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1. 05:00 AM - Re: Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (Andrew Butler)
2. 05:42 AM - Re: test after unsub/sub (I think) (BobsV35B@aol.com)
3. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Hall Effect Sensor Installation (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 07:01 AM - Re: tried to unsub. can't. how do I? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
5. 07:37 AM - Re: test (F. Tim Yoder)
6. 07:40 AM - Re: test after unsub/sub (I think) (F. Tim Yoder)
7. 07:46 AM - Re: test after unsub/sub (I think) (Peter Russell)
8. 08:22 AM - Re: Red start button and fuse. (marcausman)
9. 08:48 AM - Re: test after unsub/sub (I think) (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (Mike)
11. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (Mike)
12. 11:28 AM - Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (James H Nelson)
13. 11:35 AM - LED Nav lights: recommendation? (Ralph Finch)
14. 12:05 PM - Re: LED Nav lights: recommendation? (Ernest Christley)
15. 12:13 PM - Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (James Robinson)
16. 12:27 PM - Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
17. 12:32 PM - Re: LED Nav lights: recommendation? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
18. 12:36 PM - Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
19. 01:52 PM - Re: tried to unsub. can't. how do I? (David M)
20. 02:11 PM - test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed now! (David M)
21. 02:46 PM - Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (Dale Rogers)
22. 02:53 PM - Re: test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed now! (Dale Rogers)
23. 03:35 PM - Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules (Chris Byrne)
24. 03:35 PM - Re: test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed now! (David M)
25. 04:08 PM - Re: Ignition Switch (Henry Trzeciakowski)
26. 04:19 PM - Re: test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed now! (Kevin Horton)
27. 04:45 PM - Re: test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed now! (F. Tim Yoder)
28. 06:24 PM - Re: test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed now! (Dj Merrill)
29. 06:54 PM - and my email is set to plain text! (David M)
30. 06:58 PM - test 6, avg outgoing turned off (David M)
31. 07:06 PM - Re: test 6, avg outgoing turned off (Ron Shannon)
32. 07:08 PM - Re: test 6, avg outgoing turned off (BobsV35B@aol.com)
33. 08:11 PM - Re: test 6, avg outgoing turned off (F. Tim Yoder)
34. 08:14 PM - Re: test 6, avg outgoing turned off (David M)
35. 08:20 PM - current sensors (David M)
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules |
Hi Jeff,
I also plan on dual electronic ignition and my original design was practica
lly identical to yours. This was when I was looking at Dual Plasma III Igni
tions. Then I switched to dual P-MAGS. Reason? Simplicity and internal powe
r. At this point I couldn't reason that the added complexity of the dual ba
ttery split bus was justified, and ended up removing the second battery fro
m the design.
Both the designs are attached, the dual alt, dual batt dating from April. T
he current design is more or less finished.
Any takers of critiquing it for me?
The originals are in Visio. If anyone wants a copy, let me know.
Cheers, Andrew.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Page" <jpx@Qenesis.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 3:44:53 PM GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Irela
nd, Portugal
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules
I plan dual electronic ignitions for my aircraft. =C2-I started with =C2
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Z13/8. =C2-As much as I expect the designers have done significant things
=C2-
to ensure the ignitions work, in spite of nasty power events, I =C2-
finally decided I wanted completely isolated electrical systems, so =C2-
any problem, no matter how unlikely or unpredictable, could not =C2-
prevent continued flight. =C2-So I added a few features from Z14. =C2-I
=C2-
didn't go all the way. =C2-My aux battery is very small, and driven by an
=C2-
SD-8 alternator. =C2-I did not join the batteries together for extra jolt
=C2-
when starting. =C2-I do have a small cross-feed relay that will allow the
=C2-
SD-8 to power the essential bus if the main alternator fails.
The biggest thing I wrestled with, was how was my wife to know what =C2-
switches to throw in the event of an alternator failure ? =C2-Together we
=C2-
came up with coloured lines joining the warning light and switches =C2-
that are numbered. =C2-This low voltage light goes on, then flip these
=C2-
switches in this order.
