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1. 05:47 AM - Re: Connector options for easy wing removal (glen matejcek)
2. 06:10 AM - Re:Routing Fuselage Wiring (RV-7) (glen matejcek)
3. 06:22 AM - Re: Timing question for brushed motor (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 07:30 AM - Re: JFK Jr and all (Speedy11@aol.com)
5. 07:55 AM - Re: Routing Fuselage Wiring (RV-7) (Speedy11@aol.com)
6. 08:09 AM - SD-8 Sink Point ()
7. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: JFK Jr and all (Richard Girard)
8. 09:50 AM - Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA (Sam Hoskins)
9. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: JFK Jr and all (RGent1224@aol.com)
10. 10:47 AM - Malibu accident (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 10:50 AM - Re: SD-8 Sink Point (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: JFK Jr and all ()
13. 12:15 PM - Re: Jhp 520 PTT cable (Danny)
14. 01:21 PM - Re: Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA (jaybannist@cs.com)
15. 01:23 PM - Re: SD-8 Sink Point ()
16. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Jhp 520 PTT cable (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
17. 03:34 PM - Re: Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA (ROGER & JEAN CURTIS)
18. 06:35 PM - Re: Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA (Ed Anderson)
19. 11:03 PM - Official AeroElectric-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
20. 11:13 PM - Official AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | RE: Connector options for easy wing removal |
HI Wade-
My plan for wing wiring connectors to facilitate wing removal is to lay the
groundwork for the connectors without actually installing them. This
includes running all the wires through an accessible area near the root,
putting a service loop in the bundle, and labelling all the wires twice
with the labels about a foot apart. This way there will be no electrical
or mx issues with the connectors. Should I ever have to remove the wings,
I can just cut the wire bundle between the two bunches of labels and
install a connector prior to reinstallation of the wings. Likewise the
pitot line.
FWIW-
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | RE:Routing Fuselage Wiring (RV-7) |
Hi Wade-
I'm building an -8 and am not intimate with the details of a -7, but I
would suggest that although the odds of a properly secured wiring bundle
somehow fouling the elevator controls might be small, they are zero if they
are routed elsewhere. What I have done is to install corrugated conduit
under the floorboards (and elsewhere). I have left a length of sturdy
string in each conduit that is something over twice the length of the
conduit, and the string has a toggle at each end made of dowel that is long
enough to keep the end of the string from disappearing into the conduit. I
use the string as a fish tape, and once I am sure I won't be adding more
wires to the bundle, I can remove the string. I suspect I'll leave it in
there permanently, though, as much for 'polar bear repellant' as anything
else.
Getting the string into the conduit is easy. Put an inch and a half or two
inches of dowel on the end of the string and use a blow gun. Just be sure
to hang on to the loose end of the string, as this technique works waaaayy
better than I'd ever have expected... ;-)
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Timing question for brushed motor |
At 01:06 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Bob
>Thx. for the reply.
>"Are you certain that the brush clocking has been optimized for one
>direction over another?"
>Timing on a brushed motor is every bit as important as timing on a
>internal combustion engine. A small displacement high performance 2
>stroke, even though it has a small displacement is making a lot of
>HP for its size and timing is critical.
But was your motor received from the factory
optimized for one direction? And if so, at what
load? When we build PM motors as catalog items,
it is assumed that an end user may run it either
direction. Hence the brush clocking is centered
on the net field for zero-torque.
> Same goes for small high RPM electric motors. There is an ideal
> timing setting depending on what you are looking for. Best
> efficency will net less heat build up and longer life with less
> arcing, but does not make best amount of power. Often with electric
> models motors are pushed to get best power to weight. A neutral
> timed motor, meaning that current draw unloaded with not so much
> voltage as to over speed is the same forward as reverse direction
> will yield a motor that works equally bad in both directions.
The reason for seeking an optimized brush
position is because the magnetic flux generated
in armature reacts with the fixed field flux
and distorts or "twists" the net field for
ideal commutation. This distortion is a function
of ampere-turns of flux generating power
at the operating point of interest. Change
the torque setting and the optimum point shifts.
This is why large motors have compensating
field windings in series with the brushes
that tend to stabilize the rotation of net
flux as the armature current increases.
But since compensating windings are physically
offset in fixed rotation from the main
field windings, compensation can be accomplished
only for one direction. Our 3 hp air conditioner
motors were fitted with compensation windings
as were our 10 hp hydraulic pump motors.
