AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Fri 12/18/09


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 04:44 AM - Re: Follow Up to Power Opti-Miser (icrashrc)
     2. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Follow Up to Power Opti-Miser (ROGER & JEAN CURTIS)
     3. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Follow Up to Power Opti-Miser (Lynn Riggs)
     4. 12:51 PM - will LR3C work with the Z-13/8? (Lincoln Keill)
     5. 03:26 PM - Re: Kind of off topic. Speed sensor needed. (David E. Nelson)
     6. 07:45 PM - Re: will LR3C work with the Z-13/8? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:44:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Follow Up to Power Opti-Miser
    From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
    nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect wrote: > At 07:56 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote: > > > Bob, thanks so much for replying to my post about my experience with > > low power factor appliances. I see that I need to study some more > > so I can understand this better. I've stubbed my toe on power > > factor questions before, so I'm not surprised. You've asked good > > questions that I'll address after I study up! > > > > > > My pleasure sir. I'd like to know more about > your homepower experiences. At the least, an > off-list conversation would be welcome . . . > but I'm pretty certain that out of 1800 > subscribers, there's a significant interest > in the practice and technology. > > Shucks, some of the folks might have remote > hangars they'd like to "power up". What ever > you're comfortable with is fine with me. > > Bob . . . I vote for a public discussion so we all can learn a little. -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278047#278047


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    Time: 06:21:42 AM PST US
    From: "ROGER & JEAN CURTIS" <mrspudandcompany@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Follow Up to Power Opti-Miser
    > > My pleasure sir. I'd like to know more about > your homepower experiences. At the least, an > off-list conversation would be welcome . . . > but I'm pretty certain that out of 1800 > subscribers, there's a significant interest > in the practice and technology. > > Shucks, some of the folks might have remote > hangars they'd like to "power up". What ever > you're comfortable with is fine with me. > > Bob . . . I vote for a public discussion so we all can learn a little. -------- Scott I second that request! Roger


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    Time: 06:21:42 AM PST US
    From: "Lynn Riggs" <riggs_la@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Follow Up to Power Opti-Miser
    I will second that vote. Lynn A. Riggs BH 656 Kit 22 -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of icrashrc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:42 AM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Follow Up to Power Opti-Miser nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect wrote: > At 07:56 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote: > > > Bob, thanks so much for replying to my post about my experience with > > low power factor appliances. I see that I need to study some more > > so I can understand this better. I've stubbed my toe on power > > factor questions before, so I'm not surprised. You've asked good > > questions that I'll address after I study up! > > > > > > My pleasure sir. I'd like to know more about > your homepower experiences. At the least, an > off-list conversation would be welcome . . . > but I'm pretty certain that out of 1800 > subscribers, there's a significant interest > in the practice and technology. > > Shucks, some of the folks might have remote > hangars they'd like to "power up". What ever > you're comfortable with is fine with me. > > Bob . . . I vote for a public discussion so we all can learn a little. -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278047#278047


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    Time: 12:51:41 PM PST US
    From: Lincoln Keill <airlincoln@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: will LR3C work with the Z-13/8?
    I'm tallying up another order to B&C as I build the bones of Z-13/8 and cam e up with this question: -Will the B&C LR3C controller (which functions a s a all-in-one regulator, over-voltage protection and low-voltage warning) work with Z-13/8? -I ask because the tech sheet says the LR3C only works with "Type B" alternator systems, which I think means the regulator sits be tween the bus and the alternator. -Looking at Z-13/8, it appears as if it is designed for a "Type A" alternator whereby the alternator output (the B lead) gets sent directly to the bus. -It may be that I'm mixed up and th ey are referring to need to have the field line run from the bus, thru the regulator and then to the alternator. -Anyone successfully using the LR3C controller with Z-13/8? -Comments, corrections and suggestions encourage d... Lincoln KeillRV-7A


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    Time: 03:26:07 PM PST US
    From: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
    Subject: Re: Kind of off topic. Speed sensor needed.
    Hi Sam, How about a Wii game console remote? These little remotes have a 3-axis accelerometer, Bluetooth, and an IR camera all for the cost of about $40/ea. They are durable and available at any Wal-Mart so replacements easy should they ever get lost, damaged, etc. There are several examples of interfacing these guys w/ PC's, also. In fact, some scientific communities are using them instead of high dollar/special purpose sensors: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/12/wiimote-science/ Some more example usage and some Wii remote specs: http://johnnylee.net/projects/wii/ More info on the remote can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Remote What I was thinking was: 1) With the accelerometer, they can be accurately aimed straight up thus ensuring that the distance between the two points is accurate regardless of the height of the aircraft. 2) Provide a good IR source pointing up. 3) Place some reflective tape on the bottom of the aircraft in such a manner that it won't affect the surface. 4) Do this on both ends of the runway, throw in some WiFi (to allow communications and to synchronize the time) , some WiFi and Bluetooth enabled laptops (Bluetooth dongles cost $20/ea), some programming (there are C, C# and python libraries available for free), and I'd think you'd have a fairly inexpensive setup assuming that equipment could be donated, borrowed, and/or purchased as used. Some testing would have to be done if a target could even be detected at 100' AGL in strong daylight. Given that, everything else is doable. One could go so far as to build dedicated enclosures using micro-ATX motherboards with all the included components for very reasonable prices. If you know of anybody with a Wii remote and a Linux based PC, have them look into the "CWiid" package. It comes with a 'wmgui' demo program so that you, or anybody else, can get a feel for how things work. Regards, /\/elson Austin, TX ~~ Lately my memory seems to be like a steel trap .... without any spring. ~~ On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Sam Hoskins wrote: > Aeroelectric listers, > > We're looking for a bright idea. Preferably an inexpensive one. > > The Sport Air Racing League, http://www.sportairrace.org/ is trying to develop an accurate and reliable way to time the speed of an aircraft zooming down a runway, at 50 feet or so. They are > looking for some kind of trigger that will start the clock at one end, and stop it at the far end. > > We don't really want to erect pylons to fly through to break a beam, that would be unwieldy. Some of the guys have looked at airborne systems, such as GPS tracking, but it's not accurate > enough. > > The SARL group is having a hard time coming up with something. Anybody have any thoughts how we might accomplish this? > > Thanks for any ideas. > > Sam Hoskins > Race 22! > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:45:55 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: will LR3C work with the Z-13/8?
    At 02:48 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: >I'm tallying up another order to B&C as I build the bones of Z-13/8 >and came up with this question: Will the B&C LR3C controller (which >functions as a all-in-one regulator, over-voltage protection and >low-voltage warning) work with Z-13/8? Sure > I ask because the tech sheet says the LR3C only works with "Type > B" alternator systems, which I think means the regulator sits > between the bus and the alternator. Looking at Z-13/8, it appears > as if it is designed for a "Type A" alternator whereby the > alternator output (the B lead) gets sent directly to the bus. It > may be that I'm mixed up and they are referring to need to have the > field line run from the bus, thru the regulator and then to the > alternator. Anyone successfully using the LR3C controller with Z-13/8? LR3 series regulators are designed to work with any, wound field, externally regulated alternator wherein one field brush is permanently connected to ground (type B). See: http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Schematics/External_Regulator.jpg Any B&C alternator other than permanent magnet devices are type B. Virtually all alternators on type certificated aircraft are type B. Type A connection is found on INTERNALLY regulated alternators and feature one field brush connected to the alternator output or B-terminal are conventionally called type A. See: http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Schematics/Internal_Regulator.jpg This is the most popular convention for the vast majority of automotive alternators. Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================




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