash and wax job, why not make it a battery installation instead? Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:06 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Adding to your bag of tricks . . . I put new laminated hardwood flooring down in our house about a year ago. I added quite a pile of cut-offs and left over pieces to my pile of skunk-werks materials in the shop. In the interim I've found a number of instances where this material proved handy and quite capable to a variety of tasks. It's quite hard . . . almost machineable. I've used it to assemble small enclosures for electronics. At .320" thick the edges are wide enough to fabricate good glue joints for assembling. E6000 works good here. I've also drilled the edges to glue threaded metal spacers for attaching edge-on with machine screws. The wood grain finish is a bit quaint for enclosures but attractive and certainly resistant to scratches. IT IS FLOORING after all. I put the finishing touches on my junk box environmental chamber last night with this flooring. The chamber came without a top closure panel. http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Misc/Temperature_Chamber_1.jpg This picture was taken before the countersunk, flat-heads were installed to hold the lid on. It's quite rigid and will support any test equipment I might place on top. You can lock pieces of this stuff together (glue in the joints before final assembly) and make virtually any size flat sheet desired. Make sure it's well mated and laying absolutely flat while the glue dries. It's a bit heavy (1.5# sq/ft) but IT IS FLOORING after all. I use black magic marker to finish cut edges. It's hell-for-stout in longitudinal bending . . . obviously, glue joints are the weakest link for bending across the joints. I've used small scraps for various fixtures and as small parts in assemblies (like corner gussets). Stores like Big Lots carry boxes of this stuff at pretty attractive prices (avoid flooring with foam backing already bonded on). When my scrap pile no longer addresses my needs, I'll have no problem going out to buy another box just to cut up! Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:17 PM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Splicing was (oddball 0.25" fast-on terminal source?) In a message dated 3/26/2008 5:33:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hooverra@verizon.net writes: --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "RALPH HOOVER" Bob, Although I have been splicing wire for 45 years I prefer #1 no splices, #2 properly crimped gas tight connectors, or #3 strain relieved connections soldered to a terminal #4 would be a mid span splice. In most cases I will install a connector mid wire run if it may need to be broken for service, or ease of assembly. That said the fewer connections the less likelihood for failure. In the case of the alternator connector any splice adds mass that is hanging a few inches from the connector that then must be supported to prevent it moving in relation to the alternator and breaking the wiring. Yes it's doable but in keeping with KISS I just used the proper terminal as designed. And yes I did splice a few wires mid span in my project, no I didn't need to but I just got lazy and didn't want to pull a longer wire. They will outlast both me and the plane. No worries, the electrons don't know the difference. :) Thanks for all you do, we have all learned a lot. Ralph -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: oddball 0.25" fast-on terminal source? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" At 06:48 PM 3/25/2008 -0500, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "RALPH HOOVER" > >D, > I had the same issue and bought a roll of AMP tin plated for 18-22 >AWG wire. >DigiKey P/N A27933CT-ND >AMP P/N 60295-2 >If these will help send me your address off list and I will mail you a few. >I bought 100 and needed 3 :( I just couldn't think of butt splices on the >Alternator wires. Why butt splice? You can do a very compact, robust solder splice. See: http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Tech_Tips/Solder_Lap_Splicing/Solder_Lap_Sp lices.html Bob . . . **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. 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