Today's Message Index:
----------------------
0. 12:15 AM - Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
1. 07:27 AM - Re: Fast-On Tabs and Soldering (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 10:13 AM - Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 10:20 AM - Re: Heavy Duty E-Bis Diode (Henry Trzeciakowski)
4. 10:31 AM - Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration (Sam Hoskins)
5. 10:46 AM - Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration (Joe Ronco)
6. 11:41 AM - Re: Re: Heavy Duty E-Bis Diode (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 11:57 AM - Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: Heavy Duty E-Bis Diode (Henry Trzeciakowski)
9. 03:15 PM - Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration (Sam Hoskins)
10. 04:23 PM - RFI problem (Tom Barter)
11. 05:27 PM - Re: RFI problem (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 06:03 PM - Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration (Joe Ronco)
Message 0
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution |
Today!
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
(Please write your email address on the check!)
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Fast-On Tabs and Soldering |
Good advice Bill. I would remind all of our
readers that tools are not just about convenience.
I'm presently reorganizing and concentrating
my family's business ventures in Medicine Lodge, KS.
Some days I am overwhelmed by the numbers and variety
of tools we need to inventory, sort and organize to
make them most useful. When the shops are finally
in place, we'll be doing home repairs, locksmithing,
HVAC, electronics development and manufacturing, just
to name the top activities. These things can be
accomplished by a very small group of folks only because
we have the tools and are willing to grow our talents
in their application.
Tools give you options. Solder is best sometimes,
crimping is best some times. Unless you acquire the tools
to do both, you have no options but to do the one thing.
In the final analysis, tools go directly to the best use
of $time$ and the level of craftsmanship in the finished
product.
It's sometimes hard to see a return on investment for
having acquired a tool. But take it from one who is up to his
eyeballs in tools . . . you won't regret having done it! We
have spent several thousand dollars outfitting the HVAC side
of the house. Those tools will be paid for in our first change-
out job. A job that would not even be possible without the
tools.
Bob . . .
At 10:22 PM 11/26/2008, you wrote:
>Dave, do yourself a favor,...get the tools. They are very cheap in
>the overall scheme of things, will make your work quicker and
>probably cleaner as well. You can crimp connectors on in lots of
>places that you would never get at easily with a soldering gun. Do
>solder splices if you get the chance. The look good, and are trim and clean.
>
>The fast-on crimper tool falls in the same category as band saws,
>hemostats, side cutters, wire strippers, angle drill attachments,
>rivet fan guides, scotch bright wheels on a bench grinder, air
>drills, and center punches. You can do without any or all of them
>but you will do it better, faster, and cleaner with good "mechanical
>help". The cost of good tools is really nothing in the overall cost
>of the plane and you can probably get at least 50% back when you
>sell them after finishing.
>
>Good luck
>
>Bill S
>7a finishing
>
>
>----------
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>Dave VanLanen
>Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:17 AM
>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Subject: AeroElectric-List: Fast-On Tabs and Soldering
>
>Chapter 9 of the 'Connection discusses the tradeoffs between
>soldered and crimped connections, and suggests that for those who do
>not want to invest in crimp-on terminals and associated tools,
>soldering is acceptable and possibly preferable for use on
>airplanes. This chapter goes on to explain the proper method for
>soldering and heat-shrinking ring terminals to wire. However, a
>solder method for fast-on tabs is not addressed. Since some
>electrical components come with male fast-on tabs, it is necessary
>to terminate some wires with female fast-on tabs. Do I still need
>to invest in the crimp-on terminals and associated tools to do
>fast-on tabs, or is there a method and terminal type for soldering
>fast-on tabs as well, and if so, is there any documentation on this?
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration |
At 01:19 PM 11/25/2008, you wrote:
>I called B&C and wound up talking to Bill Bainbridge about their
>S700-2-11 switch configuration. This is listed as ON-ON-OFF. He
>confessed that he didn't have any info on it and referred me to Bob.
>
>Is there a link that shows this switch?
>
>Thanks.
2-11? Where did you see this? I'm not
familiar with that configuration. My 1 dash
and 2 dash numbers for the S700 series
switches first from AEC and then from B&C
was developed from the Honeywell-Microswitch
numbering conventions shown in.
http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Switches/Microswitch_TL-Series.pdf
There are no dash 11 configurations.
Bob . . .
Bob . . .
