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1. 06:43 AM - Voltage Drops/Amps, Cabbages and Kings (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Icom A-210 intercom (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 07:13 AM - Re: [Bulk] ZU-TAF: Belem To U.S. Virgin Islands Has Launched (S. Ramirez)
4. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: Icom A-210 intercom (Sam Hoskins)
5. 12:26 PM - Re: Re: Icom A-210 intercom (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 02:13 PM - Re: Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture (Bob Lee)
7. 03:02 PM - Re: Icom A-210 intercom (Thruster87)
8. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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Subject: | Voltage Drops/Amps, Cabbages and Kings |
At 06:16 PM 7/24/2009, you wrote:
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> >From my experience debugging problems like this, it always helps to have
>an extra set of eyes (hopefully with a brain behind them) to which I
>explain how the system is supposed to work.
This is a CORE COMPONENT of every successful skunk-werks
venture. While privileged to be an employee of the
targets business unit at Beech/RAC/HBC, every time a
program or portion of a program wan in trouble, a
meeting was called. In some organizations, such
meetings are uncomfortable events entered
with foreboding. The mind-set of many folks walking
in was to figure out ways to avoid blame. If one leaves
with less stress, it's probably because they were not
found at fault and some other poor sap was taking the hit.
My leaders and colleagues both understood recipes
for success demonstrated many times in the
past by the likes of Kettering, Johnson, Kay, Beech,
Lear, et. als. They understood that it's a rare
mind that can grasp the totality of a program
and that the intellectual whole is greater than
the sum of its parts. Meetings at the Beech targets
unit were always something to be welcomed . . .
anyone walking in with a problem walked out with
new insight, additional support, a map for future
learning. Everyone walked out with a sense of
accomplishment.
This isn't about, positions of hierarchy or
competition. It's about the joy of finding things
out (being a good student) and then sharing that
understanding with others (being a good teacher).
We were all diligent students of the ideas demonstrated
by participants of the original Skunk Works.
I suggest that we would do well to bring the same
goals to the activity here on the List. Our
skunk-werks isn't a single facility, it's
thousands of facilities scattered all over the
planet. We're not working one momentous task
to be delivered in 180 days, we have thousands
of projects that will take years. But the
task is the same. Produce machines that perform
to design goals operated by pilots who understand
how those goals were selected, achieved and
maintained.
Meetings at the Matronics List Servers should
always be something to be welcomed . . .
anyone posting a problem or sharing an idea
should look forward to achieving new insight, additional
support for a problem, and map for future learning.
It would be well if everyone who takes the time to
participate or simply observe happenings on the
Lists walk away with a sense of accomplishment.
Our teachers were not carving a place in history
for themselves, they were striving to share
their understanding with as many folks as
possible. They knew that the more times good ideas
and recipes for success are shared, the more
valuable they become.
Bob . . .
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( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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Subject: | Re: Icom A-210 intercom |
At 10:50 PM 7/24/2009, you wrote:
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>Icom A210 receiving and transmitting just fine but the bloody
>intercom won't co-operate at all.I must be missing something in the
>menu setup so any help would be appreciated. Cheers
Can you describe your observations of symptoms?
"Won't cooperate" as a symptom does not bring ideas
to mind.
The intercom function of most of the small radios
is a "hot mic" activated by a push to talk button
that simply engages the transmitter's side tone
(listen to yourself) feature. Hence no squelch
adjustment for voice activated opening of the
signal channel . . . and no separate volume control
for intercom versus receiver. This is an exceedingly
minimalist (but very robust) approach to an intercom
function. However, it is nothing like that which is found
in most airplanes. Perhaps it's working as intended
but you're expecting something different?
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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Subject: | ZU-TAF: Belem To U.S. Virgin Islands Has |
Launched
I see on Google Earth that they've landed at H.S. Truman airport in the U.S.
