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1. 05:45 AM - Re: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP (Michael W Stewart)
2. 07:06 AM - Re: Dimmer trick ()
3. 07:08 AM - Re: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP ()
4. 09:09 AM - Long EZ LED Navigation Lighting Results (Harley)
5. 09:30 AM - Re: TruTrak ADI (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
6. 12:03 PM - Re: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP (Michael W Stewart)
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP |
Jim,
I have experience with both.
I find the features of the Trio more advanced and the folks easy to wor
k
with.
Ive got thousands of hours in RV's behind auto pilots. The Trio has the
best feature set and price point.
You wont be disappointed with either. I choose Trio for the reasons abo
ve
plus service and support.
Best,
Mike
"Jim McBurney"
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Hello, list,
I'm agonizing over my decision for a single axis autopilot/backup T&B i
n an
all-electric panel. Does anyone have any experience, yay or nay, with
either the Trutrak Pictoral Pilot or the Trio EZPilot. If so, please s
hare
it with me, either on this list or via direct email.
Thanks
Blue skies and tailwinds
Jim
CH-801
DeltaHawk diesel
Augusta GA
90% done, 90% left
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Matt,
I did some checking against the diagram which provides very
ambiguous instructions based on the 9 pin connector. I had one of the
potentiometer wires switched with the power lead. All better now.
Thanks
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Dimmer trick
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Sounds like the devices on the bus are drawing a smaller amount of
current than the dimmer circuit was intended to control. If you're only
driving LED's and the dimmer circuit was designed to support
incandescent bulbs, I could see this happening.
It could be something as simple as being at the end of the range for the
potentiometer (the thing the knob is controlling) in the dimmer circuit.
If this is the case, you might swap the pot for one with a more
appropriate range (lower peak resistance). Or possibly you can put a
bypass resistor across the pot - while still getting adequately dark.
Or, swap out some of those super efficient LED's for a couple of
hog-heater light bulbs. :)
You could talk with B&C about what to do - product support.. It would
be a bit surprising if they haven't run into this before.
Regards,
Matt-
> I have another dimmer question that can be described in the same
> thread. Last night I installed the B & C 1.5 A dimmer which went off
> as described in the instructions.
>
> After adding power, my panel dimmed as expected but the dimmer knob
> control (rheostat) seems to have very limited variability. Turning the
> knob all the way left turns off the panel lights as expected. Turning
> it very slowly for the first 1/8 inch turns the lights from completely
> off to everything in between and then full on. How can I modify the
> sensitivity such that the dimming effect works throughout the full
> range of the dimmer switch?
>
> Glenn
>
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> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Laurence
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:25 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Dimmer trick
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> Carlos,
>
>
> Try this site.
>
>
> http://www.a-and-t-labs.com/products.htm
>
>
> Peter
>
> RV9A N60PL
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>
> ________________________________
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> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Carlos Trigo
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:08 AM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Dimmer trick
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>
> Listers
>
>
> I completed my instrument lights circuit, in which I have a
dimmer,
> and all works OK.
>
> Nevertheless, when I tested it at night (still at my garage) I
> noticed that there are a couple of instruments (e.g. the Trutrak ADI)
> which have a brighter light than the others, and obviously the single
> dimmer, operating all lights simultaneously, doesn't get me an optimal
> dimming position for all lights at the same time.
>
>
> Is there a trick to obtain similar brightness in all lights?
>
> Can that be achieved by simply installing resistors in the
brighter
> ones?
>
>
> Carlos
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| Subject: | Trutrak vs Trio PIREP |
Have you thought about the Dynon AP? Appears to blow the others away in
terms of value. Much as they have done with their EFIS.
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Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:41 AM
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Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Trutrak vs Trio PIREP
Jim,
I have experience with both.
I find the features of the Trio more advanced and the folks easy
to work with.
Ive got thousands of hours in RV's behind auto pilots. The Trio
has the best feature set and price point.
You wont be disappointed with either. I choose Trio for the
reasons above plus service and support.
Best,
Mike
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Hello, list,
I'm agonizing over my decision for a single axis
autopilot/backup T&B in an
all-electric panel. Does anyone have any experience, yay or
nay, with
either the Trutrak Pictoral Pilot or the Trio EZPilot. If so,
please share
it with me, either on this list or via direct email.
Thanks
Blue skies and tailwinds
Jim
CH-801
DeltaHawk diesel
Augusta GA
90% done, 90% left
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| Subject: | Long EZ LED Navigation Lighting Results |
As always, this group is great! I want to thank everyone for their
replies to my question about LED navigation and position lights.
