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1. 07:51 AM - Re: For Sell Apple . . . (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 08:08 AM - Re: Little toot on your mag cover. (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 08:10 AM - Revision 12 cover photo contest results (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 09:06 AM - Re: For Sell Apple . . . (Walter Fellows)
5. 10:31 AM - Re: For Sell Apple . . . (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: Polyfuses (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 10:43 AM - Re: For Sell Apple . . . (Jeffery J. Morgan)
8. 11:02 AM - Re: Polyfuses (bcondrey)
9. 11:19 AM - Proper use of "Delete" function (Dale Alexander)
10. 12:44 PM - Rotax w/ Perihelion OVM (Chris Stone)
11. 01:20 PM - Re: Rotax w/ Perihelion OVM (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 01:22 PM - (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
13. 01:58 PM - Re: Proper use of "Delete" function (Ralph Finch)
14. 06:55 PM - Re: Proper use of "Delete" function (N395V)
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| Subject: | Re: For Sell Apple . . . |
At 07:27 PM 3/14/2009, you wrote:
>I hope we can keep the forum to a forum and not an email sales site.
>
>On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, mvilla121
><<mailto:mobilevilla@rediff.com>mobilevilla@rediff.com> wrote:
><<mailto:mobilevilla@rediff.com>mobilevilla@rediff.com>
Remain calm my friend. Matt's subscription system is
highly automated so that labor needed to add
or remove a user's email address is minimized. Obviously,
this leaves an opening for persons of dishonorable intent
to display their character for thousands of people to
witness. I've never quite understood that human trait.
Nevertheless, we've just witnessed a prime example.
Know that these things are spotted and dealt with in
a timely manner. To "increase" security for the purpose
of controlling future intrusions will only adversely
affect us all. Sorta like hiring tens of thousands of
folks to frisk babies and little ol' ladies at the airport
gates. So understand that the occasional ringer will
surface and be dealt with appropriately. It unnecessary
and unproductive to get tense or respond to these events
in any manner.
Sleep well tonight, your list administrators are awake.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Little toot on your mag cover. |
At 06:36 PM 3/11/2009, you wrote:
>We appreciate your use of my fathers Little Toot on the cover
>of your magazine.
>
>As Bob Borger mentioned to you. We have larger Meg pictures if you
>care to have them.
>
>I would be honored to see N61G on your cover soon.
>Let me know what I could do to help. Sure would help the toot LSA Movement.
>
>Please consider my large library of Photo's of Little Toot.
>
>Your consideration is appreciated.
>
>If you would like to contact me.
>Here is my Phone Number 817-269-9292
>
>Tommy Meyer
Tommy,
The voting on covers for the next edition of my
book clearly showed a preference for Little Toot.
The shot that Bob sent me did require some "photo
shopping" to get the "long side" vertical for
an 8.5 x 11" cover.
You mentioned a library of other shots. While
I can use what I have, you may well have something
that's better suited. Thank you for your interest
and support!
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Revision 12 cover photo contest results |
I've closed the voting and tallied the responses:
Cover #1 7
Cover #2 9
Cover #3 10
Cover #4 12
There was no overwhelming favorite which is a testament
to the diversity of interests in this group. Since my
vote added to any one of these would not change the
outcome, I'll forego the ballot.
Tom Meyer has offered access to a library of views
for this aircraft. He may have something that doesn't
require "photoshopping" to the extent that I had to
work on the photo I have. But even this mildly
hacked view (as many of you've noted) is well
suited to the task.
The paper copy of R12 will go to press soon. Thanks
to all who participated!
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: For Sell Apple . . . |
Thanks, this is the first time I have seen anything this blatant on this
site. As for my vote, the plugs for the sites of active forum members and
the occasional odd equipment sale of a builder seem reasonable.
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> At 07:27 PM 3/14/2009, you wrote:
>
> I hope we can keep the forum to a forum and not an email sales site.
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, mvilla121 <mobilevilla@rediff.com >
> wrote:
> mobilevilla@rediff.com >
>
>
> Remain calm my friend. Matt's subscription system is
> highly automated so that labor needed to add
> or remove a user's email address is minimized. Obviously,
> this leaves an opening for persons of dishonorable intent
> to display their character for thousands of people to
> witness. I've never quite understood that human trait.
> Nevertheless, we've just witnessed a prime example.
>
> Know that these things are spotted and dealt with in
> a timely manner. To "increase" security for the purpose
> of controlling future intrusions will only adversely
> affect us all. Sorta like hiring tens of thousands of
> folks to frisk babies and little ol' ladies at the airport
> gates. So understand that the occasional ringer will
> surface and be dealt with appropriately. It unnecessary
> and unproductive to get tense or respond to these events
> in any manner.
>
> Sleep well tonight, your list administrators are awake.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ----------------------------------------)
> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
> ( appearance of being right . . . )
> ( )
> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
> ----------------------------------------
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: For Sell Apple . . . |
At 11:04 AM 3/15/2009, you wrote:
>Thanks, this is the first time I have seen anything this blatant on
>this site. As for my vote, the plugs for the sites of active forum
>members and the occasional odd equipment sale of a builder seem reasonable.
Yes. Folks offering items of unique interest to the
OBAM aviation enthusiast are encouraged to make the
fact known here on the List. But massive, blind
fishing exercises for other products and services
is prohibited. There are mechanisms in place to
control these irritating but rare occurrences.
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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At 04:03 PM 3/13/2009, you wrote:
<snip>
> It's even more attractive given that I have some standard
> product enclosures . . .
>
>http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Products/A09_Package.jpg
>
> . . . that reduce the cost of getting these little critters
> boxed up and bolted to the airplane.
After pondering this project for a few days, I've
distilled the magnitude of the effort down considerably.
