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1. 02:45 AM - Re: Inspection camera (Thruster87)
2. 05:40 AM - Re: Inspection camera (Harley)
3. 07:04 AM - inspection camera (bob noffs)
4. 11:51 AM - Re: Basic Electrical Architecture for review... (user9253)
5. 12:11 PM - Re: Visio? (Peter Pengilly)
6. 12:32 PM - Re: Mason City, Iowa Aero-Electric seminar (PatrickW)
7. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: Mason City, Iowa Aero-Electric seminar (Kesley Electric)
8. 01:07 PM - Re: Visio? (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
9. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: "Spiked" Radio (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 10:48 PM - Odyssey PC310 battery pairings (mjhamm01)
11. 11:01 PM - Official AeroElectric-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
12. 11:15 PM - Official AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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Subject: | Re: Inspection camera |
Allen Fulmer wrote:
> And with the HF model you can focus inside the cylinder okay with a 4" or so
> minimum focus distance?
>
> Can you look back at the valves?
>
> And what does it look like the wireless range might be?
>
> I think someone said it came with a cable to allow you to record the video
> on the computer. Have you tried this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Allen Fulmer
> RV7 wiring
> What is the actual Diameter of the camera.Can't seem to find this dimension anywhere
on HF site or product info pdf.Will it fit in the 10mm spark plug hole
like the Jabiru 3300 Cheers
> --
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Subject: | Re: Inspection camera |
I'd like to add something to David's replies...
The camera head as supplied is too big to fit into the spark plug
hole...but just a touch too big. I didn't think of inserting the mirror
into the spark plug hole with the camera still outside...a possibility.
I just checked the mirror size, and it is only a very little bit smaller
than the camera...not sure that it would fit either.
The smaller, 9mm camera mentioned from another supplier may work, IF you
want to spend the extra $100 AND IF it works with the HF
camera...haven't heard from anyone on that yet, and haven't needed to
try it myself.
As far as the wireless range, the first day I had the HF camera (read
that while the batteries were still fresh <G>), I detached the display
from the camera head, connected the supplied video cable into my
computer's converter's analog video input plug, and started recording
the image using the Pinnacle Video capture program that came with the
video/digital converter.
I then walked the camera through the house, and outside to try to
determine the range. The computer is located in the west end bedroom
(now a "computer" room <G>) of my house, and I was able to go into the
middle of the garage attached to the east end of my house (~40 feet
away..through two rooms and down a 20 foot hall) before I lost the
signal, and outside about halfway down the front yard (also about 40
feet).
Just tried it again...same original batteries that I first installed in
it. Interesting results. I put the camera on my desk here in the
computer room and turned it on, then walked the display away until I
lost the signal.
The camera remained inside, here on my desk. I got as far as the garage
door (about 35 feet away) inside the house...but when I took it outside,
I was able to go across the street into the neighbor's yard before the
display shut down (it goes black when it can't receive a signal)...about
90 feet...with the camera inside my house! I did have to rotate to get
the best signal, a bit like locating a cell phone signal, but the image
was still very readable when I locked it in while in Tom's front
yard...and it's a dreary rainy day here.
Except for the handle color, the hard case and a couple of the
accessories, this unit is identical to the HF one: www.nteinc.com/wic
There is a video describing it (actually, a narrated slide show).
Looks to me like a lot of companies are seeing the advantage of this
camera and putting their own brand on it. If you google "wireless
inspection camera" you'll get dozens of different brand labels on the
same unit. But so far, from my search, HF is the lowest
cost...especially when it's on sale for $99 (it may be on sale at the
store as it was here, even though it didn't show a sale online).
And, I, for one, am pleased with it.
Harley
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David M wrote:
>
> THeoretically you could look at the valves with the mirror but I
> haven't done that.
> As to range, I've had it contact stuff and it was almost in focus.
> Range for the wireless part is a few feet inside the house if there's
> a wall between you and maybe 25 or 30 feet outside. So range varies.
> It does have a video out port so getting it into a computer is a snap.
>
> David M.
>
>
> Allen Fulmer wrote:
>> <afulmer@charter.net>
>>
>> And with the HF model you can focus inside the cylinder okay with a
>> 4" or so
>> minimum focus distance?
>>
>> Can you look back at the valves?
>>
>> And what does it look like the wireless range might be?
>>
>> I think someone said it came with a cable to allow you to record the
>> video
>> on the computer. Have you tried this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Allen Fulmer
>> RV7 wiring
>>
>>
>> One of my best uses is looking inside the cylinders, via the spark
>> plug openings.
>>
>> David M.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Subject: | inspection camera |
harley,
thanks for the info on your camera, bob noffs
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Subject: | Re: Basic Electrical Architecture for review... |
Steve,
Yes, the 20 amp fuse should be replaced. A 22awg fuselink will work.
Since your plane does not have a starter, you could use a relay instead of a contactor, perhaps one like this: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=255-1830-ND
A relay weighs less and will not use as much power.
You could buy two relays, one to replace the battery contactor and one to remotely
control power to the essential bus, thus having the ability to isolate all
electrical power on the engine side of the firewall.
Depending on how your main power bus is constructed, you might be able to cut it
in half and then connect the two halves with a diode, thus making an essential
bus. It would be relatively easy to add a switch and wire to complete the
essential bus circuit.