You can view my power diagram and the switch layout here:
http://www.curtispriest.com/tundra/Electrical
Jeff Page
Dream Aircraft Tundra #10
> Speaking of Hall Effect stuff, I just purchased two LightSpeed III hall
> effect ignition modules. The mfg says to connect the + side of the
> controller through a pull-able breaker then directly to the battery
> terminal. Ok, that covers their insurance folks if I crash. On the other
> hand I am using Z-13 and was thinking of using the same scenario but
> connecting them to the main battery bus using an ATC fuse and skipping
> the breaker. I was never a proponent of having extra wires hanging off
> the + side of the battery terminal. AS in Z-13 I will have a switch to
> turn them on/off as necessary.
>
> Has anyone wired up two of these and which method did you use.
>
> Glenn
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: test after unsub/sub (I think) |
Good Morning David,
It appears that you are still shooting blanks.
I wish I knew more about computers. I wonder if it would help to contact
Matt Dralle (_dralle@matronics.com_ (mailto:dralle@matronics.com) ) directly?
Happy Skies
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
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| Subject: | Re: Hall Effect Sensor Installation |
At 09:07 PM 12/17/2008, you wrote:
>Ken,
>Congratulations. You are the first to obtain a less than
>antagonistic response on this subject. Perhaps moderate aging mellows us.
>It is not a stretch at all to find amps a valuable bit of info while airborne.
>Stan
I don't take pleasure in poking sticks
at people. What have I said about ammeters
that you interpreted as antagonistic?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: tried to unsub. can't. how do I? |
At 12:02 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote:
I presume you've been to the feature on the
server that controls subscriptions:
http://matronics.com/subscribe
I checked your email address on this page
and find that you're subscribed to three
Lists. You un-check the boxes you want to
delete and "execute".
In a few minutes, you'll receive an e-mail
that says a request for changes to your subscriptions
has been received. There's a link on that
email you have to hit to CONFIRM your request.
This feature prevents folks from messing with
your subscription status without your knowledge/
permission.
Bob . . .
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:34 PM
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:49 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: test after unsub/sub (I think)
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| Subject: | test after unsub/sub (I think) |
I also can not unsub. ??? can any suggest a solution ?
Regards=2C Peteruss
EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me> From: ainut@hiwaay.net> To: aeroelec
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| Subject: | Re: Red start button and fuse. |
OK, who is pushing Stein's buttons? :D ha ha Sorry, couldn't resist.
Merry Christmas and best wishes.
stein(at)steinair.com wrote:
> Bob is of course right...and it sounds eerily similar to what I said on the phone
30 minutes earlier!
>
> Cheers,
> Stein
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Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | test after unsub/sub (I think) |
At 09:46 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote:
>I also can not unsub. ??? can any suggest a solution ?
>
>Regards, Peteruss
>
I just went to the matronics subscription page and
successfully subscribed to a new list and then
successfully un-subscribed from the same list.
The system is working as advertised.
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules |
Andrew,
My two cents! I have personally seen more EMAG/PMAG failures then total
electrical failure in single bus electrical systems (Z-11). Add a
secondary battery (Z-19) and the statistics improve for a plasma system
vs. EMAG/PMAG. Remember during a major electrical failure (for what
ever reason) the Plasma systems only need, is a good battery for more
flying time then the airplane will hold fuel. The EMAG/PMAG product has
had more then it's fair share of field testing failures by the customer.
A customer that didn't realize they were test subjects. Just my opinion
viewed with actual 1st party data not 3rd!
Mike Larkin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Butler
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules
Hi Jeff,
I also plan on dual electronic ignition and my original design was
practically identical to yours. This was when I was looking at Dual
Plasma III Ignitions. Then I switched to dual P-MAGS. Reason? Simplicity
and internal power. At this point I couldn't reason that the added
complexity of the dual battery split bus was justified, and ended up
removing the second battery from the design.
