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1. 05:51 AM - Re: Situational awareness as an instrument of flight redux (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 06:46 AM - Re: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness as an instrument of flight redux (Chris Stone)
3. 06:46 AM - offtopic: the goodie of todays communication world (Werner Schneider)
4. 11:41 AM - Re: D.A.R question about fuse access ()
5. 11:52 AM - Fuseblock drawings (Sam Hoskins)
6. 12:18 PM - Re: offtopic: the goodie of todays communication world (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 12:19 PM - Re: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness as an instrument of flight redux (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 01:15 PM - Re: Fuseblock drawings (jaybannist@cs.com)
9. 02:14 PM - Re: Fuseblock drawings (Sam Hoskins)
10. 02:14 PM - Re: Exp Bus (John B Szantho)
11. 03:11 PM - Re: Fuseblock drawings (Richard Tasker)
12. 03:55 PM - Re: glass fuses (Ernest Kells)
13. 05:16 PM - Re: D.A.R question about fuse access (Ernest Christley)
14. 06:11 PM - Re: glass fuses (Bob McCallum)
15. 08:06 PM - Fat feed confusion (Bob Barrow)
16. 08:27 PM - Re: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness as an instrument of flight redux (Chris)
17. 08:51 PM - Re: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness as an instrument of flight redux (Chris)
18. 09:09 PM - Re: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness as an instrument of flight redux (Bill Hibbing)
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| Subject: | Re: Situational awareness as an instrument of flight |
redux
>>> . . . . I further demonstrated
>>> that if the horizon is visible over the nose, you cannot
>>> be too slow. After that, paying attention to power settings
>>> pretty much covers the bases for not having an unhappy day
>>> in the pattern.
>>That instrument only works for people of the same height. It has
>>to be recalibrated for some of us 8*)
>
> Yeah . . . that's why I was happy the thing averaged
> 80 . . .
>
> Short guys IAS was a little slower,
Got that backwards! Must have been too much
hauling furniture in the 100+ heat for two
days! Obviously, if the individual is shorter
then for any given deck angle, his response
would be to LOWER the nose to bring it back
into alignment with the horizon, i.e. IAS
will he HIGHER for the same gross weight,
and power setting. Had hard time getting
to sleep last night thinking about it and
discovering my brain-f#@t . . .
Probably need to avoid heavy thinking for a
few days. We got Dr. Dee's office spaces
90% moved (probably 1000 pounds of books
and another 500 pounds of filing cabinets.
I'm trying whole-house wi-fi to avoid
stringing lots of cat-5 cable. After an
arm wrestling match with "Network Magic"
I tossed it out and studied the semi-lame
instructions for the router. Got it to
come up nicely with the MAC address filtering
mode for security so the ground has been
prepared for expanding the network to the
house and shop.
When Dad built this house, I strung hundreds
of feet of of twin-lead antenna and twisted-pair phone
lines around. Today, none of those wires
are in use. A single strand of glass comes to
the back of the house to deliver telephone,
high speed Internet, and soon to be TV. Both
Internet and telephone are hardwired from the
fiber modem to network nodes that move
all data around the house over spread-
spectrum radio.
My Dad would be fascinated with all that is
changing with the house he built in 4 years
of "spare" time 44 years ago.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness as |
an instrument of flight redux
Bob et al...
Since we are quickly moving to a wireless world...
I haven't seen wireless aircraft headsets.
This seems like an ideal application for the technology.
Is anyone making such a device?
Chris Stone
RV-8
Oregon
> I'm trying whole-house wi-fi to avoid
> stringing lots of cat-5 cable. After an
> arm wrestling match with "Network Magic"
> I tossed it out and studied the semi-lame
> instructions for the router. Got it to
> come up nicely with the MAC address filtering
> mode for security so the ground has been
> prepared for expanding the network to the
> house and shop.
>>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | offtopic: the goodie of todays communication world |
Hello Bob,
off topic as not aircraft related.
Bob, you can go even a step further, my Audio setup consists of several
Logitech boxes (squeezebox receiver, boom, duett
<http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/products/overview.html>) all feed
from a software called squeezecenter running on a NAS (Network attached
storage) a box smaller then a shoebox. All my CD's are stored on that,
all songs downloaded, streaming is trough WLAN from that box and radio
is Internet based, so wherever I am, I can listen to my favourite radio
station as long as WLAN and broadband are there (also in my shop 30
yards away). Next step is TV, a central TV server will be able to stream
via high band WLAN to any (Laptop) TV client. Not yet there but close.
My TV lives on the LAN too, so music and pictures from the NAS can be
streamed on the 42" in addition.
Telephony: my home base number is on a SIP account provider, going into
holidays, you just take your phone number with you and hook it up on any
broadband access (did that last year in Australia) calling cost are local.
The modern digital world of communication....
Werner
do not archive
Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>
>
> When Dad built this house, I strung hundreds
> of feet of of twin-lead antenna and twisted-pair phone
> lines around. Today, none of those wires
> are in use. A single strand of glass comes to
> the back of the house to deliver telephone,
> high speed Internet, and soon to be TV. Both
> Internet and telephone are hardwired from the
> fiber modem to network nodes that move
> all data around the house over spread-
> spectrum radio.
