AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Sun 08/09/09


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 08:33 AM - Re: ANL Current limiters (messydeer)
     2. 01:53 PM - WAY off topic. Was: Check this out (BobsV35B@aol.com)
     3. 03:40 PM - Rotax-B & C over voltage protection (icrashrc)
     4. 07:34 PM - Re: WAY off topic.  (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     5. 07:35 PM - Re: Rotax-B & C over voltage protection (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     6. 08:10 PM - Re: Time for a new PC 680 ? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     7. 09:44 PM - Re: Re: WAY off topic.  (BobsV35B@aol.com)
     8. 10:12 PM - Re: Re: WAY off topic.  (BobsV35B@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:33:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ANL Current limiters
    From: "messydeer" <messydeer@yahoo.com>
    I just did a 'full Acrobat' search using Adobe Acrobat. Open a PDF document with acrobat reader and get there by using the popup menu to the right of the search box, or hit Ctrl+Shift+F. A new window opens and I navigated to have it search my Electrical folder for the word 'anl'. Had to start over after it came up with 'cleANLiness' a bunch of times. So I checked the 'whole word' option. I came up with four hits for ANL in rev. 11, all in the Note 10 of the Z section and associated schematic. There were a half dozen articles that showed up as well. I'd downloaded them from Aeroelectric.com site. On Bob's main page, there is a Google search box right above the yellow 'what's new'. I typed in ANL there and came up with 4 pages of hits. Cheers, Dan PS: I got my barely used Jabiru from Ion Aircraft in St. Paul in May! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256779#256779


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    Time: 01:53:53 PM PST US
    From: BobsV35B@aol.com
    Subject: WAY off topic. Was: Check this out
    Good Afternoon 'Lectric Bob, Way off topic, but I was wondering what your address is in Medicine Lodge? Just wanted to check it out on Google Earth. Nothing but idle curiosity! Happy Skies, Old Bob Do Not Archive In a message dated 8/7/2009 2:12:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com writes: --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> At 11:45 AM 8/7/2009, you wrote: <terry@tcwatson.com> > >My suggestion about a very large contributing factor to this problem is that >so few of us are raised on a farm or ranch anymore. Any farm kid learns that >if something needs doing, you need to be able to do it; when something >breaks, you need to be able to fix it. You are quite correct sir. I've lived both sides of that coin. My grandfather came to Wichita from Arkansas as a nurseryman but skilled in building every resource needed to support that trade. By the time he was 40 he had built, operated and sold a nursery, started a contracting services activity. Traded land in Wichita for farm land in Medicine Lodge and added farming to his constellation of endeavors. This is one reason I'm moving back to M.L. and hoping to take all my kids and grandchildren with me. We have great- grandpa's and grandpa's legacies along with a home that will house woodworking, hvac, locksmithing, electronics, catering, tree trimming and publishing services managed by two professional teachers and four professional craftsmen. It's my new career goal to die stone broke with my family living in paid-for houses and radiating a culture of "how can we help you today?" mentality. >Maybe it's just teaching kids the >joy of working with their head AND their hands at the same time, or the >satisfaction of playing with or living in or riding in or flying in >something they built with their own hands. Yup, that's what launched my father's lifestyle and ultimately my own . . . http://aeroelectric.com/articles/In_Memory_of_Robert_L_Nuckolls_Jr.pdf Unfortunately, difficult to achieve in an Wii, Ipod, let's-get-eternally high/excited/pleasured-culture. I'm seeing only vestiges of that in M.L. so far. Perhaps we can help plant the seeds of a few old but well proven recipes for success there. I'll be seeking out other real teachers first. Bob . . .