Both the designs are attached, the dual alt, dual batt dating from
April. The current design is more or less finished.
Any takers of critiquing it for me?
The originals are in Visio. If anyone wants a copy, let me know.
Cheers, Andrew.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Page" <jpx@Qenesis.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 3:44:53 PM GMT +00:00 GMT Britain,
Ireland, Portugal
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules
I plan dual electronic ignitions for my aircraft. I started with
Z13/8. As much as I expect the designers have done significant things
to ensure the ignitions work, in spite of nasty power events, I
finally decided I wanted completely isolated electrical systems, so
any problem, no matter how unlikely or unpredictable, could not
prevent continued flight. So I added a few features from Z14. I
didn't go all the way. My aux battery is very small, and driven by an
SD-8 alternator. I did not join the batteries together for extra jolt
when starting. I do have a small cross-feed relay that will allow the
SD-8 to power the essential bus if the main alternator fails.
The biggest thing I wrestled with, was how was my wife to know what
switches to throw in the event of an alternator failure ? Together we
came up with coloured lines joining the warning light and switches
that are numbered. This low voltage light goes on, then flip these
switches in this order.
You can view my power diagram and the switch layout here:
http://www.curtispriest.com/tundra/Electrical
Jeff Page
Dream Aircraft Tundra #10
> Speaking of Hall Effect stuff, I just purchased two LightSpeed III
hall
> effect ignition modules. The mfg says to connect the + side of the
> controller through a pull-able breaker then directly to the battery
> terminal. Ok, that covers their insurance folks if I crash. On the
other
> hand I am using Z-13 and was thinking of using the same scenario but
> connecting them to the main battery bus using an ATC fuse and skipping
> the breaker. I was never a proponent of having extra wires hanging off
> the + side of the battery terminal. AS in Z-13 I will have a switch to
> turn them on/off as necessary.
>
> Has anyone wired up two of these and which method did you use.
>
> Glenn
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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10/27/2008 7:57 AM
10/27/2008 7:57 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules |
Glenn,
The reason for wiring the Lightspeed Plasma systems directly to the
battery is to prevent engine failure should you experience a bus failure
(a bus short, over voltage, or heavy drain buy a runaway device. The
object is that you could simply shut off all electric and continue to
fly (powering the Lightspeed system directly from a battery). If you
wire the Plasma system to the bus, you would become a glider in the
event of an electrical problem. In my opinion the Lightspeed dual
system requires two batters in the airplane period. Anything less will
only serve to help you glider logbook.
Mike Larkin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Page
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:45 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules
I plan dual electronic ignitions for my aircraft. I started with
Z13/8. As much as I expect the designers have done significant things
to ensure the ignitions work, in spite of nasty power events, I
finally decided I wanted completely isolated electrical systems, so
any problem, no matter how unlikely or unpredictable, could not
prevent continued flight. So I added a few features from Z14. I
didn't go all the way. My aux battery is very small, and driven by an
SD-8 alternator. I did not join the batteries together for extra jolt
when starting. I do have a small cross-feed relay that will allow the
SD-8 to power the essential bus if the main alternator fails.
The biggest thing I wrestled with, was how was my wife to know what
switches to throw in the event of an alternator failure ? Together we
came up with coloured lines joining the warning light and switches
that are numbered. This low voltage light goes on, then flip these
switches in this order.
You can view my power diagram and the switch layout here:
http://www.curtispriest.com/tundra/Electrical
Jeff Page
Dream Aircraft Tundra #10
> Speaking of Hall Effect stuff, I just purchased two LightSpeed III
hall
> effect ignition modules. The mfg says to connect the + side of the
> controller through a pull-able breaker then directly to the battery
> terminal. Ok, that covers their insurance folks if I crash. On the
other
> hand I am using Z-13 and was thinking of using the same scenario but
> connecting them to the main battery bus using an ATC fuse and skipping
> the breaker. I was never a proponent of having extra wires hanging off
> the + side of the battery terminal. AS in Z-13 I will have a switch to
> turn them on/off as necessary.