----------------------------------------)
( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
----------------------------------------
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty E-Bis Diode |
Bob:
I'm putting together my Relay and just noticed that your Z 32 diagram for
the Heavy Duty E-Bus relay uses a IN4001 Diode. When I ordered my relay
from B&C a month or 2 ago, they supplied me with the IN5400 Diode which
corresponds to their diagram.....
My question is: Is it critical that I use the IN4001 Diode for my Heavy
Duty E-Bus configuration or can I use the 5400?
Thanks
Henry
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration |
This switch is listed on the B&C site. See if this link works
http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?11X358218#s700-1-1
Go about 9 panels down. It is called out as a S700-2-11.
Bill didn't know what it was. Maybe it's a typo.
Sam
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@cox.net> wrote:
> nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
>
> At 01:19 PM 11/25/2008, you wrote:
>
>> I called B&C and wound up talking to Bill Bainbridge about their S700-2-11
>> switch configuration. This is listed as ON-ON-OFF. He confessed that he
>> didn't have any info on it and referred me to Bob.
>>
>> Is there a link that shows this switch?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> 2-11? Where did you see this? I'm not
> familiar with that configuration. My 1 dash
> and 2 dash numbers for the S700 series
> switches first from AEC and then from B&C
> was developed from the Honeywell-Microswitch
> numbering conventions shown in.
>
> http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Switches/Microswitch_TL-Series.pdf
>
> There are no dash 11 configurations.
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ----------------------------------------)
> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
> ( appearance of being right . . . )
> ( )
> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
> ----------------------------------------
>
>
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration |
BOB: See Page 15 in the B&C catalog.
http://www.bandcspecialty.com/2008_Catalog_20pg_sm.pdf
Joe R
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration
<nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
At 01:19 PM 11/25/2008, you wrote:
>I called B&C and wound up talking to Bill Bainbridge about their
>S700-2-11 switch configuration. This is listed as ON-ON-OFF. He
>confessed that he didn't have any info on it and referred me to Bob.
>
>Is there a link that shows this switch?
>
>Thanks.
2-11? Where did you see this? I'm not
familiar with that configuration. My 1 dash
and 2 dash numbers for the S700 series
switches first from AEC and then from B&C
was developed from the Honeywell-Microswitch
numbering conventions shown in.
http://aeroelectric.com/Mfgr_Data/Switches/Microswitch_TL-Series.pdf
There are no dash 11 configurations.
Bob . . .
Bob . . .
----------------------------------------)
( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
----------------------------------------
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty E-Bis Diode |
At 03:22 PM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
><hammer408@comcast.net>
>
>Bob:
>
>I'm putting together my Relay and just noticed that your Z 32 diagram for
>the Heavy Duty E-Bus relay uses a IN4001 Diode. When I ordered my relay
>from B&C a month or 2 ago, they supplied me with the IN5400 Diode which
>corresponds to their diagram.....
>
>My question is: Is it critical that I use the IN4001 Diode for my Heavy
>Duty E-Bus configuration or can I use the 5400?
ANY diode will work electrically. The 5400 has larger
leads and may be difficult to get into the PIDG terminal
wire grip along with the 22AWG coil wire. If you can get
the crimp to work, it will be fine. Otherwise, go to Radio
Shack and get a 1N400x diode . . . any digit in the x
location is okay.
Bob . . .
----------------------------------------)
( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
----------------------------------------
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration |
At 12:43 PM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
>
>BOB: See Page 15 in the B&C catalog.
>
>http://www.bandcspecialty.com/2008_Catalog_20pg_sm.pdf
Interesting. B&C shows a -11 and a -51 which I've not
see before. The H-M catalog speaks to a -21, -31, -51
and -61 which are three position switches having one
extreme position locked out thus making them a two-
position (mid and one extreme).
The -51 version has a momentary position opposite the
keyway. So if I were to guess, Carling offers some devices
having a mid and extreme positions only with some
spring-loaded momentary options. I've not had occasion
to use one in a design.
Bob . . .
----------------------------------------)
( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
----------------------------------------
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Heavy Duty E-Bis Diode |
Thanks Bob:
I used the 5400....a little tough to crimp, but it cam e our just
fine.......
Thanks
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Heavy Duty E-Bis Diode
<nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
>
> At 03:22 PM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
> ><hammer408@comcast.net>
> >
> >Bob:
> >
> >I'm putting together my Relay and just noticed that your Z 32 diagram for
> >the Heavy Duty E-Bus relay uses a IN4001 Diode. When I ordered my relay
> >from B&C a month or 2 ago, they supplied me with the IN5400 Diode which
> >corresponds to their diagram.....
