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1. 07:31 AM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Ralph Finch)
2. 07:33 AM - Re: Any recommendations for camera system to be mounted in vertical fin? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 08:07 AM - Re: Revision 12 pre-published release (Joe)
4. 08:09 AM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Bob White)
5. 08:17 AM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Steve)
6. 11:16 AM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Ralph Finch)
7. 11:59 AM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Robert Borger)
8. 12:14 PM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Greg Young)
9. 01:45 PM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Bob White)
10. 02:45 PM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Ralph Finch)
11. 02:48 PM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Sam Hoskins)
12. 04:53 PM - Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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| Subject: | How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
Bob, thanks for the reply...sure glad I asked here first. Say, I don't have
the RCT-3, but tried the smallest hole on the coax crimper RCT-2
(http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#RCT-2). It
seems to provide a firm crimp--I tugged on it and it didn't come apart--but
again, before charging ahead, want to make sure.
RF
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob White
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin
Hi Ralph,
Those are crimp pins. The tool from B&C works great.
Stock #: RCT-3
Bob W.
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:18 -0800
"Ralph Finch" <rgf@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub
> connector, as shown here.
>
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg
>
>
>
> I'm pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts.
> And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ralph Finch
>
> Davis, CA
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Any recommendations for camera system to be |
mounted in vertical fin?
Hmm, haven't noticed anything in testing but I'm not flying as of yet so no
t sure of the final outcome. Hopefully it is in a isolated enough location
(baggage compartment away from the radios) that it shouldn't be an issue i
f it does have a radiation problem. I'll report back once I'm to that poin
t.
Michael
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectr
ic-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rparigor@SUFFOLK.LIB.NY.US
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Any recommendations for camera system to be
mounted in vertical fin?
Hi Michael, This is Ron's building partner Wayne. Thanks for the lead here
, I was reading through the forum on chaseCam and came across the VHF radio
interfearance post. The company is working on improving EMI and they don'
t currently have any UL or CE ratings; did you notice any noise when operat
ing your system? Thanks, Wayne
> I used a waterproof bullet camera that was capable of fairly low lux. I
> have it hooked up to a DVR that I mounted in the baggage compartment
> called a ChaseCam PDR100.
>From there the ChaseCam outputs to the aux
> input on my Alpine AV system for a POV. I'll also be hooking up audio
> to the DVR from the pilot position on the intercom. The DVR will
> automatically start with the master switch and it's configured to write
> over the oldest file when full. That gives it more than enough capacity
> for even a long trip.
>
> www.chasecam.com<http://www.chasecam.com>
>
> Michael
>
>
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> rparigor@SUFFOLK.LIB.NY.US
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 PM
> To: AeroelectricList
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Any recommendations for camera system to be
> mounted in vertical fin?
>
> Any recommendations for camera to be mounted in vertical fin?
>
> I have a Europa XS and want to mount a camera forward facing in the rudde
r
> cap. It is about a foot forward of a Bob archer SA-006 big "E" antenna.
>
> Thx.
> Ron Parigoris
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Revision 12 pre-published release |
Bob,
I have sent a private email message to you with the subject,
"Aeroelectric Rev12A Battery".
Let me know if you want me to proof read more of Rev 12.
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
Hi Ralph,
I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit into
the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out of
it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or removing
them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).
Bob W.
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:24:13 -0800
"Ralph Finch" <rgf@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>
> Bob, thanks for the reply...sure glad I asked here first. Say, I don't have
> the RCT-3, but tried the smallest hole on the coax crimper RCT-2
> (http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#RCT-2). It
> seems to provide a firm crimp--I tugged on it and it didn't come apart--but
> again, before charging ahead, want to make sure.
>
> RF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob White
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:58 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin
>
>
> Hi Ralph,
>
> Those are crimp pins. The tool from B&C works great.
> Stock #: RCT-3
>
> Bob W.
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:18 -0800
> "Ralph Finch" <rgf@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>
> > I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub
> > connector, as shown here.
> >
> > http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts.
> > And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ralph Finch
> >
> > Davis, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
Ralph,
I'm not sure I would trust the crimp on the d-sub pin from the coax crimper.
It may be tight, but it is certainly not the correct type of crimp for the
pin. Using the proper crimper can save problems in the future. The cost of
the proper crimper should be worth it since you will probably be using it
more as you wire your aircraft. The machined d-sub pins can also be used in
the smaller pin CPC connectors as well. The machined pins and sockets are
higher quality than the open barrel type of pins and again can prevent
phantom problems in the future.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
Finch
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:24 AM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin
Bob, thanks for the reply...sure glad I asked here first. Say, I don't have
the RCT-3, but tried the smallest hole on the coax crimper RCT-2
(http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#RCT-2). It
seems to provide a firm crimp--I tugged on it and it didn't come apart--but
again, before charging ahead, want to make sure.
RF
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob White
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin
Hi Ralph,
Those are crimp pins. The tool from B&C works great.
Stock #: RCT-3
Bob W.
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:18 -0800
"Ralph Finch" <rgf@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> I need to attach wires (solder or crimp?) to female pins for the D-sub
> connector, as shown here.
>
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/D-Sub_Pin/D-Sub_A.jpg
>
>
>
> I'm pretty sure only solder will work but want to check with the experts.
> And what wire size is recommended, assuming 1 amp and say 1 or 2 foot run?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ralph Finch
>
> Davis, CA
>
>
>
>
--
N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com
3.8 Hours Total Time and holding
Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/
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| Subject: | How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
Bob and Steve,
Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get something right:
would the IDEAL 30-426
(http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper today
from
Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have several
days
delay shipping.
