AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Sun 06/29/08


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:09 AM - Re: LED Nav lights (Don Curry)
     2. 05:19 AM - Re: LED Nav lights (Harley)
     3. 05:47 AM - fuse placement (bob noffs)
     4. 07:03 AM - Re: fuse placement (Ron Shannon)
     5. 09:34 AM - Re: fuse placement (bob noffs)
     6. 11:36 AM - Re: fuse placement (Carlos Trigo)
     7. 12:01 PM - Subject: LED Nav lights (Joe & Jan Connell)
     8. 05:08 PM - Re: LED Nav lights (mikef)
     9. 05:12 PM - Re: LED Nav lights (mikef)
    10. 05:44 PM - Trutrak vs Trio PIREP (Jim McBurney)
    11. 06:39 PM - Re: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP (Robert Feldtman)
    12. 07:36 PM - Re: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:09:35 AM PST US
    From: "Don Curry" <currydon@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: LED Nav lights
    It doesn't look like the strobes in the Skybright lights are LED; in fact, I haven't found any sources for LED strobe lights. Does anybody know of a source for LED strobe lights? Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harley Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: AeroElectric-List: LED Nav lights I'm looking into replacing my old Whelen nav and Strobe lighting (A600...all in one type) for my Long EZ with LEDs. To save a little weight, of course, and for longer bulb life and to reduce my electron inventory. I've searched the archives, and have revisited all the sites mentioned here and in other lists in the past, but was curious about experiences that others have had with the brands mentioned. As well as any new manufacturers of LED navigation and strobe lights for my Long EZ similar to the physical configuration of the A600 series that haven't been mentioned yet. I'm currently leading toward Whelen's (an exact replacement for the A600, but a bit too pricey), and Skybrights ( www.airplanegear.com/skybright.htm ). Any other suggestions or comments are always welcome. Harley Dixon Long EZ N28EZ Canandaigua, NY


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    Time: 05:19:26 AM PST US
    From: Harley <harley@AgelessWings.com>
    Subject: Re: LED Nav lights
    Hi Don... Nope, my search hasn't shown any that use LEDs for strobes either. But the new strobe power supplies for the units like the Skybright weigh less than half what the Whelen that I have now does. That alone is worth it for me. However, there ARE LED strobes, but I don't see any for aviation use. They seem to need too many LEDs to produce enough light to replace that single bulb that regular strobes use. See: http://tinyurl.com/6ga3pw Harley ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don Curry wrote: > > It doesn't look like the /strobes/ in the Skybright lights are LED; in > fact, I haven't found any sources for LED _strobe_ lights. Does > anybody know of a source for LED strobe lights? > > Don > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of > *Harley > *Sent:* Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:21 AM > *To:* undisclosed-recipients: > *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: LED Nav lights > > > > I'm looking into replacing my old Whelen nav and Strobe lighting > (A600...all in one type) for my Long EZ with LEDs. To save a little > weight, of course, and for longer bulb life and to reduce my electron > inventory. > > I've searched the archives, and have revisited all the sites mentioned > here and in other lists in the past, but was curious about experiences > that others have had with the brands mentioned. As well as any new > manufacturers of LED navigation and strobe lights for my Long EZ > similar to the physical configuration of the A600 series that haven't > been mentioned yet. > > I'm currently leading toward Whelen's (an exact replacement for the > A600, but a bit too pricey), and Skybrights ( > www.airplanegear.com/skybright.htm > <http://www.airplanegear.com/skybright.htm> ). > > Any other suggestions or comments are always welcome. > > Harley Dixon > Long EZ N28EZ > Canandaigua, NY > > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > * * > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Agelesswings certifies that no virus is in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. >


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    Time: 05:47:20 AM PST US
    From: "bob noffs" <icubob@newnorth.net>
    Subject: fuse placement
    ron, thanks for the feedback. i guess it was an obvious answer that i took into account 2 yrs ago and now didnt think about it as i was sorting thru my work. surprising how often i have to look at the 100 pics i took of the firewall in '06 before i can reassemble anything! bob noffs


