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Fri 05/29/09


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 12:37 AM - Re: Re: KX-125 Installation Manual? (Werner Schneider)
     2. 10:59 AM - Stereo to Mono (Don McIntosh)
     3. 11:34 AM - Re: Stereo to Mono (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 03:09 PM - Re: Stereo to Mono (Don McIntosh)
     5. 03:56 PM - Re: Re: Stereo to Mono (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     6. 04:25 PM - Re: Stereo to Mono (Ray)
     7. 05:26 PM - Under-Glareshield GPS/WAAS Antenna ()
     8. 08:19 PM - Re: Stereo to Mono (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:37:58 AM PST US
    From: Werner Schneider <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: KX-125 Installation Manual?
    done iconoclast wrote: > > If it's not too much trouble, can you please PM me the KX 125 manual also? I'm adding a second com and need to patch into the harness for my 125. > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245836#245836 > > >


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    Time: 10:59:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Stereo to Mono
    From: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
    I want to install a plug in my panel to plug my stereo Walkman into but my intercom (PM1000 II) is mono. Can I just splice the Right and Left leads together to go into the intercom? Also the intercom pins are labeled "HI" and "LOW". Is this just the pin identification numbers? -------- Don McIntosh Kitfox Series 7 under construction Jabiru 3300 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245926#245926


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    Time: 11:34:14 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Stereo to Mono
    At 12:58 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote: ><don@contractorsnorthwest.com> > >I want to install a plug in my panel to plug my stereo Walkman into >but my intercom (PM1000 II) is mono. Can I just splice the Right and >Left leads together to go into the intercom? Also the intercom pins >are labeled "HI" and "LOW". Is this just the pin identification numbers? Put a 100 ohm, 1/4w resistor in series with the two stereo output before bringing them together at the "HI" input terminal. The "LOW" terminal is ground. Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ----------------------------------------


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    Time: 03:09:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stereo to Mono
    From: "Don McIntosh" <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
    Bob, Thanks for the answer. OK, so behind the panel, where do you mount these resistors, or are they just soldered in-line with heat shrink over them?BTW I am in process of reading your book. -------- Don McIntosh Kitfox Series 7 under construction Jabiru 3300 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245963#245963


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    Time: 03:56:09 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Stereo to Mono
    At 05:08 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote: ><don@contractorsnorthwest.com> > >Bob, >Thanks for the answer. OK, so behind the panel, where do you mount >these resistors, or are they just soldered in-line with heat shrink over them? Given the relatively low priority for comfortable terminaion of flight, I think I'd build them into the wire bundle and heat shrink 'em. See: http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Homeless/Homeless_Components.htm >BTW I am in process of reading your book. Great! If you have any questions, post them here on the List. Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ----------------------------------------