>
> Has anyone wired up two of these and which method did you use.
>
> Glenn
10/27/2008 7:57 AM
10/27/2008 7:57 AM
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| Subject: | Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules |
Mike,
How many failures do you know about with the E-Mag, P-Mag
ignitions? How many failures of magneto ignitions have occured in the
same time? Other ignitions of various configurations. Fact vs: opinion
is very important. Nothing is perfect. The main reason we all use dual
ignitions is for safety. It also gives us better fuel burn.
Jim
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| Subject: | LED Nav lights: recommendation? |
Bob--
Sorry to bother you with this but: do you have a vendor or vendors of LED
Navigation lights you can recommend or at least point out to me? Especially
ones that would sell their lights without driver so I can use yours. Having
a bit of trouble locating such a product.
Thanks,
Ralph Finch
Davis, CA
RV-9A QB
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| Subject: | Re: LED Nav lights: recommendation? |
Ralph Finch wrote:
>
> Bob--
>
> Sorry to bother you with this but: do you have a vendor or vendors of LED
> Navigation lights you can recommend or at least point out to me? Especially
> ones that would sell their lights without driver so I can use yours. Having
> a bit of trouble locating such a product.
>
>
besthongkong.com
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules |
I have been using dual Lightspeed ign for about 300 hrs on my Glll with no
problems.
Jim Robinson
Glll- N79R
--- On Thu, 12/18/08, James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com> wrote:
From: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules
<rv9jim@juno.com>
Mike,
How many failures do you know about with the E-Mag, P-Mag
ignitions? How many failures of magneto ignitions have occured in the
same time? Other ignitions of various configurations. Fact vs: opinion
is very important. Nothing is perfect. The main reason we all use dual
ignitions is for safety. It also gives us better fuel burn.
Jim
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| Subject: | RE: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules |
At 12:06 PM 12/18/2008, you wrote:
>
>Glenn,
>
>The reason for wiring the Lightspeed Plasma systems directly to the
>battery is to prevent engine failure should you experience a bus failure
>(a bus short, over voltage, or heavy drain buy a runaway device. The
>object is that you could simply shut off all electric and continue to
>fly (powering the Lightspeed system directly from a battery). If you
>wire the Plasma system to the bus, you would become a glider in the
>event of an electrical problem. In my opinion the Lightspeed dual
>system requires two batters in the airplane period. Anything less will
>only serve to help you glider logbook.
How do those feared risks occur?
How do you get a shorted battery bus failure? How does
connection directly to the battery protect against
an overvoltage condition? What matter of "runaway
device" can you imagine that brings the entire system
to its knees? As long as we're in the free-ranging
imagination mode, how about bursting batteries,
open batteries, etc. etc.
It's easy to hypothesize about all manner of failure
but the acid test is the repeatable experiment. Get
any combination of implements you choose and MAKE
one of those events happen. If it can happen accidently,
then you can make it happen. If it's exceedingly
difficult or impossible to MAKE it happen, then concerns
for accidental events go away. The physics of events do
not change for random versus purposeful failures.
Suppose your engine is also dependent upon electrically
delivered fuel? The path to Nirvana is more than hooking
certain accessories directly to the battery with some
notion of fending off nargles. Failure Mode Effects
Analysis is a science and exercise in logic that has
served aviation (and others) very well for 100+
years.
Making sure the electrically dependent engine is not
left in dark has been discussed here on the list for
over ten years. These discussions have included consideration
of auxiliary batteries both manually and automatically
controlled.
http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/Adobe_Architecture_Pdfs/Z29-30K.pdf
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/bat_iso2.pdf
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9005/9005-701B.pdf
There are well considered rationale for dual
accessories and power sources that do not concern
themselves with the statistically improbable or
physically impossible failure. These were the thought
processes that went into crafting Z-19 for certain
kinds of engines.
http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/Adobe_Architecture_Pdfs/Z19m_1.pdf
http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/Adobe_Architecture_Pdfs/Z19m_2.pdf
Let us not get bogged down with concerns about why
and how to tie multiple wires to the battery(+) post.
