---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/22/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:53 AM - Re: Z13/8 Aux Alternator Fuselink (Jeff Page) 2. 09:12 AM - Brand New Apple iphone 3g 16gb,Nokia n96,Backbarry (alexelectronics) 3. 09:14 AM - For Sale Laptops IBM,SONY VAIO P4 LAPTOP,TOSHIBA P4 LAPTOP: (alexelectronics) 4. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: Z13/8 Aux Alternator Fuselink (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 5. 09:56 AM - Re: Brand New Apple iphone 3g 16gb,Nokia n96,Backbarry (S. Ramirez) 6. 10:13 AM - Re: Brand New Apple iphone 3g 16gb,Nokia n96,Backbarry (Richard Girard) 7. 05:14 PM - Re: Re: Kitplanes article on an Elegant LED driver (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 8. 05:29 PM - Kitplanes article on an Elegant LED driver (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:24 AM PST US From: "Jeff Page" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Z13/8 Aux Alternator Fuselink > Depending on the chart . . . 14AWG is good for 15A in > a 10C rise design . . . see below . . . I would have expected all the charts to be the same. Measuring temperature rise versus current should be an easily repeatable experiment. I suppose the result landed midway between practical values, so some folks rounded up and others rounded down ? > In the case of using wire for fusible links, the > fusible part is short . . . so it contributes little > to overall voltage drop. We allow it to run a bit > hotter to keep the wire size as small as practical > (faster acting fuse for hard faults). In the cases > you cited, 20AWG is at least 4 AWG steps smaller than > 14, in fact it's 6 steps for an even faster fusing > characteristic. Actually, you COULD use 22AWG for > this fusible link if you wanted. See: The Connection suggests 4 awg smaller as a typical size for fuselinks. Z13/8 is using 6 awg smaller. I understand the tradeoff between a fuselink that blows quickly when needed versus temperature rise in normal use. So is 6 awg smaller a better rule of thumb ? Or is there a particular temperature rise that would be a good point to select instead ? Thanks ! Jeff Page Dream Aircraft Tundra #10 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:19 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Brand New Apple iphone 3g 16gb,Nokia n96,Backbarry From: "alexelectronics" Company Name - Alex Electronics Reg:No.00078717 Address: 21 OAK ROAD, HALE, ALTRINCHAM, CHESHIRE, WA15 9JA Incorporation Date: 10-04-1995 Contact#: +447035933744 e-mail alex.electronics@hotmail.com alexelectronics@technologist.com Alex Electronics Ltd is a specialized supplier of Mobile phones (GSM and CDMA),Video Games ,Apple Ipods , Iphone , HTC, Nokia / Sony Ericsson/Samsung/Motorola/Side Kicks.Laptops, computers, LCD, plasma T.v, Games and many more With high quality products, best service and good reputation, All products are brand new ( mobiles/unlocked ) factory sealed with original packets and complete accessory. Moreover, we also offer all kinds of international brand OEM/ODM service. 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RETURN POLICY **************************** You may return the item within {30} days of delivery.Products with Manufacturer Warranty which exceed 40 days,could be returned directly to the manufacturer according instructions. For inquiry and order placement please contacts below. e-mail alex.electronics@hotmail.com alexelectronics@technologist.com Reg:No.00078717 Contact Person: Mr Alex Krieger If you wish for any product not listed here please email us the product Brand Name and Model and i will source it from our warehouse. -------- alexelectronics Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5512#205512 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:44 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Z13/8 Aux Alternator Fuselink At 10:51 AM 9/22/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >> Depending on the chart . . . 14AWG is good for 15A in >> a 10C rise design . . . see below . . . > >I would have expected all the charts to be the same. Measuring >temperature rise versus current should be an easily repeatable >experiment. I suppose the result landed midway between practical >values, so some folks rounded up and others rounded down ? All charts ARE the same . . . i.e. based on some temperature rise driven by design goals. In other words, all 10C charts will be the same, 20C charts will agree, etc. If you're interested in viewing the full constellation of all charts, take a peek at the wire sizing exercises described in http://www.aeroelectric.com/Reference_Docs/FAA/AC43.13-1B_Ch11_Electrical.pdf >> In the case of using wire for fusible links, the >> fusible part is short . . . so it contributes little >> to overall voltage drop. We allow it to run a bit >> hotter to keep the wire size as small as practical >> (faster acting fuse for hard faults). In the cases >> you cited, 20AWG is at least 4 AWG steps smaller than >> 14, in fact it's 6 steps for an even faster fusing >> characteristic. Actually, you COULD use 22AWG for >> this fusible link if you wanted. See: > >The Connection suggests 4 awg smaller as a typical size for fuselinks. > Z13/8 is using 6 awg smaller. I understand the tradeoff between a >fuselink that blows quickly when needed versus temperature rise in >normal use. So is 6 awg smaller a better rule of thumb ? Or is there >a particular temperature rise that would be a good point to select >instead ? Your thumb is different than my thumb. Not trying to be obtuse here. I'm just pointing out the fact that there's a huge range of combinations that (1) do not offer excessive voltage drop - depending on your quantification of "excessive" and (2) do not put the wire's insulation at risk due to maximum anticipated continuous current, ambient temperature, and relative insulation from ambient due to bundling. I believe the major idea here is that it's probably not worth your productive $time$ to worry about it much. If you're wanting to acquire a more academic understanding, then the task before you is significant. You can start with AC43-13 and I can offer some other references. I made my recommendations knowing that the combination suggested was well inside the edges of the voltage-drop/temperature-rise envelope. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:19 AM PST US From: "S. Ramirez" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Brand New Apple iphone 3g 16gb,Nokia n96,Backbarry Please, Bob, shut this stuff down. I get enough crap from other sources already. Simon Copyright 2008 -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of alexelectronics Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Brand New Apple iphone 3g 16gb,Nokia n96,Backbarry Company Name - Alex Electronics Reg:No.00078717 Address: 21 OAK ROAD, HALE, ALTRINCHAM, CHESHIRE, WA15 9JA Incorporation Date: 10-04-1995 Contact#: +447035933744 e-mail alex.electronics@hotmail.com alexelectronics@technologist.com Alex Electronics Ltd is a specialized supplier of Mobile phones (GSM and CDMA),Video Games ,Apple Ipods , Iphone , HTC, Nokia / Sony Ericsson/Samsung/Motorola/Side Kicks.Laptops, computers, LCD, plasma T.v, Games and many more With high quality products, best service and good reputation, All products are brand new ( mobiles/unlocked ) factory sealed with original packets and complete accessory. 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I get enough crap from other sources > already. > > Simon > Copyright (c) 2008 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > alexelectronics > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:10 PM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Brand New Apple iphone 3g 16gb,Nokia > n96,Backbarry > > > > Company Name - Alex Electronics > Reg:No.00078717 > Address: 21 OAK ROAD, HALE, ALTRINCHAM, > CHESHIRE, WA15 9JA > Incorporation Date: 10-04-1995 > Contact#: +447035933744 > > e-mail > alex.electronics@hotmail.com > alexelectronics@technologist.com > > Alex Electronics Ltd is a specialized supplier of Mobile phones (GSM and > CDMA),Video Games ,Apple Ipods , Iphone , HTC, Nokia / Sony > Ericsson/Samsung/Motorola/Side Kicks.Laptops, computers, LCD, plasma T.v, > Games and many more With high quality products, best service and good > reputation, All products are brand new 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Display $700 > ---------------------- > SAMSUNG PLASMA TV > ----------------------- > SAMSUNG HPP3761 Plasma TV $610 > Samsung PPM42M5S Plasma Display $505 > Samsung SPP4251 Plasma TV $700 > Samsung PPM42M5H Plasma Display $550 > Samsung HPR4252 Plasma $680 > Samsung HPR5052 Plasma $670 > Samsung HPR5072 Plasma $780 > ---------------------- > HITACHI PLASMA TV > ---------------------- > Hitachi CMP4211u Plasma $850 > Hitachi CMP4212u Plasma $350 > Hitachi 42HDF52 Plasma HDTV $400 > Hitachi 42HDT52 Plasma TV $440 > Hitachi 55HDS52 Plasma HDTV $480 > AOC ENVISION PLASMA TV > AOC Envision A42W64 Plasma $400 > MAXENT PLASMA TV > Maxent MX-42VM7 Plasma EDTV $370 > Maxent MX-50X2 Plasma $300 > GAME CONSOLE > ----------- > warranty > ----------- > > 1 year international warranty. Free shipping for bulk purchase : 100% > FedEx, > DHL or UPS > > delivery guarantee :2 days maximum. > OUR POLICY > ************************ > Our services and terms are base on customers relationship and trust for > effective and long term business relationship. > RETURN POLICY > **************************** > You may return the item within {30} days of > delivery.Products with Manufacturer Warranty which > exceed 40 days,could be returned directly to the > manufacturer according instructions. > > For inquiry and order placement please contacts below. > > e-mail > alex.electronics@hotmail.com > alexelectronics@technologist.com > Reg:No.00078717 > Contact Person: Mr Alex Krieger > We have many brand product not listed above.If you wish for any product n ot > listed here > > please email us the product Brand Name and Model and we shall source it > out. > > -------- > alexelectronics > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5511#205511 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:57 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Kitplanes article on an Elegant LED driver At 04:53 AM 9/16/2008 -0700, you wrote: > >Bob, > >Have not received the driver board yet. Is it lost or ??? > >Thanks, > >Brian Chesteen > >DO NOT ARCHIVE I was hoping I could get into the lab and look at DO-160 conducted . . . it's not in the stars this week. Shoot me an address to mail it to. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:22 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Kitplanes article on an Elegant LED driver Here's the data package on the filtered Buck Puck prototype. http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Lighting/Buck-Puck/ I was hoping I could get into the lab and look at DO-160 conducted . . . it's not in the stars this week. Shoot me an address to mail it to. 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