---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/13/10: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:49 AM - AeroElectric-List Digest: (Jesse Jenks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:13 AM PST US From: Jesse Jenks Subject: AeroElectric-List: AeroElectric-List Digest: Time: 06:36:34 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls=2C III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: planning >So=2C I guess the jumper is what causes the run-on=2C and whatever I do >I don't want it in there. I don't already have a separate contactor=2C >so the way I understand it my options are=3B 1) use Z-22 with a relay=2C >2) just use a push button rated for 30 amps and no relay. Yes. >Can you explain why run-on is a problem if it only lasts a couple seconds? The design goal for engagement solenoids with integral contactors is to effect immediate retraction of the pinion gear when the starter button is released. There ARE over-run clutches in the starter gearing that prevents the engine from back-driving the starter. These are VERY important . . . For a small starter to be efficient=2C the armature is highly geared down to crank the engine at 150 to 300 rpm. when the engine starts=2C it's suddenly running at 4x that speed. Were it not for over-run clutches=2C this would immediately spin the armature up to 4x it's operating speed and probably throw windings=2C commutator bars=2C or strip gear teeth. The run-on phenomenon simply exercises the over-run mechanism and increases pinion wear for reasons that do not add value . . . and would not happen except for an unintended consequence of using the solenoid/ contactor in a manner contrary to original design goals. Bob . . . Thanks Bob. I think I finally get it. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.