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1. 03:59 AM - Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires (glen matejcek)
2. 07:16 AM - Re: Re: Garmin GNS 530 Internal Battery ()
3. 08:55 AM - Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires (Ron Quillin)
4. 10:47 AM - Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires (Eric M. Jones)
5. 03:15 PM - Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires ()
6. 03:54 PM - Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires (James Robinson)
7. 04:01 PM - Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires (Ron Quillin)
8. 05:16 PM - Re: EFIS Article (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
9. 08:22 PM - Re: EFIS Articles (Mis quoted Link) (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
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Subject: | Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires |
I would add to Charlie's experience that when I went through this process,
the guy in my local welding shop said he'd do my crimps for $10, or he'd
sell me a crimping die for the same price. It's a self gauging device you
can put on a bench or set on the floor and whack a couple times with a good
sized hammer. (Actually, you can gauge the crimps by ear as well or better
than by sight). Natch, I bought the die and have made a dozen crimps with
it and loaned it out to a couple of my cohorts as well. It's definitely
one of the more cost effective tool investments I've ever made.
A couple thoughts on technique: When set properly, the crimp is gas tight.
Needless to say, the individual strands of wire can't slide over each other
and you might as well have a solid copper bar in the crimp zone. This
makes the cable significantly less flexible adjacent to the crimp,
transitioning back to quite flexible a couple inches out from the terminal
barrel. If you need to make any sharp bends near the end of the installed
cable, it would be beneficial to have another set of hands to pre-bend the
cable as the crimp is being made.
The other thing is that since welding cable is not tinned like the Tefzel
is, after making the crimp I tinned the cut end of the cable for corrosion
proofing. Of course, I put heat shrink on the cable-barrel juncture as
well.
FYI, YMMV, etc, etc...
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: wire size
>
>
> If you walk into your local welding supply shop & tell 'em you need x
> feet of #6 and y crimp-on lugs for the wire with z stud size, then ask
> if they know anyone who might rent you a crimper, odds are good that
> someone at the counter will go get a crimper out of stock & do it for
> you on the spot.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> James Robinson wrote:
> > Hi Bob
> > Your solution is OK and doable. I just worry about the weight of the
> > wire on the copper tie strip on the breakers. I could figure a
> > support for the much more flexible wire.
> > I am running a pad mount 20 amp and a belt driven 40 amp alternators.
> > Can you make up the wires with ends if I provide the length and
> > connector sizes?
> > Jim
> > James Robinson
> > Glasair lll N79R
> > Spanish Fork UT U77
> >
> >
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Subject: | Re: Garmin GNS 530 Internal Battery |
No, I just dove in and replaced the battery. If you are well organized
when you disassemble thing, you'll have not trouble. I've got a few
pictures on my website and I can send you a few more on request. It
appears intimidating at first, but in reality many of the boards used
are rather old school, using typical connectors and screws to fasten
them. If the 530 were re-designed with new technology, it would weigh
half as much, have better resolution and fewer contraptions inside. I'm
guessing with all the new products coming out from Garmin, the 430 and
530 will eventually fall unsupported. For now , they are a great unit.
Once you get down to the battery you have a choice. You can trim the
tabs and buy a tab type battery or break looks the tabs from the battery
and re-solder a new battery in its place. The batteries are easily
sourced and cost < $10.
I think Garmin charges $800.00 to replace a $10.00 battery, so you have
a choice.
Glenn
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
joburke
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Garmin GNS 530 Internal Battery
Did you ever find a source for this information? I'm looking for the
same thing.
Thanks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271555#271555
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Subject: | Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires |
At 03:56 11/9/2009, you wrote:
>I would add to Charlie's experience that when I went through this process,
>the guy in my local welding shop said he'd do my crimps for $10, or he'd
>sell me a crimping die for the same price. It's a self gauging device you
>can put on a bench or set on the floor and whack a couple times with a good
>sized hammer. (Actually, you can gauge the crimps by ear as well or better
>than by sight). Natch, I bought the die and have made a dozen crimps with
>it and loaned it out to a couple of my cohorts as well. It's definitely
>one of the more cost effective tool investments I've ever made.
>
><snip>
>
>FYI, YMMV, etc, etc...
>
>glen matejcek
>aerobubba@earthlink.net
Not as inexpensive as the $10 pound-on-it crimper, but...
These occasionally go on sale at HF for under $50, and with a 20% off
coupon on top of that, for <$40 a very nice tool that crimps from
AWG-12 to 00 cables.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66150
Emacs!
