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1. 12:51 AM - Re: Re: what is Emacs (Michael Pereira)
2. 04:17 AM - "Emacs!" ()
3. 06:42 AM - Re: "Emacs!" (Bob White)
4. 08:02 AM - Z-31A question (johngoodman)
5. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: what is Emacs (halbenjamin@optonline.net)
6. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: what is Emacs (jaybannist@cs.com)
7. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: what is Emacs (Dj Merrill)
8. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: what is Emacs (Roger)
9. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: what is Emacs (Steve Thomas)
10. 12:41 PM - Re: Z-20: Fuse Links, Master Switch, Alt OV Disc. and OVM (Ken)
11. 01:45 PM - Garmin GNS 530 Internal Battery ()
12. 04:31 PM - Re: Z-20: Fuse Links, Master Switch, Alt OV Disc. and OVM (messydeer)
13. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: what is Emacs (Neal George)
14. 07:56 PM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 07/29/09 (Speedy11@aol.com)
15. 10:37 PM - Re: That magic moment when everything comes together..... (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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Subject: | Re: RE: what is Emacs |
Uggh,
emacs vs vi discussions turn out worse than downwind turn discussions.
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Ralph Finch<rgf@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> Emacs is a text editor. Well, thats like saying the Airbus A380 is an
> airplane. Anyway its more used in the Linux/Unix world, though versions
> exist for windows.
>
>
> Ralph Finch
>
> Davis CA
>
>
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Janet
> Amtmann
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:57 AM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/27/09
>
>
> Can someone enlighten me what the word "Emacs" means?
>
>
> Jrgen Amtmann <jgamtmann2@gmail.com>
>
>
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7/30/2009
Hello Bob Nuckolls, You wrote: " I'll search my ingoing and outgoing
archives to see if
it shows up."
Thank you for your effort to resolve this mystery / aggravation. I had
assumed that it was some failing of my computer arrangement that deprived me
of what information you were trying to convey.
Emacs! usually appeared when you were attempting to place a link to some
information. Here is an example extracted from your July 23, 2009 posting on
transorbs, message # 46078 in the archives:
" Do I correctly deduce from your posting that your
contactor coils are protected by a single transorb?
If so, then it has to be wired as shown in -A- below.
Emacs!
In this configuration, the device HAS to be biased in
the zener conduction mode polarity while coiled power
IS APPLIED."
You can see that there was no way to access the intended information.
Many thanks for your help on this matter.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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Time: 01:09:53 PM PST US
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/27/09
From: "nuckollsr" <bob.nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
Why Bob's posts seem to regularly include the "Emacs!" exclaimation is
a mystery I've long puzzled over.
Beats me. I wasn't even aware of it until it popped up
on the List just now . . . and I see it on the webmail
access to the forums. When I get back to the Gyp Hills,
I'll search my ingoing and outgoing archives to see if
it shows up.
Bob . . .
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I just checked my archives, and the first Emacs showed up in a message
January 2, 2009. Your observation that it is in the place Bob intended
a picture or drawing to show up is accurate. However, the intended
picture was included in my emails as an attachment which shows up at
the bottom of the message. I can also look at the html format of those
messages, and I see a box in the appropriate location with "Emacs!"
inside the box. Looking at the html source, I find this:
If so, then it has to be wired as shown in -A- below.<br><br>
<img src="cid:.0" width=365 height=475 alt="Emacs!"><br><br>
In this configuration, the device HAS to be biased in<br>
Note that the alternate text for the image is "Emacs!", so the problem
is caused by a default setting for alt text for images somewhere in
Bob's email program.
Bob W.
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:13:45 -0400
<bakerocb@cox.net> wrote:
>
> 7/30/2009
>
> Hello Bob Nuckolls, You wrote: " I'll search my ingoing and outgoing
> archives to see if
> it shows up."
>
> Thank you for your effort to resolve this mystery / aggravation. I had
> assumed that it was some failing of my computer arrangement that deprived me
> of what information you were trying to convey.
>
> Emacs! usually appeared when you were attempting to place a link to some
> information. Here is an example extracted from your July 23, 2009 posting on
> transorbs, message # 46078 in the archives:
>
> " Do I correctly deduce from your posting that your
> contactor coils are protected by a single transorb?
> If so, then it has to be wired as shown in -A- below.
>
> Emacs!
>
> In this configuration, the device HAS to be biased in
> the zener conduction mode polarity while coiled power
> IS APPLIED."