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    Time: 07:03:42 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Shannon" <rshannon@CRUZCOM.COM>
    Subject: Re: fuse placement
    Bob, Well, at least you have the pictures. The trouble here is that when I'm taking pictures, I often think "Aha, this shot will show this or that brilliantly conceived detail item, and I'll write it up in the description right away." Of course, I don't get around to completing the caption, and a couple weeks later, I've no clue why I even took the picture. :-) The answer to fuse location may not always be obvious though. The circuit should be fused "early" so that little if any of the wire is exposed to the possibility of live shorts (from impact, chafe, overload, etc.) occurring before the fuse, leaving a sparking wire end. For example, I have a roughly 6 ft. total run between a low current (10A) external ground power jack and the battery bus (through diode, OVP, etc.) The source of power on that circuit could be either end. Solution? A fuse on each end, one on the battery bus fuse block, and another inline fuse at the jack. BTW, I was curious why you chose to fuse the main bus feed itself, presumably in addition to fuses/breakers on individual device circuits. The Z figure schematics don't fuse the main bus feed because it would be a single point of failure for everything, unless you also have an E-bus with alternate feed and even then, an EFIS or GPS on the E-bus would "reboot" before you turn on the E-bus alt feed (if they don't have independent backup batteries.) It's a trade off, of course. You have added some fire protection, but at the cost of a single point of failure, no? Ron On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:43 AM, bob noffs <icubob@newnorth.net> wrote: > ron, > thanks for the feedback. i guess it was an obvious answer that i took into > account 2 yrs ago and now didnt think about it as i was sorting thru my > work. surprising how often i have to look at the 100 pics i took of the > firewall in '06 before i can reassemble anything! > bob noffs >


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    Time: 09:34:41 AM PST US
    From: "bob noffs" <icubob@newnorth.net>
    Subject: Re: fuse placement
    hi ron, yes, i have a single point of failure for my main bus but i thought it more important to protect that fairly hefty wire from shorting. if i lose all elect. to my cabin i guess i will land in the next hour. a shorted wire would really limit my options. i fly only day vfr so this works for me. i have hundreds of pics where i didnt even have a subject in mind. i just shot. every angle i can. then when i go back to my pics i usually get lucky and find just what i am looking for! bob noffs ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Shannon To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: fuse placement Bob, Well, at least you have the pictures. The trouble here is that when I'm taking pictures, I often think "Aha, this shot will show this or that brilliantly conceived detail item, and I'll write it up in the description right away." Of course, I don't get around to completing the caption, and a couple weeks later, I've no clue why I even took the picture. :-) The answer to fuse location may not always be obvious though. The circuit should be fused "early" so that little if any of the wire is exposed to the possibility of live shorts (from impact, chafe, overload, etc.) occurring before the fuse, leaving a sparking wire end. For example, I have a roughly 6 ft. total run between a low current (10A) external ground power jack and the battery bus (through diode, OVP, etc.) The source of power on that circuit could be either end. Solution? A fuse on each end, one on the battery bus fuse block, and another inline fuse at the jack. BTW, I was curious why you chose to fuse the main bus feed itself, presumably in addition to fuses/breakers on individual device circuits. The Z figure schematics don't fuse the main bus feed because it would be a single point of failure for everything, unless you also have an E-bus with alternate feed and even then, an EFIS or GPS on the E-bus would "reboot" before you turn on the E-bus alt feed (if they don't have independent backup batteries.) It's a trade off, of course. You have added some fire protection, but at the cost of a single point of failure, no? Ron On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:43 AM, bob noffs <icubob@newnorth.net> wrote: ron, thanks for the feedback. i guess it was an obvious answer that i took into account 2 yrs ago and now didnt think about it as i was sorting thru my work. surprising how often i have to look at the 100 pics i took of the firewall in '06 before i can reassemble anything! bob noffs