>
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| Subject: | D.A.R question about fuse access |
Ernest, you are definitely a geek. Why not try an electric engine?
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Ernest Christley
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: D.A.R question about fuse access
<echristley@nc.rr.com>
Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> At 05:25 PM 7/15/2009, you wrote:
>> Good Evening Glenn,
>>
>> My primary instructor kept the airspeed covered up most of the time.
>> I learned to control airspeed via the sound and by the feel of the
>> controls.
>>
>> Who needs an airspeed indicator?<G>
>
> Only those not skilled in doing without them. When I
> checked out new renters in our 150's I used to demonstrate
> that "sticking the upper edge of the cowl on the
> horizon" got you an 80 mph climb. I further demonstrated
> that if the horizon is visible over the nose, you cannot
> be too slow. After that, paying attention to power settings
> pretty much covers the bases for not having an unhappy day
> in the pattern.
That instrument only works for people of the same height. It has to be
recalibrated for some of us 8*)
--
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org
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| Subject: | Fuseblock drawings |
Is there a .dwg file of the fuseblocks, besides the isometric view? I am
looking for a 2-D version that I can use to label for easy I.D. of the fuse
size, and the wire that attaches to it.
Thanks.
Sam Hoskins
www.samhoskins.blogspot.com
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| Subject: | Re: offtopic: the goodie of todays communication |
world
At 08:40 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote:
>
>Hello Bob,
>
>off topic as not aircraft related.
>
>Bob, you can go even a step further, my Audio setup consists of
>several Logitech boxes (squeezebox receiver, boom, duett
><http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/products/overview.html>)
Interesting! I'll check it out. Thanks!
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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| Subject: | Re: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness |
as an instrument of flight redux
At 08:41 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote:
>
>Bob et al...
>
>Since we are quickly moving to a wireless world...
>I haven't seen wireless aircraft headsets.
>This seems like an ideal application for the technology.
You got that right. I'm thinking I saw an article
on a DIY OBAM aircraft wireless headset project but don't
recall where. Getting one 'approved' to go into an airplane
might be another matter. But totally wireless would be
a real breath of fresh air in the cockpit of most
airplanes.
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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| Subject: | Re: Fuseblock drawings |
Sam,
Here is a dwg file and a pdf drawing of the 8-fuse block that is in my airplane.
Jay Bannister
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 17, 2009 1:49 pm
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Fuseblock drawings
Is there a .dwg file of the fuseblocks, besides the isometric view?? I am looking
for a 2-D version that I can use to label for easy I.D. of the fuse size, and
the wire that attaches to it.
Thanks.
Sam Hoskins
www.samhoskins.blogspot.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuseblock drawings |
Great, Jay! Saved me a bunch of time!
Sam
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:12 PM, <jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
> Sam,
>
> Here is a dwg file and a pdf drawing of the 8-fuse block that is in my
> airplane.
>
> Jay Bannister
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@gmail.com>
> To: Aerolectric List <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 17, 2009 1:49 pm
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Fuseblock drawings
>
> Is there a .dwg file of the fuseblocks, besides the isometric view? I am
> looking for a 2-D version that I can use to label for easy I.D. of the fuse
> size, and the wire that attaches to it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sam Hoskins
> www.samhoskins.blogspot.com
>
>
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>
>
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Can I use the Exp Bus as a device (35-60 Amp Fuse) on the Main Power
Distribution Bus (Z11). Do I need to put a diode between the two buses and
what kind? I have an Exp Bus and would like to find out if I can use it on
the Main Bus. Just wondering if this is doable.
John Szantho
RV9A
jszantho@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuseblock drawings |
Here are the two sizes that I use in AutoCAD ver14 dwg format.
If you need them in another format, let me know.
Dick Tasker
Sam Hoskins wrote:
> Is there a .dwg file of the fuseblocks, besides the isometric view? I
> am looking for a 2-D version that I can use to label for easy I.D. of
> the fuse size, and the wire that attaches to it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sam Hoskins
> www.samhoskins.blogspot.com <http://www.samhoskins.blogspot.com>
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Bob:
Please reread my post. I said that I have only ONE glass fuse - all
others are ATO fuses - with fuse busses. I stated that there is only
ONE case whereby the glass fuse is justified - in my opinion. I still
believe it - and I have given away my in-line fuse holders and all of
the glass fuses.
Ernest Kells
Ernest;
Why an inline "glass" fuse???? The ATO style fuse is a much better
choice with its one piece design, high pressure contacts etc. All the
same reasons that the automotive world went blade style to replace the
"old technology" "glass" fuses. No soldered end caps to come loose, no
low pressure contacts to corrode and fail. ATO/ATC is a much more
reliable choice.
This holder is even waterproof. Good for 30A.
http://tinyurl.com/l4eaae Similar holders are available for the Maxi
series as well if you require higher ratings.
Bob McC
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Ernest Kells
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:04 PM
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: glass fuses
Rich and others:
Actually. Rick I ended up deciding there was ONE application for an
in-line "glass" fuse. That is the always LIVE when the Master Switch is
ON. I put my only in-line glass fuse immediately behind the top of the
firewall. It's hard to replace - but the hot wire is only several inches
long - with no chance to rub anything.