Virgin Islands. Never mind what happened crossing the Atlantic. That's
ancient history! :)
Simon Ramirez
Copyright 2009
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Bradburry
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] AeroElectric-List: ZU-TAF: Belem To U.S. Virgin Islands
Has Launched
I watched them as they crossed the Atlantic..21 hours! I think they are
nuts! They needed 440 liters of gas to make the crossing. They were
carrying 450 liters!
B2
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of S.
Ramirez
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 7:19 PM
Subject: [Bulk] AeroElectric-List: ZU-TAF: Belem To U.S. Virgin Islands Has
Launched
I see that Mark and James of ZU-TAF fame have launched from Belem, Brasil
and are headed to the U.S. Virgin Islands. These two guys and their
airplane are incredible! I'm observing their flight path and their present
location on Google Earth per Jay Hyde's earlier posting/weblink, which I'm
including below. Thanks, Jay!
http://www.airplanefactory.co.za/world/default.asp
Simon Ramirez
Copyright 2009
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Subject: | Re: Icom A-210 intercom |
Here is the installation diagram and operating manual
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/avionics/panelmount/a210/default.aspx
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III<
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>
> At 10:50 PM 7/24/2009, you wrote:
>>
>> <alania@optusnet.com.au>
>>
>> Icom A210 receiving and transmitting just fine but the bloody intercom
>> won't co-operate at all.I must be missing something in the menu setup so
any
>> help would be appreciated. Cheers
>
> Can you describe your observations of symptoms?
> "Won't cooperate" as a symptom does not bring ideas
> to mind.
>
> The intercom function of most of the small radios
> is a "hot mic" activated by a push to talk button
> that simply engages the transmitter's side tone
> (listen to yourself) feature. Hence no squelch
> adjustment for voice activated opening of the
> signal channel . . . and no separate volume control
> for intercom versus receiver. This is an exceedingly
> minimalist (but very robust) approach to an intercom
> function. However, it is nothing like that which is found
> in most airplanes. Perhaps it's working as intended
> but you're expecting something different?
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ---------------------------------------
> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
> ( appearance of being right . . . )
> ( )
> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
> ---------------------------------------
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Icom A-210 intercom |
At 09:09 AM 7/25/2009, you wrote:
>Here is the installation diagram and operating manual
><http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/avionics/panelmount/a210/default.aspx>http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/avionics/panelmount/a210/default.aspx
>
Aha! This is more to this little critter than I realized.
I might have expected this from Icom. I'll have to
study up. Thanks for the heads-up.
In the mean time "Thruster87" might we know your name
along with a better description of the problems you're
having?
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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Subject: | RE: Lee KR-2 System Architecture |
Lectric Bob,
You said:
<<Okay, I've got you drawing. Let me pray over it
for a few days . . .>>
Are you still praying, or did you decide to exercise my design of using z14
for the engine (electrionic ignition, fuel pumps alternators and batteries)
and z13 (main bus and e-bus) for everything else?
Regards,
Bob Lee
N52BL KR2
Suwanee, GA USA
92% done only 67% to go!
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Subject: | Re: Icom A-210 intercom |
Hi Bob,I was expecting it to just activate [intercom] without a separate button,so
one just speaks and the other person hears you.Pressing the PTT it transmits
OK and the passenger can also hear what you say and both can hear just fine
the incoming calls.I have not tried connecting the intercom switch to pin 10
Intercom IN and joining to pin 9 PTT + as I understand it,it should not require
this switch to operate as a VOX intercom. Cheers Alan [610xl builder almost
ready to start taxi run testing]
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254719#254719
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Subject: | RE: Lee KR-2 System Architecture |
At 03:59 PM 7/25/2009, you wrote:
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>Lectric Bob,
>
>You said:
>
><<Okay, I've got you drawing. Let me pray over it
> for a few days . . .>>
>
>Are you still praying, or did you decide to exercise my design of using z14
>for the engine (electrionic ignition, fuel pumps alternators and batteries)
>and z13 (main bus and e-bus) for everything else?
I've got a plan. The kids are down for the weekend
and my grandson is looking for a lot of grandpa-time.
But I'll do a system for Corvair engines. It will
become Z-9.
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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