There are tried and well tested ways to architecture
and fabricate an electrical system that grow out
of confidence of understanding as opposed to nostrums
that arise out of fear.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: LED Nav lights: recommendation? |
At 01:31 PM 12/18/2008, you wrote:
>
>Bob--
>
>Sorry to bother you with this but: do you have a vendor or vendors of LED
>Navigation lights you can recommend or at least point out to me? Especially
>ones that would sell their lights without driver so I can use yours. Having
>a bit of trouble locating such a product.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ralph Finch
>Davis, CA
No bother at all sir. I must confess that I'm ignorant of
the most attractive products to this task. My interest in
the power supplies arose from discussions that I think came
to this List from the RV folks. Seems the barefoot power
supplies were taking radios down. My only participation to
this point has been to make these devices more user
friendly for installation and system friendly with
respect to noise. The idea is catching on . . . I presume
based on availability of attractive lamps. I sent two
pairs of LED drivers out of the country last week!
If folks on the List are aware of suppliers for LED products
suited to the task of fabricating nav lights, I'd be pleased
to be made aware of them. I'll tie a list of recommendations
to the last page of the document that I crafted for
the power supplies.
Bob . . .
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( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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| Subject: | Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules |
I would agree..There have been a handful of failures, some of those were serious
where the E/Pmag lost its timing reference.
There were two reasons for this..One was where the firmware would see a false pressure
spike and would then revert to its factory default timing..This was fixed
a while ago and seems to have not re-occured.
The other reason was because the magnet was shifting on the end of the shaft. There
have been several fixes for this but I believe the lastest one has finally
got it. The magnet is now silver soldered on the holder and the holder is keyed
to the end of the shaft.
Now of course this latest revision does not have that many hours on it so by default
its unproven over the long term but it sure looks like a robust solution.
I have over 300 hours on an E/Pmag combo and did have some early teething troubles.
I know have the latest fixes and feel quite comfortable flying behind them.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Dual Lightspeed Ignition modules
--> <rv9jim@juno.com>
Mike,
How many failures do you know about with the E-Mag, P-Mag
ignitions? How many failures of magneto ignitions have occured in the
same time? Other ignitions of various configurations. Fact vs: opinion is very
important. Nothing is perfect. The main reason we all use dual ignitions is
for safety. It also gives us better fuel burn.
Jim
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FWIW dept.
Marc Zeitlin documents the saga of his experiences, 2004 - 2008, with
the product line.
http://www.cozybuilders.org/Emagair_Warning/index.html
Dale R.
COZY MkIV #0497
Ch. 12
James H Nelson wrote:
>
> Mike,
> How many failures do you know about with the E-Mag, P-Mag
> ignitions? How many failures of magneto ignitions have occured in the
> same time? Other ignitions of various configurations. Fact vs: opinion
> is very important. Nothing is perfect. The main reason we all use dual
> ignitions is for safety. It also gives us better fuel burn.
>
> Jim
>
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David M wrote:
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David,
Are you sending your messages as "attachments"? Either your mailer or
the matronics mailer seems to be stripping off your content. Try
setting up your mail handler to send "plain text" or "ASCII".
Dale R.
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Dale wrote
>FWIW dept.
>
> Marc Zeitlin documents the saga of his experiences, 2004 - 2008, with the
> product line.
And then there is the silent majority that are happy with their PMAG.
Yes some people have had problems, and there have been teething problems.I
have had to send mine back for an update.
But I haven't had any problems with mine. I only have 90 Hrs on them but
many others have 100's of hours on theirs.
Just to balance the argument.
Chris Byrne
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition Switch |
Bob:
I just purchased an ACS Ignition Switch (A-510-2) [
Off-Right-Left-Both-Start] and was looking at their wiring instructions.