Ernest Kells RV-9A
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| Subject: | Re: D.A.R question about fuse access |
longg@pjm.com wrote:
>
> Ernest, you are definitely a geek. Why not try an electric engine?
>
-Weight.
-Power availability.
-Range.
Technology is improving, but it isn't there.....yet.
--
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org
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Ernest;
I did originally read your post carefully and still wonder why you would
retain the "ONE" glass fuse. Why not use an ATO here as well?? That was the
point of my post, not that you didn't use ATO for all others, just why
retain the single glass one when you are obviously aware of the superiority
of the ATO style? Is the justification that it's already there and hard to
replace?? Thus the most difficult to access fuse is also the least reliable
and most likely to fail?? Not meaning to be critical, just not understanding
the logic.
Bob McC
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest
Kells
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: glass fuses
Bob:
Please reread my post. I said that I have only ONE glass fuse - all others
are ATO fuses - with fuse busses. I stated that there is only ONE case
whereby the glass fuse is justified - in my opinion. I still believe it -
and I have given away my in-line fuse holders and all of the glass fuses.
Ernest Kells
Ernest;
Why an inline "glass" fuse???? The ATO style fuse is a much better choice
with its one piece design, high pressure contacts etc. All the same reasons
that the automotive world went blade style to replace the "old technology"
"glass" fuses. No soldered end caps to come loose, no low pressure contacts
to corrode and fail. ATO/ATC is a much more reliable choice.
This holder is even waterproof. Good for 30A. http://tinyurl.com/l4eaae
Similar holders are available for the Maxi series as well if you require
higher ratings.
Bob McC
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest
Kells
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: glass fuses
Rich and others:
Actually. Rick I ended up deciding there was ONE application for an in-line
"glass" fuse. That is the always LIVE when the Master Switch is ON. I put my
only in-line glass fuse immediately behind the top of the firewall. It's
hard to replace - but the hot wire is only several inches long - with no
chance to rub anything.
Ernest Kells RV-9A
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| Subject: | Fat feed confusion |
I note in a June post that Bob Nuckolls said that "fat feed" wires (6 AWG o
r larger) do not need a fuse or current limiter. I understand the logic beh
ind that.
However I note in the Nuckolls Z14 architecture that the wire between the C
rossfeed Contactor and the Auxiliary Bus is 10 AWG and has no protection.
Why is this an exception to the rule.
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| Subject: | Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness |
as an instrument of flight redux
The Navy helicopter world has been toying around with wireless com. For
instance long chords used by crew chiefs when standing out front during
start up or walking back and forth in the cabin (MH-53E) have proven to be a
safety hazard when trying to egress during ditching. The main issues with
going wireless in the Navy is making it a secure communication channel and
also making sure the crew is not heard by another crew during formation
flight or on the flight line. I am sure OBAM needs would not be as great
and it would be more doable.
-Chris
RV-10
#40072
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness
as an instrument of flight redux
<nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
At 08:41 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote:
<rv8iator@earthlink.net>
>
>Bob et al...
>
>Since we are quickly moving to a wireless world...
>I haven't seen wireless aircraft headsets.
>This seems like an ideal application for the technology.
You got that right. I'm thinking I saw an article
on a DIY OBAM aircraft wireless headset project but don't
recall where. Getting one 'approved' to go into an airplane
might be another matter. But totally wireless would be
a real breath of fresh air in the cockpit of most
airplanes.
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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| Subject: | Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness as |
an instrument of flight redux
In case you are interested I found this on google.
-Chris
RV-10
http://www.multispectral.com/pdf/MSSI161103b.pdf
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Stone
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness as
an instrument of flight redux
Bob et al...
Since we are quickly moving to a wireless world...
I haven't seen wireless aircraft headsets.
This seems like an ideal application for the technology.
Is anyone making such a device?
Chris Stone
RV-8
Oregon
> I'm trying whole-house wi-fi to avoid
> stringing lots of cat-5 cable. After an
> arm wrestling match with "Network Magic"
> I tossed it out and studied the semi-lame
> instructions for the router. Got it to
> come up nicely with the MAC address filtering
> mode for security so the ground has been
> prepared for expanding the network to the
> house and shop.
>>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bluetooth headsets was Situational awareness |
as an instrument of flight redux
I haven't had a chance to read it yet but the issue of "QST" that arrived
today had an article about setting up a blue tooth type connection to
amateur transceivers. Might be something to look into.
Bill
Glasair
>>
>>Since we are quickly moving to a wireless world...
>>I haven't seen wireless aircraft headsets.
>>This seems like an ideal application for the technology.
>
> You got that right. I'm thinking I saw an article
> on a DIY OBAM aircraft wireless headset project but don't
> recall where. Getting one 'approved' to go into an airplane
> might be another matter. But totally wireless would be
> a real breath of fresh air in the cockpit of most
> airplanes.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ---------------------------------------
> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
> ( appearance of being right . . . )
> ( )
> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
> ---------------------------------------
>
>
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