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    Time: 11:36:56 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: fuse placement
    hi bob Is it your keyboard that lost its "shift" key, or do you really hate to hit it? Couldn't resist :-) Carlos Do not archive Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: fuse placement hi ron, yes, i have a single point of failure for my main bus but i thought it more important to protect that fairly hefty wire from shorting. if i lose all elect. to my cabin i guess i will land in the next hour. a shorted wire would really limit my options. i fly only day vfr so this works for me. i have hundreds of pics where i didnt even have a subject in mind. i just shot. every angle i can. then when i go back to my pics i usually get lucky and find just what i am looking for! bob noffs


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    Time: 12:01:12 PM PST US
    From: "Joe & Jan Connell" <jconnell@fmwildblue.com>
    Subject: LED Nav lights
    Try http://www.kestrobes.com/ Kunztleman Electronics has lighting for ultralights, LSA, and experimental aircraft. I have no financial involvement with the company... Joe Connell RV-9A N95JJ Subject: AeroElectric-List: LED Nav lights I'm looking into replacing my old Whelen nav and Strobe lighting (A600...all in one type) for my Long EZ with LEDs. To save a little weight, of course, and for longer bulb life and to reduce my electron inventory. I've searched the archives, and have revisited all the sites mentioned here and in other lists in the past, but was curious about experiences that others have had with the brands mentioned. As well as any new manufacturers of LED navigation and strobe lights for my Long EZ similar to the physical configuration of the A600 series that haven't been mentioned yet. I'm currently leading toward Whelen's (an exact replacement for the A600, but a bit too pricey), and Skybrights ( www.airplanegear.com/skybright.htm ). Any other suggestions or comments are always welcome. Harley Dixon Long EZ N28EZ Canandaigua, NY


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    Time: 05:08:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: LED Nav lights
    From: "mikef" <mikefapex@gmail.com>
    check out www.aveousa.net ,they seem to have a combo Navigation Light and LED strobe light. Never seen or used on but it looks promising. I have the aeroled landing light, with built in wig-wag for my nose/landing light. Works great, bright as heck! http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/aeroLEDs.php Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190467#190467


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    Time: 05:12:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: LED Nav lights
    From: "mikef" <mikefapex@gmail.com>
    Just found this on the aveousa.net website. http://aveoengineering.com/download/aveoflash1.mov Looks pretty nice. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190468#190468


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    Time: 05:44:36 PM PST US
    From: "Jim McBurney" <jmcburney@pobox.com>
    Subject: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP
    Hello, list, I'm agonizing over my decision for a single axis autopilot/backup T&B in an all-electric panel. Does anyone have any experience, yay or nay, with either the Trutrak Pictoral Pilot or the Trio EZPilot. If so, please share it with me, either on this list or via direct email. Thanks Blue skies and tailwinds Jim CH-801 DeltaHawk diesel Augusta GA 90% done, 90% left


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    Time: 06:39:00 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Feldtman" <bobf@feldtman.com>
    Subject: Re: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP
    My Trio is fantastic. Easy to install - works as advertised. Great support from Trio when I encountered GPS NMEA data stream issues coming from the radio - they were fully supportive. My friend has a Trutrak in his Cozy. He had to take it to an avionics shop to get it squared away, but he says it works fine. I haven't flown with it. bobf On 6/29/08, Jim McBurney <jmcburney@pobox.com> wrote: > > jmcburney@pobox.com> > > Hello, list, > > I'm agonizing over my decision for a single axis autopilot/backup T&B in an > all-electric panel. Does anyone have any experience, yay or nay, with > either the Trutrak Pictoral Pilot or the Trio EZPilot. If so, please share > it with me, either on this list or via direct email. > > Thanks > > Blue skies and tailwinds > > Jim > CH-801 > DeltaHawk diesel > Augusta GA > 90% done, 90% left > >


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    Time: 07:36:49 PM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP
    Can't speak from personal experience regarding the Trio, but I've heard from several users they are very happy with them. My own experience with TruTrak stuff is on an RV and several Jabirus, two completely different platforms. Both worked beautifully. And FWIW, I recently spent some time at TruTrak Central in Springdale AR while Younkin & Co. configured an installation on a new Jabiru- these folks are tenacious regarding getting it right, and the result was absolutely deceased testicles. Damn impressive... Mark **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)




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