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Mon 06/22/09


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 07:57 AM - EGT instrument test (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 09:20 AM - Re: Burning Vans Engine Gauges - Part 3 (JakeTheBosun)
     3. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: Burning Vans Engine Gauges - Part 3 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:57:58 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: EGT instrument test
    >Comments/Questions: Pete at Westach tells me that if I can apply a >3.5mv current to the EGT, that it should read 1500f on the >meter. Do you know where to get something that I can apply such an >electric voltage. They have a chart for all the different voltages >and resulting readings, on their web site. 3.5 mV is a bit low for 1500F . . . I think it's more like 35.0 mV. See: http://www.omega.com/temperature/Z/pdf/z218-220.pdf "Applying voltage" to a thermocouple readout is but a gross test of functionality. Significant errors can be introduced unless the voltage is applied with consideration for "parasitic thermocouple junctions". See: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/excerpt.pdf Assuming that you're interested in doing a gross functionality test at 34mV, then you can craft this little test rig. Emacs! A couple of easily acquired resistors from Radio Shack and a AA battery holder. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId 62247 http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId 62338 http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2994588 wired as shown will get you a voltage in the right ball park. If all the errors are accounted for, your instrument will read 1504F, but if it's off by as much as 50 degrees, I wouldn't worry about it. An accurate calibration test of the instrument will require more attention to details. Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------


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    Time: 09:20:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Burning Vans Engine Gauges - Part 3
    From: "JakeTheBosun" <george@yukonflying.com>
    Well I spent some time with the ammeter, with and without engine running. There appeared to be no overheating. There is less than an amp at the instrument buss. There is less than 4 amps overall at the alternator once it recovers from start. I even tried banging on the alternator while it was running. All the grounds and connections have been checked. ....all I am left with is the assumption that the alternator ran away....cooked the resistors in the gauges, and they finished melting when it was producing within limits. Also I think that the "starting" draw down is not good. I plan to change the alternator and instruments. I wonder if anyone has suggestion about isloating instruments during start cycle? Thanks! -------- Jake Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249534#249534


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    Time: 11:49:23 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Burning Vans Engine Gauges - Part 3
    At 11:19 AM 6/22/2009, you wrote: ><george@yukonflying.com> > >Well I spent some time with the ammeter, with and without engine >running. There appeared to be no overheating. There is less than an >amp at the instrument buss. There is less than 4 amps overall at >the alternator once it recovers from start. I even tried banging on >the alternator while it was running. All the grounds and connections >have been checked. > >....all I am left with is the assumption that the alternator ran >away....cooked the resistors in the gauges, and they finished >melting when it was producing within limits. Also I think that the >"starting" draw down is not good. > >I plan to change the alternator and instruments. I wonder if anyone >has suggestion about isloating instruments during start cycle? What alternator/regulator combination are you using? Do you have any form of OV protection? Any OV event that is even slightly hazardous to aircraft electro-whizzies is easily managed by appropriate protection. Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------




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