---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/20/09: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:15 AM - Re: 2-10 swtich spacing (Richard Reynolds) 2. 04:37 AM - Re: RST-523 Marker Beacon Receiver Kit (Angier M.Ames) 3. 06:36 AM - Re: King KMD150 battery (zwakie) 4. 06:53 AM - Re: 2-10 swtich spacing (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 5. 07:17 AM - Two Generals - 64 years later (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 6. 07:23 AM - Re: 2-10 swtich spacing (Ernest Christley) 7. 12:30 PM - Re: 2-10 swtich spacing () 8. 02:37 PM - Re: 2-10 switch spacing (jerb) 9. 10:38 PM - Re: FLIR EVS (was XeVision HIDs) (Michael Pereira) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:49 AM PST US From: Richard Reynolds Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 2-10 swtich spacing 1 inch to provide finger and wiring space. Richard Reynolds Norfolk VA RV-6A - N841RV On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:58 PM, rvg8tor wrote: > > > > I asked this of B&C who sells the switches but they directed me to > ask Bob Nuckolls on this forum so I am putting it out for anyone > with the information. I am not sure why B&C would not know > technical information for items they sell! > > I had drilled holes 3/4" on center for my switches. The bigger 2-10 > switches fit, but with very little room between them. > > Is there a minimum space between switches required? > > Thanks for the help. > > -------- > Mike "Nemo" Elliott > RV-8A QB (Fuselage) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268599#268599 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:02 AM PST US From: "Angier M.Ames" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: RST-523 Marker Beacon Receiver Kit If anyone in the group has recently constructed this receiver, I've got a few questions. Please contact me off list. Thanks, Angier Ames N4ZQ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:12 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: King KMD150 battery From: "zwakie" Ben, If the KMD150 is similar to the SkyMap IIIC this is a very simple thing to do. (for those intereseted, I have attached the instructions for the SM IIIC) Even for non-techies (like myself) it won't take much more than 20 minutes. Marcel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268670#268670 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/skyforce_battery_change_1_225.pdf ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:36 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 2-10 swtich spacing At 09:32 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote: > > >In Bob Nukolls original Aeroelectic drawings I am sure he showed 0.8 >inch spacing, but in his newer version he has 0.9 inch spacing. I >believe you will have to wait for an answer from the man himself. >His experience is vast, while most of us have little to none. What ever will fit for you. There are no "standard practices" driven by switch size. There are human factors issues that usually speak to manipulation by the fingers without operating more than one switch . . . and the size of placard lettering. I don't think we ever used smaller than 1/8" high, Futura bold style lettering. We did a little study here on the list where someone was contemplating all miniature switches to "save panel space". As it turned out the human factors issues drove limitation that saved only about 5-10% of total panel area for having "gone miniature". Going any tighter only made the switches problematic to operate and/or the placard lettering too small. I'm in Wichita this week and away from my Medicine Lodge data base (maybe I need to try that GoToMyPC service). But I think the drawings I've published for exemplar panel layouts with full sized switches used 0.8" spacing. There's a fabrication tool that you might consider for helping you lay out the holes. Somewhere in my tools I have a piece of steel bar about .1" thick, 1" wide and 5" long with a two rows of #30 holes. One row is for the switch bushing centers, the second row is for the anti-rotation tabs. The drill fixture has 5 sets of holes. You can drill your first hole in the panel and then Cleco the fixture to the panel such that the hole at the other end lines up on the bushings centerline. Then drill the 5th switch hole. Install another Cleco and drill the remaining 8 pilot holes. Then use Clecos to move the fixture two holes at a time along the remainder of the row of switches. I had the drill fixture made on a vertical mill with a digital readout. It offers a way to produce very accurately spaced hole patterns of any length. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:22 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Two Generals - 64 years later No comments needed. I think this tableau speaks well for itself . . . See: http://www.aeroelectric.com/temp/Two_Generals.pdf Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( . . . a long habit of not thinking ) ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial ) ( appearance of being right . . . ) ( ) ( -Thomas Paine 1776- ) --------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:01 AM PST US From: Ernest Christley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 2-10 swtich spacing Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > I'm in Wichita this week and away from my Medicine > Lodge data base (maybe I need to try that GoToMyPC > service). Try this first. It is actually much easier than it first appears. http://www.nomachine.com/products.php ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:30:35 PM PST US Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: 2-10 swtich spacing From: Really, Ok, if I sit in your plane and it's .75 I'm going to tell bob J From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:12 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 2-10 swtich spacing 1 inch to provide finger and wiring space. Richard Reynolds Norfolk VA RV-6A - N841RV On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:58 PM, rvg8tor wrote: I asked this of B&C who sells the switches but they directed me to ask Bob Nuckolls on this forum so I am putting it out for anyone with the information. I am not sure why B&C would not know technical information for items they sell! I had drilled holes 3/4" on center for my switches. The bigger 2-10 switches fit, but with very little room between them. Is there a minimum space between switches required? Thanks for the help. -------- Mike "Nemo" Elliott RV-8A QB (Fuselage) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268599#268599 - The --> &n======================== ======================= ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:33 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 2-10 switch spacing Yes, room for the replacement switch when the original fails and are no longer available. It's happened before it will happen again. If the wire crimp(s) can be mounted on the terminals and not touch by some reasonable clearance, I would think that would be acceptable - only exception might be switch controlling very high current loads which may warm up some. jerb At 01:58 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote: > >I asked this of B&C who sells the switches but they directed me to >ask Bob Nuckolls on this forum so I am putting it out for anyone >with the information. I am not sure why B&C would not know >technical information for items they sell! > >I had drilled holes 3/4" on center for my switches. The bigger 2-10 >switches fit, but with very little room between them. > >Is there a minimum space between switches required? > >Thanks for the help. > >-------- >Mike "Nemo" Elliott >RV-8A QB (Fuselage) > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268599#268599 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: FLIR EVS (was XeVision HIDs) From: Michael Pereira Hmm.. Maybe true, but the flir won't help other people see you at all. c'ya, Michael On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:40 AM, wrote: > Last quote I had for X model was about $3500 from flir.com. Sure, thats a > lot of HIDs but youll never see as well with any of them. If youre going > to spend for LoPresti stuff, it wont be long before hes sitting on Palm > Beach with your $3500. Ask for the additional information and they will > send you prices etc. > > > Enjoy > > > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos > Trigo > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:53 AM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: FLIR EVS (was XeVision HIDs) > > > Glenn > > > Which is the price of this critter? > > And where to buy it? > > > Carlos > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of longg@pjm.com > >> Sent: sexta-feira, 16 de Outubro de 2009 15:47 > >> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: XeVision HIDs > >> > > >> > >> Forget about all this wattage stuff, I'm going straight to FLIR. There is >> a lower cost > >> Exp solution available now. As technology improves and the price comes >> down, we > >> become more stealth. > >> > >> http://www.flir.com/cvs/americas/en/aviation/products/evsx/ > >> > >> Actually my best night landings are usually with the landing light off so >> as not to > >> distort ground effect. > >> > >> Glenn > >> > >> Do Not Archive > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.