---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/05/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:45 AM - Hi Friend, (Bill Czygan) 2. 06:45 AM - Re: Odyssey Battery Alternative (Charlie England) 3. 07:37 AM - Re: Effects of Battery Disconnect with Good Alternator? (rckol) 4. 07:47 AM - Possible Hijacked eMail Account - Bill Czygan (jerb) 5. 09:55 AM - Re: Odyssey Battery Alternative (Ernest Christley) 6. 01:16 PM - Re: Possible Hijacked eMail Account - Bill Czygan (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 7. 01:18 PM - Re: SD-8 self-excitation in Z-13/8 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 8. 01:31 PM - Re: Assessing risk in my design (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 9. 06:33 PM - Re: ICom headset adapter (special4) 10. 07:55 PM - Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable (Robin Hou) 11. 08:29 PM - Re: Odyssey Battery Alternative (Dale Rogers) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:10 AM PST US From: Bill Czygan Subject: AeroElectric-List: Hi Friend, =C2- =C2- Hi Friend, How are you doing recently? I would like to introduce you a very good compa ny which I know. Their website is *www.myehomebuy*They can offer you all ki nds of Electronic products like laptops, gps,TV LCD,cell phones,ps3,MP3/4, etc.... ....Please take some time to have a check, There must have something you'd like to buy. Their contact email: myehomebuy_service@188.com MSN:=C2- myehomebuy-easylife@hotmail.com Hope you have a good mood in shopping from their company! Best Regards =C2- Julie! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:08 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Odyssey Battery Alternative Dale Rogers wrote: > > Bill Bradburry wrote: >> >> >> Talk about your bang for the buck! >> I am using the BB Battery. The price is in the $30 range. The >> BP17-12 is >> the same size as the 680 and weighs 13.5 lbs. The BP20-12 is also >> the same >> size and weighs 14.0 lbs. >> See the specs here: >> >> http://www.bb-battery.com/productsbp.asp >> >> Since I plan to change out one of my batteries each year, it doesn't >> make >> sense to me to pay over $100 when I can pay under $50. >> > > Made in mainland (PDRC) China? > > Dale R. If this is intended to be a political question, it begs another. Have you bought any gas for your plane or car lately (terrorism)? Or virtually any other consumer product (China again)? I think that it's instructional that around 50 years of economic isolation of Cuba has left it virtually unchanged in it's government, economy or human rights. While after 30 years of trade with China it isn't 'free', but it's a lot closer than it was 30 years ago, and its people are certainly a bit better off economically. I have an 'alternative' view of this stuff. I think that change must come from within, & if you want to have external influence, the best way to drive it is to let the citizens see how good it *could* be, with better government. Charlie ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:51 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Effects of Battery Disconnect with Good Alternator? From: "rckol" Yes, interesting question. If the battery is functional, no need for the self-excitation circuit. If the battery is not functional, the alternator is likely to quickly trip out with overvoltage? Perhaps a depleted battery (shame on me for having such thing) can serve as a damper? -------- rck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237807#237807 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:03 AM PST US From: jerb Subject: AeroElectric-List: Possible Hijacked eMail Account - Bill Czygan Hey List Monitor - It appears Bill Czygan's email account may have been hijacked. Reference message posted to aeroelectric-list by Bill Czygan with date of: 4:42AM 4/5/2009 having topic of Hi Friend. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:05 AM PST US From: Ernest Christley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Odyssey Battery Alternative Charlie England wrote: > > > Dale Rogers wrote: >> >> Made in mainland (PDRC) China? >> >> Dale R. > > I have an 'alternative' view of this stuff. I think that change must > come from within, & if you want to have external influence, the best > way to drive it is to let the citizens see how good it *could* be, > with better government. > > Charlie Heh, Charlie, to drive home that point and bring it back around to aviation, someone asked that Russian guy that defected to the US with one of their MiGs about what made him do it. I can't remember his name, but I remember that with all the propaganda the government showed him depicting how terrible it was to live in American cities, he couldn't get past the question of who owned all those cars. The largest, strongest oak tree will always rot from the inside. -- http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:52 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Possible Hijacked eMail Account - Bill Czygan At 09:45 AM 4/5/2009, you wrote: > >Hey List Monitor - It appears Bill Czygan's email account may have >been hijacked. anomaly noted. Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:18:29 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: SD-8 self-excitation in Z-13/8 At 09:35 AM 4/4/2009, you wrote: > >Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: >> >> I will suggest that a second E-bus feed directly from the >> battery for combined with well considered preventative >> maintenance is the best hedge against loss of battery >> contactor. This takes the sans battery performance of >> the alternator/regulator out of the equation. >Given a Z-13/8 architecture, what is the point in making the SD-8 >self exciting? The battery is always present even if the battery >contactor fails. Yeah, in a 13/8 configuration the self-excitation feature is redundant. I was just putting it into all the drawings citing the SD-8. It would be a pretty cool thing if B&C would make this feature a part of their stock regulator. Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:23 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Assessing risk in my design >The alternator circuit does have crowbar over voltage protection but >the capacitor is wired in parallel before the relay. There is an >inline fuse between the alternator and the capacitor but is the >capacitor at risk here? And what is that risk? > >Help in understanding the risks is appreciated. Catastrophic (read spectacular) failure in these capacitors is rare. I had only one builder in 20 years contact me about the results of hooking the critter in backwards and having it deposit some corrosive goo on parts of his airplane. Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:25 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: ICom headset adapter From: "special4" Eric, A-5 connector (3.5 mm 4 pin): 1) speaker 2) MIC 3) PTT 4)GND I hope this helps. Peter -------- Sportsflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237905#237905 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:37 PM PST US From: Robin Hou Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable Hi Bakerocb, - Sorry for the late reply.- We took a trip from our home base in So. Cal. to Carlsbad, NM.- We just got back tonight after 5 hours flighting turbul ence and-50 knt headwind.- That is a story for another day. - The demo mode is activated by grounding pin 75 when power up.- Once up, y ou can access "Demo Setup" screen by hitting "MENU" key until it shows up. >From this "Demo Setup" screen, you can enter TRK, GS, POS, ALT, VS, and sel ect to "MOVE" or "STOP".- Make your desired changes then "ENT" follow by "MENU" for changes to take place. - The PC trainer is easy to use and you can leave your 400W in your plane.- But I am new to the Garmin 400W world and I just want to play with my 420W from the comfort of my home.- Your choice ;-) - Regards, - Robin Hou 64 S35 N7947K KEMT --- On Sat, 4/4/09, bakerocb@cox.net wrote: From: bakerocb@cox.net Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable oo.com 4/4/2009 Hello Robin, Please tell me more about this demo mode. How does one get int o it and use it? I can't find out anything about it in my 430W manual. If you have the Garmin trainer on your computer how does the demo mode comp are to the trainer? Thanks. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." =================== Time: 02:57:59 PM PST US From: Robin Hou Subject: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W Power cable Hi Listers, - I am happy to report back that my $10 D-Sub 78-pin male connector from Mous er works fine for my at-home-power-cable.- I connected pin 19 & 20 to +12 v, and-75, 77 & 78 to negative.- The 420W powered up in demo mode just fine. - Thanks to-all who replied. - Robin =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:29:49 PM PST US From: Dale Rogers Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Odyssey Battery Alternative Charlie England wrote: > Dale Rogers wrote: >> Made in mainland (PDRC) China? > > If this is intended to be a political question, it begs another. Have > you bought any gas for your plane or car lately (terrorism)? Or > virtually any other consumer product (China again)? > > I think that it's instructional that around 50 years of economic > isolation of Cuba has left it virtually unchanged in it's government, > economy or human rights. While after 30 years of trade with China it > isn't 'free', but it's a lot closer than it was 30 years ago, and its > people are certainly a bit better off economically. > > I have an 'alternative' view of this stuff. I think that change must > come from within, & if you want to have external influence, the best > way to drive it is to let the citizens see how good it *could* be, > with better government. Charlie, It wasn't ~intended~ to be "political" - more of a QA issue. There's been a lot of contaminated product coming from the PRC. I've seen a lot of poor quality hardware (tools, shop equipment, electronics) coming from there. Dunno if I want my electric-dependent airplane to rely on a battery coming from such an environment. 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