---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/11/09: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:00 PM - Crimping lugs onto CCA Cable (Paul McAllister) 2. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: Odyssey Battery Alternative - ANOTHER DATA POINT (Bill Schlatterer) 3. 08:38 PM - Com Antenna Install (lwhitlow) 4. 08:42 PM - Dynon Ammeter Shunt (lwhitlow) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:10 PM PST US From: Paul McAllister Subject: AeroElectric-List: Crimping lugs onto CCA Cable HI All, I am moving the battery in my Europa further aft and I have decided to remo ve the welding cable and use the copper clad aluminum cable that Eric sells .- I noticed a thread a while back discussing the issue of soldering wicking i ts way up the cable so I decided to crimp my lugs instead, however I was wo ndering if there is any issue with the aluminum "creeping" over time.- The reason I ask is that there was a trend about 30 years ago to use alumin um cable in heavy industry, but they found the cost of ongoing maintenance out weighed the costs savings of the cheaper cable. Anyhow,- any input or best practices would be appreciated. Thanks,- Paul =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:18 PM PST US From: "Bill Schlatterer" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: re: Odyssey Battery Alternative - ANOTHER DATA POINT A note on Odyssey technology. They tell me this applies to the smaller batteries as well but this specific comparison is on their fleet battery. Odyssey designs what they term a "initial pulse discharge" ability into the battery so that you get significantly improved CCA for the first few seconds which they claim is one of the reasons that their batteries start better. Discharge over time is also significantly improved. Not all batteries are designed this way. If you look at the attached charts, you can see the comparison of initial discharge rates compared to other competitive batteries. In particular, the OPTIMA series which is a true "gel" cell "shoot it with a rifle and still crank the car" battery. OPTIMA is a great battery, just too heavy for our purposes but the Odyssey is better. No comparison at all to the lead acid group. Not sure if this applies to all AGM class batteries but Odyssey made a believer out of me with regard to their technology. I also think their data is accurate. Just another "something to think about"? Bill S 7a finishing. -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: re: Odyssey Battery Alternative --> At 03:25 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote: >Has anyone used one of these batteries and have any info/user reports >that may be useful in determining whether it's suitable in an aircraft? >Their site lists this as a "sealed valve regulated design," is this >comparable to the AGM batteries Odyssey sells? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRLA RG (recombinant gas), AGM (absorbed glass mat), VRSLA (valve regulated sealed lead acid), and "starved electrolyte, glass mat", and perhaps a dozen other variations on the theme are all siblings. Specific products may claim a superior performance in some regard like longer shelf life, higher cranking power, greater ruggedness, virgin lead, etc. etc. Any of these features may well have proven to add value in the laboratory comparison with other technologies . . . but in real service aboard airplanes, the day-to-day "abuses" that depart from the laboratory demonstrations tend to be the true limiting factor in service life. Take laboratory grade care of your battery and it will probably deliver a good service life. Just keep in mind that all other things being equal, price does not deliver proportionate increases in ANY performance parameter. Virtually every battery that does not audibly "slosh" when you shake it is some form of "sealed" device and therefore "comparable" to all other products of the same class . . . lead-acid batteries not open to atmosphere. Finally, if the old "slosher" Rebat, Concorde and Gill batteries of yesteryear were ever considered suitable for use aboard airplanes, then ANY sealed device you can put your hands today is MORE suited. Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:36 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Com Antenna Install From: "lwhitlow" Hi All Attached is a picture of my COM antenna. To be mounted in the reinforced portion of the turtledeck on the upper rear of the Baggage area on my Zenith 601XL Question is How do I hook it up?? Crimp a ring terminal on to the center conductor of the RG-400 and attach that with the nut to the bottom of the antenna, and attach another ring terminal to the shield and connect it to WHERE??? Help me or gurus of the RF Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238744#238744 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0111_137.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:15 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Dynon Ammeter Shunt From: "lwhitlow" Ok one more question I have a Jab 3300 on my 601 XL i'm using a DYNON EMS-D120 Where should I connect the shunt to be the most useful Ive seen a diagram floating around showing the various connection options and what you wind up measuring but I can't seen to find it now and I'm hot and heavy into pulling wire. Thanks in advance Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238745#238745 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.