> That said it works OK but makes not best HP at high RPM. Advancing
> does good things for RPM and HP with just a tad more current draw.
> Now for retarded timing, it is bad all around. It draws more
> current, arcs and spits and does not make much HP or RPMs. I never
> fooled with measuring or failing motors at reduced power settings
> and only 5 degrees retarded. A motor like this I may push in a
> model well over 125 watts for short times, and advancing will
> bring out more power. depending on motor, prop and duration and
> voltage and I may go as high as 15 plus degrees advanced.
I'm not sure the motors you've been working with
were optimized so much for efficiency as for
hp/weight ratio. There's a bucket full of trade-offs
when designing motors. When optimizing costs
and gross performance in small motors for models
I suspect other features like commutation
efficiency suffers . . .
To determine if your cooling fan application
would benefit from fine tuning of brush position
would take some bench study on a dynamometer
and precision instrumentation.
You would want to get torque and rpm targets
for the two modes of operation . . . but since
you're PWM controlling for speed, you may
have operating points scattered all over the
place.
The short answer to you original question
is, "Yes, there are things you can do to research
and perhaps optimize performance of the motor
at some point in constellation of operating
points. But without the benefit of dynamic
compensation, you'll have to select the one
place where all is "right with the world"
and let the rest of the conditions fall where
they may.
This could very well turn into a pretty detailed
science project. What's the design goal and what's
the expected benefit for achieving it. And how do
you gage the return on investment for doing the
science?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: JFK Jr and all |
Rick,
I agree with Terry - if something bores you, then don't read it. I have
no idea what the thread you're talking about says because I have bothered to
read it.
Oh no - have we started another thread that is boring people? I hope they
do selective reading.
Stan Sutterfield
Do not archive
Yes, you can use the delete key, I do all the time. The problem is that the
subject title never gets changed to reflect the content so you have a few
people engaged in the beginnings of a flame war while Bob continues to
discuss real issues under the same heading.
It isn't censorship to ask people to maintain decorum and use the forum for
it's declared intent IMHO.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Terry Watson <terry@tcwatson.com> wrote:
> Delete key. Delete key. Delete key.
>
> Let people say what they want. We don=92t have to read it all, any more t
han
> we have to watch everything on TV or listen to everything on the radio or
> read the entire newspaper. Someone posted a link to the accident report,
> which changed my mind about what I thought I knew about JFK Jr=92s accide
nt.
>
> Listen selectively, please. Don=92t censor. This thread too will pass.
>
> Terry
>
> *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: JFK Jr and all
>
> I'm really not entirely sure what any of this has to do with an electrica
l
> system in an airplane and I've no doubt this is of tremendous to those of
> you discussing it, but would you all mind getting a chat room or another
> venue where you can whack away at each other without boring the holy crap
> out of the rest of us.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: Routing Fuselage Wiring (RV-7) |
Wade,
I used PVC conduit throughout my RV for routing wiring and other things.
I chose PVC because 1) it is smooth on the inside which makes
pushing/pulling things through easier, 2) it is cheap 3) it protects the wiring
and
tubing well from daily abrasiveness and 4) it is easy to make an entry/exit
hole wherever needed. I did not used connectors at the wing root for wiring
because I expect to never remove the wings. Should I need to remove the
wings, I can then add in connectors if desired. I ran PVC along the fuselage
sides under the consoles for passing wiring front to back and through the
wings to pass wiring out to the tips. It worked fine for me - although a
few times I could have used larger diameter tubing.
You can se some of what I did at _http://www.rv-8a.net/2006.htm_
(http://www.rv-8a.net/2006.htm) and scroll down to April.
Stan Sutterfield
Do not archive
I need suggestions as to the best location and method to route the wiring
from the rear fuselage up to the panel/subpanel area in my RV-7 project.
I
have the following equipment wiring that needs to be handled:
--AFS magnetometer wires,
--AP Pitch Servo,
--ELT panel switch,
--strobe power supply leads,
--electric elevator trim,
--GPS antenna coax,
--marker beacon antenna coax.
Are most builders routing their rear fuselage wiring in the center elevator
push-tube channel? If so, should one use corrugated plastic conduit or
simply bundles and snap bushings?