>
> You can see that there was no way to access the intended information.
>
> Many thanks for your help on this matter.
>
> 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
> understand knowledge."
>
> ==============================================
>
> Time: 01:09:53 PM PST US
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/27/09
> From: "nuckollsr" <bob.nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
>
>
> Why Bob's posts seem to regularly include the "Emacs!" exclaimation is
> a mystery I've long puzzled over.
>
> Beats me. I wasn't even aware of it until it popped up
> on the List just now . . . and I see it on the webmail
> access to the forums. When I get back to the Gyp Hills,
> I'll search my ingoing and outgoing archives to see if
> it shows up.
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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Bob,
Z-31A is for a Military Style Ground Power Jack. I understand the diode and OVM-14
on the Ground Power Contactor, but is the diode/jumper necessary on the Existing
Battery Contactor?
Also, when do you think you will be filling existing orders for OVM-14s?
John
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Subject: | Re: RE: what is Emacs |
The REAL question is what primer should be used on emacs=3F
Hal
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----- Original Message -----
From=3A Michael Pereira
Date=3A Thursday=2C July 30=2C 2009 4=3A09 am
Subject=3A Re=3A AeroElectric-List=3A RE=3A what is Emacs
To=3A aeroelectric-list=40matronics=2Ecom
=3E --=3E AeroElectric-List message posted by=3A Michael Pereira
=3E
=3E Uggh=2C
=3E
=3E emacs vs vi discussions turn out worse than downwind turn discussion
s=2E
=3E
=3E On Wed=2C Jul 29=2C 2009 at 10=3A31 AM=2C Ralph
=3E Finch wrote=3A
=3E =3E Emacs is a text editor=2E Well=2C that=92s like saying the Airb
us
=3E A380 is an
=3E =3E airplane=2E Anyway it=92s more used in the Linux/Unix world=2C
=3E though versions
=3E =3E exist for windows=2E
=3E =3E
=3E =3E
=3E =3E
=3E =3E Ralph Finch
=3E =3E
=3E =3E Davis CA
=3E =3E
=3E =3E
=3E =3E
=3E =3E From=3A owner-aeroelectric-list-server=40matronics=2Ecom
=3E =3E =5Bmailto=3Aowner-aeroelectric-list-server=40matronics=2Ecom=5D
On
=3E Behalf Of Janet
=3E =3E Amtmann
=3E =3E Sent=3A Wednesday=2C July 29=2C 2009 8=3A57 AM
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=3E =3E Subject=3A AeroElectric-List=3A Re=3A AeroElectric-List Digest=3A
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=3E Msgs - 07/27/09
=3E =3E
=3E =3E
=3E =3E
=3E =3E Can someone enlighten me what the word =22Emacs=22 means=3F
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=3E =3E
=3E =3E J=FCrgen Amtmann
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Subject: | Re: RE: what is Emacs |
You must decide which color ScotchBrite to use first.
Jay
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-----Original Message-----
From: halbenjamin@optonline.net
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 11:00 am
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: what is Emacs
The REAL question is what primer should be used on emacs?
?
Hal
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Subject: | Re: RE: what is Emacs |
On 07/30/2009 12:00 PM, halbenjamin@optonline.net wrote:
> The REAL question is what primer should be used on emacs?
Here is one:
<http://www.csm.uwe.ac.uk/~lrlang/java_html/emacsref.html>
*wink*
-Dj
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Subject: | Re: RE: what is Emacs |
The final paint MUST be color coat, clear coat.
Roger
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To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: what is Emacs
You must decide which color ScotchBrite to use first.
Jay
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-----Original Message-----
From: halbenjamin@optonline.net
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 11:00 am
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: what is Emacs
The REAL question is what primer should be used on emacs?
Hal
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Subject: | Re: RE: what is Emacs |
Enough already! This is getting tiresome. Do Not Archive
Steve Thomas
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On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Roger wrote:
> The final paint MUST be color coat, clear coat.
>
> Roger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jaybannist@cs.com
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: what is Emacs
>
> You must decide which color ScotchBrite to use first.
>
> Jay
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: halbenjamin@optonline.net
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 11:00 am
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: what is Emacs
>
> The REAL question is what primer should be used on emacs?
>
> Hal
>
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Subject: | Re: Z-20: Fuse Links, Master Switch, Alt OV Disc. |
and OVM
Too many questions at once makes it daunting for one guy to tackle
quickly Dan. I'll take a go at the second part of your post. Maybe
someone more familiar with Z-20 will answer the first part. If not, post
the questions again that you still have.