And to make it easier for someone in the future (or today's lurker) to
research the same question, I thought I'd list the results I got
here...all in one place.
As far as my own decision, I haven't made it yet, as it is a toss up, so
far, between the lowest price, and most recommended, Skybrights that
require a separate strobe power supply, or the slightly higher priced,
relatively new military rated, AveoFlash that are 100% LED...no strobe
power supply needed.
Today, I am preparing a listing for eBay for the Whelen lights that I
currently have. They will be going on eBay this Saturday evening. I
guess the choice of new lighting will depend on how much I get for the
Whelens.
Currently, I am leaning toward the Slovakian made AveoFlash
( www.aveousa.net/avsetoftwona.html ), unless I hear a good reason why
not. They also received only good reviews from a number of you listers.
Besides...they are on sale! (Don't let my ex wife know <G>)
Harley Dixon
Long EZ N28EZ
Hangar 29, Airport
Canandaigua, NY
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All but the Aveo flash need a separate power supply for the strobe.
The lowest price is the Skybright (or the Kitplane article).
The highest price is the Whelen.
The only fully LED is the Slovakian AveoFlash.
In order of number of recommendations:
Skybrights:
http://www.airplanegear.com/skybright.htm
Kuntzleman:
www.KEstrobes.com <http://www.kestrobes.com/>
AveoFlash:
www.aveousa.net
GS-air:
http://tinyurl.com/43fqfh
RST has started and article by Jim Weir in Kitplanes
Whelen:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/1105646.php
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I came in on the tail end of this but..
First off if your VFR only then any trutrak..pictorial pilot or ADI is way
more thn you need..I mean..look out the window.
If your IFR then you really should think about backups. (yes way more than
certified spam cans have been doing for 50 years)..In my case in the RV 7 I
have a Dynon D100 (battery backed up) as my primary flight instrument. The
n I have a pictorial pilot and a simple ALtrak (altitude hold)..I personall
y like seperating the autopilots this way.
I also make a point of using the Pictorial pilot as the turn rate...that wa
y i automatically scan between both intruments...
If the Dynon goes down the Pictorial pilot is perfectly adequate for flying
in IMC..In fact I would simpply engage the autopilot
This set up works great for instrument flying and VFR cross country George
(the autopilots) do all the flying.
Frank
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: TruTrak ADI
Dennis, Dennis, and Mike,
Thanks very much for your user reports. The instrument does offer great val
ue, but now I'm not sure it is what I want. The Tru Trak ADI has a novel wa
y of helping the pilot hold proper attitude in IMC. Supposedly there are hu
man factors studies indicating that it is a better way than just the tradit
ional horizon indicator. From what I can see, though, the device is simply
putting in one convenient unit the turn coordinator , vertical speed indica
tor and GPS track....devices I already have on my panel. I think the sugges
tion to fly one first hand is the way to go for me because I'm being old fa
shioned and believing I will miss the true attitude indicator.
--Jose
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| Subject: | Trutrak vs Trio PIREP |
"Appears"? You have hit a key word. I dont do "appears." Im afraid
they(Dynon) are way behind the AP curve. Where the other providers have
been doing it for years, Dynon is new to the field. Hardly months old.
This
presents several problems for folks wanting to get going in an AP. I do
not
recommend newcomers until they have proven themselves in the field. Dyn
on
does not have pitch in the game yet to the best of my knowledge. They s
till
have far to go to even make the table stakes in my game. Frankly I don'
t
consider them even a player yet.
Mike
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Have you thought about the Dynon AP? Appears to blow the others away in
terms of value. Much as they have done with their EFIS.
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Jim,
I have experience with both.
I find the features of the Trio more advanced and the folks easy
to
work with.
Ive got thousands of hours in RV's behind auto pilots. The Trio h
as
the best feature set and price point.
You wont be disappointed with either. I choose Trio for the reaso
ns
above plus service and support.
Best,
Mike
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Hello, list,
I'm agonizing over my decision for a single axis autopilot/backup
T&B
in an
all-electric panel. Does anyone have any experience, yay or nay,
with
either the Trutrak Pictoral Pilot or the Trio EZPilot. If so, pl
ease
share
it with me, either on this list or via direct email.
Thanks
Blue skies and tailwinds
Jim
CH-801
DeltaHawk diesel
Augusta GA
90% done, 90% left
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