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Sun 11/22/09


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     0. 12:08 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: Dan's Switches (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 09:52 AM - Side Tone (F. Tim Yoder)
     3. 09:54 AM - Choices, choices . . . (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 03:37 PM - Re: Choices, choices . . . (Bill Boyd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:08:04 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
    in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 08:27:19 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Dan's Switches
    At 03:41 PM 11/21/2009, you wrote: ><jmtipton@btopenworld.com> > >Hi Guys > >What's the chosen method of shrinking, 'heat-shrink' ? Heat . . . Seriously, it depends on your situation. I've had $150 heat guns than put concentrated heat into tiny spaces. They're quite useful when working inside some piece of electronics. 95% of the time, a $15 heat gun from Harbor Freight does the job. ANY heatgun can supply MORE heat than you need. Get used to the specific combination of shrink, situation and tools before you dive into finished work. Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( It's MATRONICS FUND RAISER MONTH! ) ( Do your part to keep this marvelous ) ( tool sharp and available to all our ) ( brothers in the OBAM aviation ) ( community. ) ---------------------------------------


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    Time: 09:52:53 AM PST US
    From: "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
    Subject: Side Tone
    While flying yesterday, I noticed I lost side tone when transmitting on my Bendix King 97A. I bought it new in 1990, I believe, and have had little trouble with it. Any suggestions on what to fix, who can fix, worth fixing??? Thanks, Tim


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    Time: 09:54:06 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Choices, choices . . .
    -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "user9253" <fran5sew(at)banyanol.com> Quote: Dan, I do have one suggestion about the regulator_fastons_118.jpg. Unless it will be necessary to periodically disconnect the cable going to the regulator, you could eliminate that plastic connector and the fastons. One of the regulator wires could go directly to the relay. The other wires could be butt spliced like this: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/PM_Solder_Sleeve/PM_Solder_Sleeve. Not a bad idea. Given that the rectifier/regulator assembly comes with a connector for which you have no mate, it's a good thing to minimize the number of connections and/or work-arounds. The idea of making semi-permanent splices in wires in TC aircraft by soldering would get the designer a boat-load of tomatoes and cabbages from all quarters. Of course, the "prudent system integrator" of a Jabiru rectifier- regulator would go get a mating connector or special order regulators fitted with a connector of choice. Shucks, we could turn a $25 part into a $250 part in a heart-beat. But this is YOUR airplane where design goals no doubt include lowest practical cost of ownership . . . which also carries the option of doing a "little extra work" at such time the regulator needs replacing. My grab-it-and-run toolbox left over from Hawker-Beechcraft days includes a gas-powered soldering iron that not only lets me get a solder joint made up before the next guy can get his choice of tools from the crib . . . but it will shrink tubing too. It's process sensitive. You need to learn how to do some things that probably scares the TC production line worker. For low parts count, high joint integrity and personally acceptable cost of ownership, the lowly soldering iron offers a unique potential recipe for success. I was unpacking stuff in my collection of antique electronics last week. I've had it in storage for about 15 years. At the bottom of one box was a billy-club sized soldering iron that was forwarded to me by my sisters when they were helping Aunt Dorothy and Uncle Bill move into the nursing home 20 years ago. It was the first plug-in-the-wall soldering iron I ever had access to. Uncle bill showed me how it worked when I was 9 years old. A couple months later, my own first iron was a plumber's copper that had to be heated up on the stove. I still marvel at the idea that my folks didn't bat an eye when I plunked that beast down on the kitchen stove and came back a few minutes later to retrieve it. I'd run to my workbench in the utility room and solder up a joint or two. How many families would have the vision and patience to offer their children those kinds of opportunities today? When my grandson comes to visit for a few weeks next summer I think we'll plug the billy-club in. He's already put his hands on my Metcal hi-performance solder station. We'll dig out about a half dozen more soldering tools I have laying around. We'll splice some wires, build some boxes from copper clad and maybe solder some pipes too. That ancient technology is still pretty neat stuff . . . Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( It's MATRONICS FUND RAISER MONTH! ) ( Do your part to keep this marvelous ) ( tool sharp and available to all our ) ( brothers in the OBAM aviation ) ( community. ) ---------------------------------------


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    Time: 03:37:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Choices, choices . . .
    From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
    Bob, I can tell you love being a grand-dad as much as I will - when the little critter gets to be more than his present 3 months old. Can't wait to melt some solder with him, and give him his first plane ride! Bill Boyd RV-6A On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "user9253" <fran5sew(at)banyanol.com> > Quote: > > > Dan, > > I do have one suggestion about the regulator_fastons_118.jpg. Unless it > will be > > necessary to periodically disconnect the cable going to the regulator, you > could > eliminate that plastic connector and the fastons. One of the regulator > wires > could go directly to the relay. The other wires could be butt spliced like > this: > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/PM_Solder_Sleeve/PM_Solder_Sleeve. > > > Not a bad idea. Given that the rectifier/regulator assembly comes > with a connector for which you have no mate, it's a good thing > to minimize the number of connections and/or work-arounds. The > idea of making semi-permanent splices in wires in TC aircraft > by soldering would get the designer a boat-load of tomatoes > and cabbages from all quarters. > > Of course, the "prudent system integrator" of a Jabiru rectifier- > regulator would go get a mating connector or special order regulators > fitted with a connector of choice. Shucks, we could turn a $25 part > into a $250 part in a heart-beat. > > But this is YOUR airplane where design goals no doubt include > lowest practical cost of ownership . . . which also carries > the option of doing a "little extra work" at such time the > regulator needs replacing. > > My grab-it-and-run toolbox left over from Hawker-Beechcraft > days includes a gas-powered soldering iron that not only > lets me get a solder joint made up before the next guy > can get his choice of tools from the crib . . . but it will > shrink tubing too. > > It's process sensitive. You need to learn how to do some > things that probably scares the TC production line worker. > For low parts count, high joint integrity and personally > acceptable cost of ownership, the lowly soldering iron offers > a unique potential recipe for success. > > I was unpacking stuff in my collection of antique electronics > last week. I've had it in storage for about 15 years. At > the bottom of one box was a billy-club sized soldering > iron that was forwarded to me by my sisters when they were > helping Aunt Dorothy and Uncle Bill move into the nursing > home 20 years ago. > > It was the first plug-in-the-wall soldering iron I ever > had access to. Uncle bill showed me how it worked when I > was 9 years old. A couple months later, my own first iron > was a plumber's copper that had to be heated up on the stove. > > I still marvel at the idea that my folks didn't bat an > eye when I plunked that beast down on the kitchen stove > and came back a few minutes later to retrieve it. I'd > run to my workbench in the utility room and solder up > a joint or two. How many families would have the vision > and patience to offer their children those kinds of > opportunities today? > > When my grandson comes to visit for a few weeks next > summer I think we'll plug the billy-club in. He's > already put his hands on my Metcal hi-performance solder > station. We'll dig out about a half dozen more soldering > tools I have laying around. We'll splice some wires, build > some boxes from copper clad and maybe solder some > pipes too. > > That ancient technology is still pretty neat stuff . . . > > > Bob . . . > > --------------------------------------- > ( It's MATRONICS FUND RAISER MONTH! ) > ( Do your part to keep this marvelous ) > ( tool sharp and available to all our ) > ( brothers in the OBAM aviation ) > ( community. ) > --------------------------------------- > >




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