Yes on the crowbar operation. The black box is very quick. But in
addition, the crowbar black box will trip the Circuit breaker to keep
the power off. Resetting the breaker will reset the circuit.
Alternator OV disconnect. With no power to the relay the alternator is
disconnected. Energizing the relay connects the alternator. The NC and
NO terminology has a history in electronics where normal means the
condition when the coil is not energized. No reference to airplane
operation.
Dynamo aka PM alternator. These units generate AC power not DC so they
need the two wires. The regulator also rectifies the AC into DC and then
regulates the DC output voltage.
Capacitor. Yes it will help filter noise. It also may assist the stable
generation of power if the battery fails or is disconnected. In my
machine I do not have the ability to disconnect the PM voltage regulator
from the battery and I do not have a capacitor and it all works just fine.
Ken
> Crowbar OVM
>
> In Z-20, the crowbar OVM is shown sharing terminal 4 of the master
> power switch with the line to the alternator. For me, the crowbar OVM
> is a black box. All I need to understand is what the 'net' function
> of it is. When it senses a voltage above a certain value, does it
> allow a current path to be completed through it to the panel ground?
> If so, then there would be no current going to the alt OV disconnect
> relay, which would then take the alternator offline. Is that how it
> works?
>
> Alternator OV Disconnect Relay
>
> Am I right in assuming that in the normal engine operation with the
> power master switch in the 'up' position, the power is applied
> through the switch to the alternator OV disconnect relay, whose
> magnetic field then pulls down the alt OV switch from the N.C.
> position to the N.O. position? That had me confused at first, cuz I
> figured 'normal' operation is when both the alternator and battery
> are connected. I think I can interpret 'Normally Open, Normally
> Closed' as being the 'unenergized' switch position, right?
>
> Dynamo, aka PM Alternator
>
> Z-20 shows just two wire coming off the alternator. One connects to
> the voltage regulator at terminal 3, the other at terminal 1. There
> is also a tach signal wire spliced into the terminal 1 wire. So both
> of these wires are carrying current generated by the alternator to
> the voltage regulator? If so, why have two leads instead of one, and
> shouldn't there be a ground someplace?
>
> Capacitor
>
> Is the capicitor after the regulator for filtering out noise to the
> radio? I know of someone who wired according to Z-20, but left out
> the capacitor. I'm not sure why.
>
> Cheers, Dan
>
>
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Subject: | Garmin GNS 530 Internal Battery |
It's time to change the internal battery on my GNS 530. Does anyone have
any documentation on...
1. How to find the battery?
2. What is required to remove and replace?
Thanks,
Glenn
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Subject: | Re: Z-20: Fuse Links, Master Switch, Alt OV Disc. and |
OVM
Thanks, Ken :-)
I'll post another topic with the any questions I still have in a few days. Chopping
the topic up into smaller pieces is a good suggestion.
Cheers,
Dan
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Subject: | RE: what is Emacs |
Aw.c'mon Steve, we're due a good donnybrook.
I say forego the Scotchbrite and use gravel, but you gotta lube it with
silicone spray.
Krylon primer makes pretty wrinkles under Imron, but the propwash tends to
take it off.
neal
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The final paint MUST be color coat, clear coat.
Roger
You must decide which color ScotchBrite to use first.
Jay
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The REAL question is what primer should be used on emacs?
Hal
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Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 07/29/09 |
Bob,
The EMacs message began showing up in your responses about 3-4 months ago.
Stan Sutterfield
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Why Bob's posts seem to regularly include the "Emacs!" exclaimation is
a mystery I've long puzzled over.
Beats me. I wasn't even aware of it until it popped up
on the List just now . . . and I see it on the webmail
access to the forums. When I get back to the Gyp Hills,
I'll search my ingoing and outgoing archives to see if
it shows up.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: That magic moment when everything comes together..... |
At 11:02 AM 7/28/2009, you wrote:
>
>- I REALLY couldn't have done it without all of your
> considerable expertise and willingness to help a rookie.
Yeah . . . you would have got there . . . but
perhaps with less confidence in your finished
product. Well done sir. Be sure to let your
friends know what goes on here at the AeroElectric-
List. Helping out EVERYBODY is what we do.
>A short, but very sweet video is here....
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTSv4sqDxdQ
Wayyyy cool!
Send us some more video/pix when they don't get
in the way of business. Fly comfortably.
Bob . . .
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