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    Time: 03:40:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Rotax-B & C over voltage protection
    From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
    Im building a Rotax 912uls powered Kolb. The used engine I purchased has the stock Rotax charging system as well as a B & C SD-20/ LR3C backup system. I would like to insure I have proper over voltage protection on both systems. I see the LR3C claims to have over voltage crowbar protection but I see no listing of what voltage it considers too high. Anyone know where to find that info? Also, as I understand it there is no form of over voltage protection on the Rotax system. I assume this is where Bobs OVM-14 comes in and Ill be happy to add one. What voltage does the OVM-14 consider too high? Thanks, Scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256832#256832


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    Time: 07:34:19 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: re: WAY off topic.
    At 03:49 PM 8/9/2009, you wrote: >Good Afternoon 'Lectric Bob, > >Way off topic, but I was wondering what your address is in Medicine >Lodge? Just wanted to check it out on Google Earth. Nothing but idle curiosity! > >Happy Skies, > >Old Bob 209 Curry Lane http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Misc/209_Curry_Lane.jpg Took this picture about 30 years ago from a Sundowner. We've got fewer trees now but the ones we have are much larger. Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------


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    Time: 07:35:45 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax-B & C over voltage protection
    At 05:38 PM 8/9/2009, you wrote: > >Im building a Rotax 912uls powered Kolb. The >used engine I purchased has the stock Rotax >charging system as well as a B & C SD-20/ LR3C >backup system. I would like to insure I have >proper over voltage protection on both systems. >I see the LR3C claims to have over voltage >crowbar protection but I see no listing of >what voltage it considers too high. Anyone know >where to find that info? Also, as I understand >it there is no form of over voltage protection >on the Rotax system. I assume this is where >Bobs OVM-14 comes in and Ill be happy to >add one. What voltage does the OVM-14 consider too high? Thanks, Industry "rule of thumb" for OV protection in 14v systems is 16.2 to 16.5 volts. This is the voltage setpoint I designed into all of B&C's ov protection systems whether built in or external. It's also the trip voltage setpoint range for our OV protection products. Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------


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    Time: 08:10:48 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Time for a new PC 680 ?
    At 12:11 PM 8/4/2009, you wrote: ><MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> > >Here's a link with several embedded links on subject >http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Batteries/Multiple_Battery_Myths_A.pdf >here's the chart: >http://tinyurl.com/553kmu Just finished unloading the car after returning from our trip to Colorado Springs. Look back over the past posts . . . Understand that few alternative chargers will produce recharge curves identical to that cited above. They've got a few things in common. Relatively constant charge to a top-off level on the order of 14.5 to 15.0 volts. Sustained operation at the top-off level until recharge current drops below some arbitrary but low level on the order of 100 mA . . . or perhaps simply based on time like 2 hrs in top-off mode. It's not critical. After that, output voltage goes down to some value just above 13.0 volts indefinitely. The Shumacher 1562 series devices have been tested and found to be an exemplary value from Walmart at about $20. A number of devices from Harbor Freight have been looked and some were found inadequate to the protocols cited above. The Battery Tender/Battery Minder products are also good. But there are dozens of others and I've not tested but a very few. Make it easy on yourself Go get the Schumacher device (or any Schumacher smart product) from Walmart. Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) ---------------------------------------


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    Time: 09:44:05 PM PST US
    From: BobsV35B@aol.com
    Subject: Re: re: WAY off topic.
    Good Evening Bob, Thanks much! Looks like a great location but it appears that the local airport is a bit under utilized. Happy Skies, Old Bob In a message dated 8/9/2009 9:36:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com writes: 209 Curry Lane


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    Time: 10:12:58 PM PST US
    From: BobsV35B@aol.com
    Subject: Re: re: WAY off topic.
    Good Evening Once again Bob, As near as I can tell the photo you provided is from the east looking west and you were paralleling North Cedar Street. Your property appears to be between Rosarian Avenue and Curry Lane with North Cedar Street on the west and Good? Street on the East. What happened to all of the industrial buildings to the east? Happy Skies, Old Bob Do Not Archive. In a message dated 8/9/2009 9:36:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com writes: At 03:49 PM 8/9/2009, you wrote: Good Afternoon 'Lectric Bob, Way off topic, but I was wondering what your address is in Medicine Lodge? Just wanted to check it out on Google Earth. Nothing but idle curiosity! Happy Skies, Old Bob 209 Curry Lane _http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Misc/209_Curry_Lane.jpg _ (http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Misc/209_Curry_Lane.jpg) Took this picture about 30 years ago from a Sundowner. We've got fewer trees now but the ones we have are much larger. Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) --------------------------------------- (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution)




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