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    Time: 04:25:30 PM PST US
    From: Ray <raymondj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Stereo to Mono
    Bob, Just a quick question. It the resistor to lower the voltage at the intercom or is it related to what the CD player output sees? Or something completely different. If it is to lower the voltage, should the voltage be in the same range as the other inputs to the intercom? Thanks, Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst" do not archive Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> > > At 12:58 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote: >> <don@contractorsnorthwest.com> >> >> I want to install a plug in my panel to plug my stereo Walkman into >> but my intercom (PM1000 II) is mono. Can I just splice the Right and >> Left leads together to go into the intercom? Also the intercom pins >> are labeled "HI" and "LOW". Is this just the pin identification numbers? > > Put a 100 ohm, 1/4w resistor in series with the two > stereo output before bringing them together at the > "HI" input terminal. The "LOW" terminal is ground. > > > Bob . . . > > ----------------------------------------) > ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) > ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) > ( appearance of being right . . . ) > ( ) > ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:26:15 PM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Under-Glareshield GPS/WAAS Antenna
    5/29/2009 Hello Fellow Listers, A while back there was a thread initiated by a question on where to best mount a GPS WAAS antenna. Below is a copy of an FAA SPECIAL AIRWORTHINESS INFORMATION BULLETIN that relates to tlhis subject. A couple of comments: 1) 3MT Dual LockT is 3M's version of a Velcro like product. http://www.andybaird.com/travels/gertie/superlock.htm 2) My GNS 430W antenna mounted on an aluminum shelf under the fiberglass fuselage shell forward of the windshield on my KIS TR-1 has given excellent service. The antenna is mounted with machine screws. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ========================================================== 1 FAA Aircraft Certification Service SPECIAL AIRWORTHINESS INFORMATION BULLETIN SUBJ: Navigation: Cirrus Aircraft Under-Glareshield GPS/WAAS Antenna SAIB: CE-09-32 Mount Date: May 29, 2009 This is information only. Recommendations aren't mandatory. Introduction This Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin is being issued to alert owners and installers to an airworthiness concern regarding under-glareshield mounted antennas that may cause loss of Global Positioning System/Wide-Area Augmentation System (GPS/WAAS) navigation service on Cirrus Design Corporation (Cirrus) Models SR20 and SR22 airplanes. This Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin applies to all Cirrus aircraft with GPS/WAAS antennas installed using the original under-glareshield mounting location when replacing the non-WAAS GPS antenna. The airworthiness concern is not an unsafe condition that would warrant airworthiness directive (AD) action under Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) Part 39. Background Cirrus originally incorporated an internal mounting location under the aircraft glareshield for non- WAAS GPS antennas on the Models SR20 and SR22 airplanes as part of the aircraft type design. These antennas were secured using the 3MT Dual LockT Reclosable Fastener SJ3552 (Type 170) engaged to 3MT Dual LockT Reclosable Fastener SJ3551 (Type 400). This method to secure the antennas was evaluated during the type certification process and found satisfactory. To upgrade the non-WAAS GPS equipment to GPS/WAAS capability requires new antennas that may be installed in the same location using the same fastener method as the non-WAAS antennas. There are two potential issues for GPS/WAAS service associated with the under-glareshield mounting location and fastener method: 1) robustness of the antenna mounting method; and 2) Localizer Performance with Vertical Guidance (LPV) service interruption due to signal loss from airframe shadowing. Both issues affect service availability and may ultimately result in loss of GPS/WAAS navigation capability. Loss of GPS/WAAS navigation capability requires the operator to rely on other on-board navigation equipment that may not have area navigation or LPV capability. Antenna Mounting Robustness Two service difficulty reports (S8Y2008F00000 and 2007FA0000554) indicate the possibility for antennas secured using the 3MT Dual LockT fastener system to detach, which would result in loss of navigation. A detached antenna will not have an adequate field of view to receive satellite signals resulting in loss of GPS/WAAS navigation. Airframe Shadowing Cirrus airplanes use composite construction, which, unlike metal aircraft, is essentially transparent to radio signals. There is always concern that metal components such as engines, instrument panels, or embedded metal mesh for lightening protection can affect GPS/WAAS signal reception for internally mounted antennas. Antenna location, even on composite aircraft, can have an affect on GPS/WAAS 2 signal availability due to signal shadowing and/or attenuation effects. Shadowing and attenuation are more critical during LPV operations due to the more stringent requirements receivers must meet. The current receiver and antenna performance standards use a conservative estimate for intra-system noise environment and antenna gain patterns that provides significant signal margin. However, the margin available today will gradually decrease as new systems, signals, and satellites come on-line over the next decade. This decrease could potentially cause decreased LPV availability or loss of GPS/WAAS navigation on Cirrus aircraft with antennas mounted under the glareshield. Recommendations We recommend that owners and operators of Cirrus Models SR20 and SR22 airplanes using the under-glareshield location for GPS/WAAS antennas relocate the antennas to upper fuselage external locations following Cirrus Optional Service Bulletins SB 2X-34-23 R1 (for aircraft without a primary flight display) or SB 2X-34-24 R1 (for aircraft with a primary flight display). Relocating the antennas according to the Optional Service Bulletins provides a more robust antenna mounting; and assures maximum GPS/WAAS signal reception for optimum service availability when performing LPV instrument approaches. To obtain copies of Cirrus Optional Service Bulletins SB 2X-34-23 R1 or SB 2X-34-24 R1, contact Cirrus Design Corporation, 4515 Taylor Circle Duluth, MN 5581-1548 or visit their website at www.cirruslink.com/mycirrus/servicepubs.aspx. For Further Information Contact Kevin J. Bridges, General Engineer, AIR-130; phone: (202) 385-4627; fax: (202) 385-4651; e-mail: kevin.bridges@faa.gov.


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    Time: 08:19:09 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Stereo to Mono
    At 06:24 PM 5/29/2009, you wrote: > >Bob, > > Just a quick question. It the resistor to lower the > voltage at the intercom or is it related to what the CD player > output sees? Or something completely different. If it is to lower > the voltage, should the voltage be in the same range as the other > inputs to the intercom? The resistors are a crude "audio mixer" that gives you a mono-average of right and left channels. It also isolates the right and left audio amplifiers from each other so that diverse audio signal levels in the two channels don't cause the two amplifiers to arm-wrestle. The resistors can be lower . . . say the same as for MP3 player headphones . . . 33 ohms. But you probably won't hear much loss of signal that cannot be compensated for by turning up the volume on the audio device. Bob . . . ----------------------------------------) ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ----------------------------------------




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