Dual alternators are not necessary for a VFR plane unless the engine is electrically
dependent and you fly long distances over hostile terrain.
Putting a diode between the load side of the battery contactor and main power
bus along with a circuit breaker from the battery to the bus defeats the purpose
of having a contactor, which is the ability to shut off electrical power at
the battery without bringing a large always-hot wire into the cockpit.
Yes, the ANL fuse protects the battery and wire against alternator short circuits.
Joe
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Bill,
To make Visio drawings viewable by everyone save them as .jpg files (Save
as, and then scroll nearly to the bottom of the menu).
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Mauledriver Watson
Sent: 30 September 2009 13:55
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Visio?
<MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
I'm using that product too and like it a lot. A belated Thanks Vern!
If anyone installs it and wants a sample, I'd be glad to share my
schematics. (but you have to have the SCH tool installed to view it)
Bill
Vern Little wrote:
> <rv-9a-online@telus.net>
>
> Hi Tim.
> Go here: www.vx-aviation.com and follow the link near the top of the
> page for the free schematic software, library and design example from
> my RV-9A. Doesn't have everything but it's very easy to create symbols
> on the fly.
>
> Thanks,
> Vern Little
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Tim Andres" <tim2542@sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:37 PM
> To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Visio?
>
>> <tim2542@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone tried using Visio to draw their schematic? It looks like
>> it will
>> work but I'm not finding much in the way of automotive symbols i.e.
>> solenoids relays etc.
>> Can anyone recommend a free or cheap program for this?
>> Thanks, Tim Andres
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Mason City, Iowa Aero-Electric seminar |
Is this still on...?
Just wanted to make sure before I make travel/hotel plans.
Thanks,
Patrick
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XL/650/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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Subject: | Re: Mason City, Iowa Aero-Electric seminar |
Hi Patrick,
I spoke with Bob Nuckolls this morning. Unfortunately, there were not
enough people registered to meet the minimum. Bob will be e-mailing those
who registered with the announcement sometime today.
I'm really disappointed that the response was not enough to meet the minimum
class size, as I was really looking forward to the class and the interaction
with other builders.
No reschedule date has been set at this time.
Regards,
Tom Barter
kesleyelectric@iowatelecom.net
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PatrickW
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Mason City, Iowa Aero-Electric seminar
Is this still on...?
Just wanted to make sure before I make travel/hotel plans.
Thanks,
Patrick
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XL/650/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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06:34:00
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Some confusion here perhaps. I'm not using Visio - rather I'm using the
ExpressSCH product that Vern has linked to at his site. It does have a
bitmap export function which I just tried and attached the results.
Looks like that works ok.
I've never used Visio. I tried just using Powerpoint which I'm
proficient in but didn't care for the results. I tried Turbocad but
found it to be overkill.
ExpressSCH is one half of a package that appears to support circuit
board design and prototyping. I found it simple to use. Part of it's
attraction is that it 'knows' it is an electrical diagram so the overall
design is consistent with the task at hand.
Bill "on the final lap of an RV10 panel" Watson
do not archive
Peter Pengilly wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> To make Visio drawings viewable by everyone save them as .jpg files (Save
> as, and then scroll nearly to the bottom of the menu).
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Mauledriver Watson
> Sent: 30 September 2009 13:55
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Visio?
>
> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
>
> I'm using that product too and like it a lot. A belated Thanks Vern!
>
> If anyone installs it and wants a sample, I'd be glad to share my
> schematics. (but you have to have the SCH tool installed to view it)
>
> Bill
>
> Vern Little wrote:
>
>> <rv-9a-online@telus.net>
>>
>> Hi Tim.
>> Go here: www.vx-aviation.com and follow the link near the top of the
>> page for the free schematic software, library and design example from
>> my RV-9A. Doesn't have everything but it's very easy to create symbols
>> on the fly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vern Little
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Tim Andres" <tim2542@sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:37 PM
>> To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Visio?
>>
>>
>>> <tim2542@sbcglobal.net>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried using Visio to draw their schematic? It looks like
>>> it will
>>> work but I'm not finding much in the way of automotive symbols i.e.
>>> solenoids relays etc.
>>> Can anyone recommend a free or cheap program for this?
>>> Thanks, Tim Andres
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: "Spiked" Radio |
At 12:16 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote:
>
>Frank,
> You don't specify the type of aircraft and radio which can
> make a big difference. If the guy is considering adding a fuse then
> that suggests to me its a homebuilt aircraft, raising the question
> of just how much care has been taken to configure everything to
> best practice for the mission desired.
><snip>
>
>Not sure if that gives any insight into whats happened if it was my
>plane I'd be retaining the CBs not adding fuses - the fact you can
>attempt to replace them inflight is a danger in itself.
Good answer sir. Couldn't have said it
better myself . . .
Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
( )
( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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Subject: | Odyssey PC310 battery pairings |
I am planning to use a small PC310 as a primary battery in a system
designed for 1 battery in a VFR only Rotax powered aircraft. Is it possible to
parallel a larger PC680 for occasions when I would want to extend my
reserve capacity time? Or should I plan to only use a second PC310
for such an application?
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Subject: | Official AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
AeroElectric-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/AeroElectric-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the AeroElectric-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the AeroElectric-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
AeroElectric-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the AeroElectric-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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