> >
> >My question is: Is it critical that I use the IN4001 Diode for my Heavy
> >Duty E-Bus configuration or can I use the 5400?
>
> ANY diode will work electrically. The 5400 has larger
> leads and may be difficult to get into the PIDG terminal
> wire grip along with the 22AWG coil wire. If you can get
> the crimp to work, it will be fine. Otherwise, go to Radio
> Shack and get a 1N400x diode . . . any digit in the x
> location is okay.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ----------------------------------------)
> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
> ( appearance of being right . . . )
> ( )
> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
> ----------------------------------------
>
>
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration |
Bill didn't know what it was. Maybe it's a typo.
Sam
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@cox.net> wrote:
> nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
>
> At 12:43 PM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
>
>>
>> BOB: See Page 15 in the B&C catalog.
>>
>> http://www.bandcspecialty.com/2008_Catalog_20pg_sm.pdf
>>
>
> Interesting. B&C shows a -11 and a -51 which I've not
> see before. The H-M catalog speaks to a -21, -31, -51
> and -61 which are three position switches having one
> extreme position locked out thus making them a two-
> position (mid and one extreme).
>
> The -51 version has a momentary position opposite the
> keyway. So if I were to guess, Carling offers some devices
> having a mid and extreme positions only with some
> spring-loaded momentary options. I've not had occasion
> to use one in a design.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ----------------------------------------)
> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
> ( appearance of being right . . . )
> ( )
> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
> ----------------------------------------
>
>
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Bob and all,
I recently upgraded the lighting in the shop where my airplane is under
construction from the 20+ year old, 8 foot fluorescent fixtures to the
newer, more energy efficient type with electronic ballasts. The light is
much better, and that irritating audible hum that the old lights made is
gone. However, all radio reception and the lower TV channels are gone too,
now nothing but static. Both the radio and TV are connected to an outside
antenna via RG6 coax. Someone at an electronics store suggested that
replacing the existing coax with RG6 Quad Shield in from the antenna would
solve the problem. I am not familiar with this product. Any thoughts? I
rather miss having the radio on while working on the plane.
Regards,
Tom Barter
Kesley, IA
Avid Magnum - wiring
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
At 06:19 PM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
>Bob and all,
>
>I recently upgraded the lighting in the shop where my airplane is
>under construction from the 20+ year old, 8 foot fluorescent
>fixtures to the newer, more energy efficient type with electronic
>ballasts. The light is much better, and that irritating audible hum
>that the old lights made is gone. However, all radio reception and
>the lower TV channels are gone too, now nothing but static. Both
>the radio and TV are connected to an outside antenna via RG6
>coax. Someone at an electronics store suggested that replacing the
>existing coax with RG6 Quad Shield in from the antenna would solve
>the problem. I am not familiar with this product. Any thoughts? I
>rather miss having the radio on while working on the plane.
>
>Regards,
>
My best guess is that the ballasts were not filtered
to control the effects of radiation from the tubes.
I've heard of this before. The 8' tubes make really
good antennas for radiating the noise. Additional
shielding of the feedline to your radios is unlikely
to make any difference. Try a hand-held AM/FM radio
and see how far you have to move away from the lights
to get unaffected reception.
Bob . . .
----------------------------------------)
( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
----------------------------------------
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration |
It looks, from Page 15, that the 2-11 ON-ON-OFF is the same as 2-1 ON-OFF-ON
except for the
location of the OFF position and +$12.00. It is similar for the 2-5 and
2-51.
Joe R
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam
Hoskins
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: B&C S700-2-11 switch configuration
Bill didn't know what it was. Maybe it's a typo.
Sam
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III
<nuckolls.bob@cox.net> wrote:
<nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
At 12:43 PM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
BOB: See Page 15 in the B&C catalog.
http://www.bandcspecialty.com/2008_Catalog_20pg_sm.pdf
Interesting. B&C shows a -11 and a -51 which I've not
see before. The H-M catalog speaks to a -21, -31, -51
and -61 which are three position switches having one
extreme position locked out thus making them a two-
position (mid and one extreme).
The -51 version has a momentary position opposite the
keyway. So if I were to guess, Carling offers some devices
having a mid and extreme positions only with some
spring-loaded momentary options. I've not had occasion
to use one in a design.
Bob . . .
----------------------------------------)
( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
----------------------------------------
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|