---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/28/09: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:23 AM - No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:56 AM - KX 170B Installation manual (Dave) 2. 07:31 AM - Re: KX 170B Installation manual (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 07:55 AM - Re: KX 170B Installation manual (Dave) 4. 09:04 AM - Re: KX 170B Installation manual (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 5. 09:50 AM - Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID (XeVision) 6. 10:05 AM - Re: KX 170B Installation manual (Dave) 7. 10:30 AM - Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID (AKflyers) 8. 11:19 AM - Re: Can a 4awg cable be too short? (messydeer) 9. 11:25 AM - Re: Can a 4awg cable be too short? (messydeer) 10. 12:06 PM - Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID (XeVision) 11. 12:54 PM - Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID (AKflyers) 12. 01:05 PM - Re: KX 170B Installation manual (Tony Babb) 13. 01:12 PM - Re: KX 170B Installation manual (Tony Babb) 14. 01:59 PM - Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID (XeVision) 15. 02:24 PM - Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID (AKflyers) 16. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 17. 04:16 PM - KX 170B Installation manual (Dave) 18. 04:44 PM - Re: KX 170B Installation manual (Colm O'Reilly) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:46 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: AeroElectric-List: No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly this year compared to last year, support during this year's List Fund Raiser has been woefully lagging from last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid on the List service expenses, I will have to look into some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation a float. The lunch combo at Carl's Jr costs nearly $10 these days. Isn't the List worth at least as much as a couple of burgers? Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:01 AM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual Does anyone know where a kx170b installation manual is on line. My a/i is helping another friend with a spam can and had a question about a mini bnc connnector. Thanks Dave ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:36 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual At 08:33 AM 11/28/2009, you wrote: > >Does anyone know where a kx170b installation manual is on line. My a/i >is helping another friend with a spam can and had a question about a >mini bnc connnector. If the question concerns a connector, perhaps the answer is not unique to the KX170 radio . . . I don't have a manual on the 170 but do for the following radios: http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/KX155_Installation_Manual.pdf http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/KX125_Inst_Manual_Corrected.pdf perhaps the needed information is contained in one of these publications. Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( It's MATRONICS FUND RAISER MONTH! ) ( Do your part to keep this marvelous ) ( tool sharp and available to all our ) ( brothers in the OBAM aviation ) ( community. ) --------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:31 AM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual Bob, You are probably correct. He was curious about a connector that looks like a bnc connector but is smaller. I didn't have a lot of time to dig into the issue, I just took it at face value he needed the manual. I tried looking on your website, I would get the following error on some of your downloadable files. ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /aeroelectric/Installation_Data/on this server. Apache/2.0.52 Server at www.matronics.com Port 80 Thanks Dave ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:58 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual At 09:45 AM 11/28/2009, you wrote: > >Bob, > >You are probably correct. He was curious about a connector that looks >like a bnc connector but is smaller. ??? I don't recall having encountered a "mini" BNC connector. The next size down in my experience is the SMA series devices which are quite common in the antenna systems for WiFi networks etc. > I didn't have a lot of time to dig >into the issue, I just took it at face value he needed the manual. I >tried looking on your website, I would get the following error on some >of your downloadable files. > >ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access >/aeroelectric/Installation_Data/on this server. Hmmmm . . . I've had a couple of complaints about that recently. I don't know what's changed. I downloaded both of those manuals successfully to my computer in Wichita before I posted the links. Just for grins, I reset all the permissions on the entire suite of files in that folder along with the folder itself. It might be a problem with how your email hands off the URL to your browser. The link wasn't "folded" on your e-mail page, was it? Here's some tiny-URL links. Try again. http://tinyurl.com/yl8g2sg http://tinyurl.com/yjbuo43 Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( It's MATRONICS FUND RAISER MONTH! ) ( Do your part to keep this marvelous ) ( tool sharp and available to all our ) ( brothers in the OBAM aviation ) ( community. ) --------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:32 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID From: "XeVision" Bump: Please read this link regarding this product suitability for use with HID -------- LED still has a long way to go to compete with HID as a landing light. This is true in terms of total lumens and reach (distance). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275212#275212 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:52 AM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual Bob, I was able to access the links you sent in this email and the previous email. However when I try to access some of your sections on your website ( the radio pinout guide, reference documents, and FAQ's,) I still get the following message. ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /aeroelectric/Installation_Data/on this server. Apache/2.0.52 Server at www.matronics.com Port 80 All of the other sections I can access. At least the ones I have tried (I tried all of them listed in the Reference section ) I will talk to my friend and see if I can clarify his question. Thanks for your time. Dave -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" At 09:45 AM 11/28/2009, you wrote: Bob, You are probably correct. He was curious about a connector that looks like a bnc connector but is smaller. ??? I don't recall having encountered a "mini" BNC connector. The next size down in my experience is the SMA series devices which are quite common in the antenna systems for WiFi networks etc. I didn't have a lot of time to dig into the issue, I just took it at face value he needed the manual. I tried looking on your website, I would get the following error on some of your downloadable files. ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /aeroelectric/Installation_Data/on this server. Hmmmm . . . I've had a couple of complaints about that recently. I don't know what's changed. I downloaded both of those manuals successfully to my computer in Wichita before I posted the links. Just for grins, I reset all the permissions on the entire suite of files in that folder along with the folder itself. It might be a problem with how your email hands off the URL to your browser. The link wasn't "folded" on your e-mail page, was it? Here's some tiny-URL links. Try again. http://tinyurl.com/yl8g2sg http://tinyurl.com/yjbuo43 Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( It's MATRONICS FUND RAISER MONTH! ) ( Do your part to keep this marvelous ) ( tool sharp and available to all our ) ( brothers in the OBAM aviation ) ( community. ) --------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:41 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID From: "AKflyers" Uh, you haven't seen the latest on the MaxPulse perhaps. It has a user adjustable time delay for full on prior to pulsing - from 0 to 60 seconds. So I'm not sure what you mean here. -------- Yes, that little brown spot in the picture is a bear. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275219#275219 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:18 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Can a 4awg cable be too short? From: "messydeer" Here are some pics of the new cable. The hand crimping tool they used had was like a bolt cutter, with long handles. The indentation left was roughly a 3/16" cube. -------- Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275221#275221 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/4awg_soldered_175.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/hws_crimped_4_125.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:25:27 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Can a 4awg cable be too short? From: "messydeer" last pic -------- Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275222#275222 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_short_4awg_in_place_115.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:07 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID From: "XeVision" AKflyers wrote: > Uh, you haven't seen the latest on the MaxPulse perhaps. It has a user adjustable time delay for full on prior to pulsing - from 0 to 60 seconds. > So I'm not sure what you mean here. I thought you were selling the old inventory (on sale) before the new stuff (with new features) and higher prices. Also most of the pulse rates are not compatible with HID either, only the fastest one is. That is very interesting when everyone involved with that product was insisting that 5 seconds was plenty for all applications. That is until a couple of weeks ago. I wonder what changed their minds ?? -------- LED still has a long way to go to compete with HID as a landing light. This is true in terms of total lumens and reach (distance). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275224#275224 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:03 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID From: "AKflyers" Don't know about the things you mention. I'm not selling anything. I believe you are. I submitted information only. I assume equipment changes, most times are made for the good. Not using the forum and mailing lists to promote a product, unlike some. -------- Yes, that little brown spot in the picture is a bear. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275229#275229 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:05:55 PM PST US From: "Tony Babb" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual Bob, The full URLs in your previous e-mail and the tinyurIs in the most recent e-mail all worked for me - Win XP/MS Outlook/IE8 Tony -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual At 09:45 AM 11/28/2009, you wrote: Bob, You are probably correct. He was curious about a connector that looks like a bnc connector but is smaller. ??? I don't recall having encountered a "mini" BNC connector. The next size down in my experience is the SMA series devices which are quite common in the antenna systems for WiFi networks etc. I didn't have a lot of time to dig into the issue, I just took it at face value he needed the manual. I tried looking on your website, I would get the following error on some of your downloadable files. ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /aeroelectric/Installation_Data/on this server. Hmmmm . . . I've had a couple of complaints about that recently. I don't know what's changed. I downloaded both of those manuals successfully to my computer in Wichita before I posted the links. Just for grins, I reset all the permissions on the entire suite of files in that folder along with the folder itself. It might be a problem with how your email hands off the URL to your browser. The link wasn't "folded" on your e-mail page, was it? Here's some tiny-URL links. Try again. http://tinyurl.com/yl8g2sg http://tinyurl.com/yjbuo43 Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( It's MATRONICS FUND RAISER MONTH! ) ( Do your part to keep this marvelous ) ( tool sharp and available to all our ) ( brothers in the OBAM aviation ) ( community. ) --------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:12:35 PM PST US From: "Tony Babb" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual I was able to access several of the radio pinouts, reference documents and the FAQs. Win XP/ IE8 -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:26 AM Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual Bob, I was able to access the links you sent in this email and the previous email. However when I try to access some of your sections on your website ( the radio pinout guide, reference documents, and FAQ's,) I still get the following message. ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /aeroelectric/Installation_Data/on this server. Apache/2.0.52 Server at www.matronics.com Port 80 All of the other sections I can access. At least the ones I have tried (I tried all of them listed in the Reference section ) I will talk to my friend and see if I can clarify his question. Thanks for your time. Dave -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" At 09:45 AM 11/28/2009, you wrote: Bob, You are probably correct. He was curious about a connector that looks like a bnc connector but is smaller. ??? I don't recall having encountered a "mini" BNC connector. The next size down in my experience is the SMA series devices which are quite common in the antenna systems for WiFi networks etc. I didn't have a lot of time to dig into the issue, I just took it at face value he needed the manual. I tried looking on your website, I would get the following error on some of your downloadable files. ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /aeroelectric/Installation_Data/on this server. Hmmmm . . . I've had a couple of complaints about that recently. I don't know what's changed. I downloaded both of those manuals successfully to my computer in Wichita before I posted the links. Just for grins, I reset all the permissions on the entire suite of files in that folder along with the folder itself. It might be a problem with how your email hands off the URL to your browser. The link wasn't "folded" on your e-mail page, was it? Here's some tiny-URL links. Try again. http://tinyurl.com/yl8g2sg http://tinyurl.com/yjbuo43 Bob . . . --------------------------------------- ( It's MATRONICS FUND RAISER MONTH! ) ( Do your part to keep this marvelous ) ( tool sharp and available to all our ) ( brothers in the OBAM aviation ) ( community. ) --------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:51 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID From: "XeVision" AKflyers wrote: > Don't know about the things you mention. I'm not selling anything. I believe you are. I submitted information only. I assume equipment changes, most times are made for the good. Not using the forum and mailing lists to promote a product, unlike some. Sure you are "selling" something, your ideas and opinions. You are also helping a "friend" sell their products by promoting them. You may not get any financial compensation, but you are motivated by something. I came on here to counter some less than complete information on HID technology. Also, to inform users of the limitations of some products for suitability with HID. Look at my posts again, they are all based on industry accepted facts regarding HID. -------- LED still has a long way to go to compete with HID as a landing light. This is true in terms of total lumens and reach (distance). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275233#275233 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:14 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID From: "AKflyers" Wow, I give up. A "friend"?? You win. I'm not going to keep this thread going to prove some point. I have read your posts and they are very informative, enlightening and self promoting. You are very knowledgeable about HID things. Thanks for that. I think I am going with LoPresti's information. -------- Yes, that little brown spot in the picture is a bear. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275235#275235 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:50 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: MaxPulse warm-up and pulse rates suitability for HID At 03:56 PM 11/28/2009, you wrote: > > >AKflyers wrote: > > Don't know about the things you mention. I'm not selling > anything. I believe you are. I submitted information only. I > assume equipment changes, most times are made for the good. Not > using the forum and mailing lists to promote a product, unlike some. While the Lists were created for the sharing of knowledge and understanding, it's also appropriate for entrepreneurs to make others aware of their goods and services of interest to the OBAM aviation community. This is not advertising, it's awareness enhancement. The products I make available are supported with detailed information on how they work, when they are applicable to a task, and honorably compared with similar products. In some cases, I've supplied schematics, bills of materials and even etched circuit boards for those disposed to slinging a little solder. It'a also appropriate for List members to exchange information on the latest and greatest of new products offered by folks who are not members of a Matronics list. Advertisement is an intrusion upon your intellectual space. Sharing of knowledge and understanding about ingredients that go into various recipes for success can only help us improve upon the-best-we-know-how- to-do. The fact that some folks exchange $time$ in the form of conversation, hardware or even a sum of cash seems irrelevant in this, the most free of all aviation markplaces. Let's hang onto those cabbages and tomatoes. Save them for the first person who posts a pop-up to sell Amway or See-Far sunglasses! Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:16:17 PM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual Tony, Thanks for the info. I fired up my dell laptop XP with SP3 and I was also able to access the files. Went over to the Imac running firefox and still had the same issue. Dave I was able to access several of the radio pinouts, reference documents and the FAQs. Win XP/ IE8 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: KX 170B Installation manual From: "Colm O'Reilly" All links worked fine on my Imac with Safari. On Nov 28, 2009, at 7:14 PM, Dave wrote: > > > Tony, > > > Thanks for the info. I fired up my dell laptop XP with SP3 and I was > also able to access the files. > Went over to the Imac running firefox and still had the same issue. > > > Dave > > > > > I was able to access several of the radio pinouts, reference documents > and > the FAQs. 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