RF
Quoting Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>:
[Hide Quoted Text]
Hi Ralph,
I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit into
the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out of
it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or removing
them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).
Bob W.
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| Subject: | Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
Ralph,
No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.
You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp
for the pin in your picture.
Check six ,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:
> >
>
> Bob and Steve,
>
> Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get
> something right:
> would the IDEAL 30-426
> (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
> be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper
> today
> from
> Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have
> several
> days
> delay shipping.
>
> RF
> Quoting Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>:
>
> [Hide Quoted Text]
>
> Hi Ralph,
>
> I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
> and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit
> into
> the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
> two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out
> of
> it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or
> removing
> them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).
>
> Bob W.
>
>
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| Subject: | How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
You want a closed barrel tool. I bought one from Frys. I think it was made
by Eclipse. Looks like this:
Regards,
Greg Young
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Ralph Finch
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:14 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin
>
> --> <rgf@dcn.davis.ca.us>
>
> Bob and Steve,
>
> Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get
> something right:
> would the IDEAL 30-426
> (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
> be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL
> crimper today from Frys for about the same price as the
> RCT-3; the latter would have several days delay shipping.
>
> RF
> Quoting Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>:
>
> [Hide Quoted Text]
>
> Hi Ralph,
>
> I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4
> point crimp, and will definitely make the proper crimp so
> that the pin will fit into the connector body correctly. I
> don't have any experience using the two sided crimp tool on
> these pins, but if you get an oval shape out of it, it could
> cause problems either with installing the pins or removing
> them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).
>
> Bob W.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
I agree with Bob. You need the 4 point crimp tool for round machined
pins. Anything that squeezes in form 2 sides may cause grief in the
long run.
Bob W.
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:13 -0600
Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Ralph,
>
> No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.
>
> You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp
> for the pin in your picture.
>
> Check six ,
> Bob Borger
> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
> Aircraft Flying!
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208
> Home: 940-497-2123
> Cel: 817-992-1117
>
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:
>
> > >
> >
> > Bob and Steve,
> >
> > Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get
> > something right:
> > would the IDEAL 30-426
> > (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
> > be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper
> > today
> > from
> > Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have
> > several
> > days
> > delay shipping.
> >
> > RF
> > Quoting Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>:
> >
> > [Hide Quoted Text]
> >
> > Hi Ralph,
> >
> > I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
> > and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit
> > into
> > the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
> > two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out
> > of
> > it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or
> > removing
> > them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).
> >
> > Bob W.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
--
N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com
3.8 Hours Total Time and holding
Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/
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| Subject: | Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
Quoting Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>:
>
> Ralph,
>
> No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.
>
> You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp
> for the pin in your picture.
>
> Check six ,
> Bob Borger
> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
OK, I ordered the proper tool, and some replacement pins and sockets for the
improperly crimped ones. Thanks again, saved me from frustration down the
road.
Ralph Finch
Davis, CA USA
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| Subject: | Re: How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
If I only had a very few pins, I would probably use the open barrel pins,
along with the Ideal crimp tool.
If you are going to do anymore than, say ten pins, you definitely want to go
with the right tool and machined pins.
Sam
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Bob White <bob@bob-white.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Bob. You need the 4 point crimp tool for round machined
> pins. Anything that squeezes in form 2 sides may cause grief in the
> long run.
>
> Bob W.
>
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:13 -0600
> Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ralph,
> >
> > No, the IDEAL 30-426 is for crimping open-barrel, sheet metal pins.
> >
> > You need a tool like the RCT-3 designed to do a proper 4-point crimp
> > for the pin in your picture.
> >
> > Check six ,
> > Bob Borger
> > Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> > http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
> > Aircraft Flying!
> > 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> > Corinth, TX 76208
> > Home: 940-497-2123
> > Cel: 817-992-1117
> >
> > On Feb 26, 2009, at 13:13, Ralph Finch wrote:
> >
> rgf@dcn.davis.ca.us
> > > >
> > >
> > > Bob and Steve,
> > >
> > > Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get
> > > something right:
> > > would the IDEAL 30-426
> > > (http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
> > > be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper
> > > today
> > > from
> > > Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have
> > > several
> > > days
> > > delay shipping.
> > >
> > > RF
> > > Quoting Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>:
> > >
> > > [Hide Quoted Text]
> > >
> > > Hi Ralph,
> > >
> > > I would recommend going with the RCT-3. It gives you a 4 point crimp,
> > > and will definitely make the proper crimp so that the pin will fit
> > > into
> > > the connector body correctly. I don't have any experience using the
> > > two sided crimp tool on these pins, but if you get an oval shape out
> > > of
> > > it, it could cause problems either with installing the pins or
> > > removing
> > > them later (which is a big advantage of the slip in pins).
> > >
> > > Bob W.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com
> 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding
> Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | How to attach wire to D-sub female pin |
At 01:13 PM 2/26/2009, you wrote:
>
>Bob and Steve,
>
>Many thanks for this! OK, another question, maybe I can get something right:
>would the IDEAL 30-426
>(http://www.idealindustries.com/prodDetail.do?prodId=30-426)
>be a worthy replacement for the RCT-3? I can get the IDEAL crimper today
>from
>Frys for about the same price as the RCT-3; the latter would have several
>days
>delay shipping.
No, this tool is for sheet metal, b-crimp pins. If you can't
get a 4-quad tool, it would be better to solder them on.
Tin the strands. Cut a piece of .032" solder and stick it
down inside the wire socket.
Heat the pin and push and hold the wire bottomed out
until it cools.
Bob . . .
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( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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