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Subject: | Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires |
If you go to Ebay and enter "hammer crimper" there are a bunch of them for little
money. I have a hammer crimper and it works like a charm.
--------
Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones@charter.net
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271948#271948
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Subject: | Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires |
I have one of these. It works great for crimping some large wire gauges
- 8 tons of force, hex crimp, etc. However, the dies that are supplied
with it are completely marked incorrectly - at least for the type of
terminals we typically use in aviation. The range is on the small size
in reality and most of the dies are not usable.
It will, however, crimp standard #4, #6 and #8AWG wire terminals using
the dies marked "00" (biggest), "0", and "2" respectfully. It might do
#10, but I didn't have any around to try.
So, it's cheap..and it works...just don't expect a correct die set.
James Redmon
Berkut #013/Race 13
www.berkut13.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Quillin
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Was wire size, now crimping heavy
wires
Not as inexpensive as the $10 pound-on-it crimper, but...
These occasionally go on sale at HF for under $50, and with a 20% off
coupon on top of that, for <$40 a very nice tool that crimps from AWG-12
to 00 cables.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66150
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Subject: | Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires |
Thanks everyone for the great response!!!
James Robinson
Glasair lll N79R
Spanish Fork UT U77
________________________________
From: "berkut13@berkut13.com" <berkut13@berkut13.com>
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:09:25 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires
I have one of these. It works great for
crimping some large wire gauges - 8 tons of force, hex crimp, etc.
However, the dies that are supplied with it are completely marked incorrectly -
at least for the type of terminals we typically use in aviation. The range
is on the small size in reality and most of the dies are not
usable.
It will, however, crimp standard #4, #6 and #8AWG
wire terminals using the dies marked "00" (biggest), "0", and "2"
respectfully. It might do #10, but I didn't have any around to
try.
So, it's cheap..and it works...just don't expect
a correct die set.
James Redmon
Berkut #013/Race 13
www.berkut13.com
----- Original Message -----
>From: Ron Quillin
>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:38
> AM
>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Was wire
> size, now crimping heavy wires
>
>Not as inexpensive as the $10 pound-on-it crimper,
> but...
>These occasionally go on sale at HF for under $50, and with a 20%
> off coupon on top of that, for <$40 a very nice tool that crimps from
> AWG-12 to 00 cables.
>
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66150
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Was wire size, now crimping heavy wires |
At 15:09 11/9/2009, you wrote:
>The range is on the small size in reality and most of the dies are not usable.
>
>So, it's cheap..and it works...just don't expect a correct die set.
And here I just thought they were marked in metric units <grin>
A bit of labor with a die grinder does wonders.
I don't recall exactly where I got dimensions from, perhaps AMP, but
they can be made to work quite well.
Ron Q.
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Subject: | Re: EFIS Article |
At 10:48 AM 11/9/2009, you wrote:
>Hello Bob,
>
>Sometime ago there was a conversation on the
>AeroElectric List about how to choose an EFIS
>for an experimental airplane, and talked about
>the kind of questions that might be appropriate
>to ask a supplier. I think I sent you a very
>early copy of an article I was writing. In the
>end it ended up as three articles which have now
>been published in the UK. The first described
>what an EFIS is and what makes a good one. The
>second looked at the responses from five EFIS
>makers (and included Blue Mountain who it seems
>is no longer in business). The third looked at
>some of the operation factors to be considered
>when flying behind a glass screen.
>
>I have uploaded the articles as PDFs ' see the
>bottom 3 links on this page
><http://www.glosterairparts.co.uk/building.htm>http://www.glosterairparts.c
o.uk/building.htm.
>
>They are available as Word files if required. I
>would be interested in your comments and perhaps
>the best way to roll them out to the Aeroelectric community.
>
>Best Regards, Peter Pengilly
Peter, I've read through your offerings an to the techno-wiennie
with some flying experience . . . they read well and logically.
I've posted them at:
http://aeroelectric.com/articles.html#Instrumentation
I'll invite our brothers here stateside to look them over
and craft any assessment they might like to offer. I'd be
pleased to add these articles to the too small number of
guest authors on the AeroElectric.com website.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: EFIS Articles (Mis quoted Link) |
Peter, I've read through your offerings and to the techno-wiennie
with some flying experience . . . they read well and logically.
I've posted them at (CORRECTED LINK) . . .
http://aeroelectric.com/articles.html#EFIS_Systems
I'll invite our brothers here stateside to look them over
and craft any assessment they might like to offer. I'd be
pleased to add these articles to the too small number of
guest authors on the AeroElectric.com website.
Bob . . .
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