I then downloaded your Z-26 diagram for Ignition Switch Options -
Magento. Both wiring diagrams are basically identical with a few
differences:
Both diagrams jumper GRD &R for impulse coupling to Right Mag - shielded
wire
Both depict L to Left Mag - shielded wire
Both depict B to Main Bus (7amp)
Both diagram S to Starter Seleniod
The differences are:
ACS has shielded wire grounded at the right & left mag only, and the GRD
terminal grounded at the grounding block or nearest structure.
whereas your Z-26 have these wires shielded at both ends with the shield
closest to the ignition switch wired to the GRD, but your GRD is NOT
grounded to a grounding block or nearest structure....
ACS also says to use all shielded wire....I personally think that is
overkill...
So, would you recommend grounding at both ends of the shielding wire,
but why not ground at the switch, or was this accidently omitted by you?
Comments, suggestions appreciated.
Henry
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David - Do you have McAfee VirusScan on your computer? I've seen some
reports that virus scanning on the outgoing messages can somehow cause
the messages to appear to be blank. I have no idea why this would be
so, or if this is fact or fiction. But, it may be worthwhile turning
off any virus scanning for a test.
Kevin Horton
On 18-Dec-08, at 18:30 , David M wrote:
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Still not working
----- Original Message -----
From: "David M" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed now!
>
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Hi David,
Looking at the message source I can see your text, but there is also
some extra gunk in there that seems to be messing things up, and it
looks like it is being generated on your computer.
You might try disabling your AVG virus scanner, and then send another
e-mail to see if that corrects the issue. The message header has a
Content-Type "=======AVGMAIL-494ADD2F0000=======" info embedded in it,
along with three other lines that also have "Content-Type" header
information, including some embedded part way down the message, which
does not look right to me.
The only other idea is something is set incorrectly with the Microsoft
Outlook Express program that you are using. If hiiway.net offers a web
interface to your e-mail, you might try sending a message from that to
bypass Outlook Express. You might also try another e-mail program such
as Thunderbird.
-Dj
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Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ KR-2 Builder N770DJ
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"Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an
airplane." --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005
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test #6
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From: "Kevin Horton" <khorton01@rogers.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed
now!
> <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> David - Do you have McAfee VirusScan on your computer? I've seen some
> reports that virus scanning on the outgoing messages can somehow cause
> the messages to appear to be blank. I have no idea why this would be
> so, or if this is fact or fiction. But, it may be worthwhile turning
> off any virus scanning for a test.
>
> Kevin Horton
>
> On 18-Dec-08, at 18:30 , David M wrote:
>
>>
>>
>
>
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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
8:06 PM
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Ta Da! That did it.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:55 PM, David M <ainut@hiwaay.net> wrote:
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> test #6
>
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Looks Good!!
Happy Skies
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 12/18/2008 8:59:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
ainut@hiwaay.net writes:
test #6
**************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail,
Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now.
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Now that it's working what was the message? Better be good!
HA HA
Tim
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From: BobsV35B@aol.com
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: test 6, avg outgoing turned off
Looks Good!!
Happy Skies
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 12/18/2008 8:59:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
ainut@hiwaay.net writes:
test #6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and
Yah&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025">Try it now.
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Yay! It works now!!!
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "David M" <ainut@hiwaay.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: test 6, avg outgoing turned off
>
> test #6
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Horton" <khorton01@rogers.com>
> To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: test #4 - I know I unsubbed and resubbed
> now!
>
>
>> <khorton01@rogers.com>
>>
>> David - Do you have McAfee VirusScan on your computer? I've seen some
>> reports that virus scanning on the outgoing messages can somehow cause
>> the messages to appear to be blank. I have no idea why this would be
>> so, or if this is fact or fiction. But, it may be worthwhile turning
>> off any virus scanning for a test.
>>
>> Kevin Horton
>>
>> On 18-Dec-08, at 18:30 , David M wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> 8:06 PM
>
>
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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
8:06 PM
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I'm going to use these in my OBAM 12v home made EFIS:
Allegro ACS750xCA-100
Cheap, easy, and hopefully reliable. No moving parts. :)
David
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