The "magic" parts we're adapting to our design goals
are really inexpensive. It just doesn't make sense
to wrap a lot of materials and labor costs around
their utilization. I've got some ideas for a do-it-
yerself packaging scheme. I still need to do some
temperature testing in the chamber to make sure we
don't have thermal performance issues with either
operation of the polyfuse or failure of the packaging
technique.
Bottom line is that if the present idea works, these
will be really easy to use for the purposes identified
in earlier postings to this thread.
Bob . . .
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( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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| Subject: | For Sell Apple . . . |
Don't assume that the name you see on the list as the sender actually
sent that. It is no different than if you wrote someone else's address
on the return address of an envelope. Spammers make millions of dollars
faking out systems, and that almost always has nothing to do with the
name you see as the sender on almost all of the messages.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Robert L. Nuckolls, III
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: For Sell Apple . . .
<nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
At 11:04 AM 3/15/2009, you wrote:
>Thanks, this is the first time I have seen anything this blatant on
>this site. As for my vote, the plugs for the sites of active forum
>members and the occasional odd equipment sale of a builder seem
reasonable.
Yes. Folks offering items of unique interest to the
OBAM aviation enthusiast are encouraged to make the
fact known here on the List. But massive, blind
fishing exercises for other products and services
is prohibited. There are mechanisms in place to
control these irritating but rare occurrences.
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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I reported this "feature" on this forum although there might also have been others.
I got the information directly from Klaus at LSE via a telephone call.
Another individual that I personally know called Klaus to advise him of this thread
and behavior was confirmed to him.
I think the polyfuse approach is a great solution and look forward to Bob N's testing.
Assuming that all turns out well I'll be ordering also.
Bob
RV-10 N442PM (flying)
>Is the crowbar feature for real? Somebody else mentioned that
> they thought this was a mis-understanding of some variety.
> You LSE customers should be curious/concerned about this . . .
> which one is going to call/write LSE and find out?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234708#234708
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| Subject: | Proper use of "Delete" function |
Well, because you folks don't bother to delete the bulk of the message, in
this case his models offered for sale, he got to advertise 3X. Proper E-mail
etiquette would provide to only reply with the relevant material and delete
what is not necessary.
Dale Alexander
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| Subject: | Rotax w/ Perihelion OVM |
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax w/ Perihelion OVM |
>I purchased this to provide over voltage protection for the
>electrics powered by the built-in alternator on the Rotax. I am not
>entirely clear on the operation of the Rotax alternator nor is the
>Rotax manual. It contains only a schematic, no theory of
>operation. It has what appear to be two B leads. Per Bob's
>schematic breaking one B lead shuts down the alternator. Per Rotax
>the output is 20A@5,000 RPM. Thus a 20A relay would be suitable if
>each B lead produces 10A max. Since Rotax calls the voltage
>regulator a rectifier/regulator I am assuming each B lead is single
>phase AC but I am not clear as to how breaking one B lead would shut
>down the alternator.
You have two wires coming out of a wall socket to
power some device, but the ON-OFF switch needs to
open or close only one leg of the wall-power to
control the device. Those are not "B" (battery)
leads coming off the engine. They are as you've
guessed, two leads with single phase, AC power on them.
The B-leads are the "R" and "B+" wires that
come off the rectifier/regulator.
Breaking one of the green ac power input leads
is the same as the single switch on your desk
lamp. The PM alternator continues to develop
voltage but it has no place to go.
>A couple of questions: Why both a fusable link and 5A CB in series
>on the master sw/OV disconnect relay?
This is to accommodate some legacy design rules adopted
from certified aircraft . . . since the power to operate
the relay is so small, and since you've elimnated the
need for a pilot accessible circuit breaker, I'll suggest
you eliminate both the fusible link and the 5A breaker.
Power your alternator control circuit directly from a
3A fuse on your main bus.
> How does breaking one line from the 'dynamo' shut it down, or
> does it? Per this schematic power is required from the battery to
> close the OV disconnect relay and bring the 'dynamo' on-line. Thus
> with a dead battery there is no way to bring the 'dynamo' on-line?
Right. But given what we know about the internals
of the rectifier regulator, it doesn't matter. It's
not self-exciting. I suspect we could do a "band-aid"
not unlike that which was developed for the SD-8 and
shown in the latest z-figures . . . but the proof-of-
concept study has not been accomplished for that
product. If you have a dead battery, the prudent
action is to recharge it from some ground based source
before you start the engine to go flying.
Except for elimination of the fusible link and CB,
what you've proposed should work as advertised.
Bob . . .
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( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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Gilles,
Some time back some fellows of your acquaintance were
exploring the thermal deficiencies in the stock Rotax/Ducati
rectifier regulator.
Has that work evolved further than what's currently
described on your website?
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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| Subject: | Proper use of "Delete" function |
I would go further...because of all the replies and responses about this
spam--which the OP will never see nor care about--the spam has thrust in my
face much more than the occasional spam which appears in my mailbox. Why
comment about spam at all? Delete the entire message and forget it. Matt
is a capable list admin and deals with problems on this list. Proper
etiquette with respect to spam is to quietly ignore it, not repost it time
after time.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
Alexander
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:16 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Proper use of "Delete" function
<dalexan48@dslextreme.com>
Well, because you folks don't bother to delete the bulk of the message, in
this case his models offered for sale, he got to advertise 3X. Proper E-mail
etiquette would provide to only reply with the relevant material and delete
what is not necessary.
Dale Alexander
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| Subject: | Re: Proper use of "Delete" function |
It is also proper etiquette to add
"do not archive " to useless posts.
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Milt
2003 F1 Rocket
2006 Radial Rocket
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