Any suggestions/photos would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Wade Roe
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My setup is based on Z13/8 and I've got an SD-8 which is wired per the
diagram back to the battery side of the contactor. That post has limited
threads available for the 2 thread safety margin I require. I would like
to determine if the SD8 output can be re-positioned.
Is there any issue with connecting the output from the SD8 to the
battery buss post instead of running it back to the battery side of the
solenoid which is exactly where the battery buss is coming from? Per the
diagram the output passes through a 10 amp shunt.
Thanks,
Glenn
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| Subject: | Re: JFK Jr and all |
I'm sorry, I don't get it. There are literally thousands of places on the
web to talk about anything under the sun. This forum is about aircraft
electrical systems. A finely focused purpose that provides a real service.
My objections are two fold. One, the material had absolutely nothing to do
with electrical systems. Two, the comments were just piled up on a topic
already under discussion. It's not as simple as just hitting the delete key
unless you're willing to throw out the pepper with the fly poop?
Where do you draw the line? Porn? Hate Groups? Islamic terrorists? Or do we
just have to tolerate small minds who want to start an insult war to satisfy
God knows what? What is wrong with having the manners to take non forum
discussions off list or to another more appropriate group, or better yet,
communicate directly with your adversary and leave the aeroelectric forum
for it's intended purpose?
Rick
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:26 AM, <Speedy11@aol.com> wrote:
> Rick,
>
> I agree with Terry - if something bores you, then don't read it. I have no
> idea what the thread you're talking about says because I have bothered to
> read it.
>
> Oh no - have we started another thread that is boring people? I hope they
> do selective reading.
>
> Stan Sutterfield
> Do not archive
>
>
> Yes, you can use the delete key, I do all the time. The problem is that the
> subject title never gets changed to reflect the content so you have a few
> people engaged in the beginnings of a flame war while Bob continues to
> discuss real issues under the same heading.
> It isn't censorship to ask people to maintain decorum and use the forum for
> it's declared intent IMHO.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Terry Watson <terry@tcwatson.com> wrote:
>
> > Delete key. Delete key. Delete key.
> >
> > Let people say what they want. We don=92t have to read it all, any more t
> han
> > we have to watch everything on TV or listen to everything on the radio or
> > read the entire newspaper. Someone posted a link to the accident report,
> > which changed my mind about what I thought I knew about JFK Jr=92s accide
> nt.
> >
> > Listen selectively, please. Don=92t censor. This thread too will pass.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: JFK Jr and all
> >
> > I'm really not entirely sure what any of this has to do with an electrica
> l
> > system in an airplane and I've no doubt this is of tremendous to those of
> > you discussing it, but would you all mind getting a chat room or another
> > venue where you can whack away at each other without boring the holy crap
> > out of the rest of us.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rick Girard
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA |
I guess this qualifies as an LSA. Great job by my friend Jeff.
http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/fastluscombe.html<http://home.mchsi.com/%7Eshoskins/fastluscombe.html>
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| Subject: | Re: JFK Jr and all |
Because of this era of PC you might hurt someone's feelings and infringe on
their 1st amendment rights
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In a message dated 4/1/2010 11:42:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
aslsa.rng@gmail.com writes:
What is wrong with having the manners to take non forum discussions off
list or to another more appropriate group, or better yet, communicate
directly with your adversary and leave the aeroelectric forum for it's intended
purpose?
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>What is wrong with having the manners to take non forum discussions
>off list or to another more appropriate group, or better yet,
>communicate directly with your adversary and leave the aeroelectric
>forum for it's intended purpose?
The intended purpose of this List is to share enlightenment
on minimizing risk and cost of ownership for the pleasure
of climbing into an airplane with an intention of going
faster than mere ground-bound mortals while grinning ear-to-ear.
Risk is reduced by failure tolerant design and understanding.
BOTH are work products of study and good critical thinking.
Since the ultimate failure of our best intentions bends
metal and breaks people, I'll suggest that studious analysis
of cause and effect of any accident is an exercise in
critical thinking. I will continue participate in
this activity and encourage all interested members to
join in.
But folks intent upon making the discussion about personalities,
cultural status, or trading insults are invited to take
the activity elsewhere.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: SD-8 Sink Point |
At 10:05 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:
>
>My setup is based on Z13/8 and I've got an SD-8 which is wired per the
>diagram back to the battery side of the contactor. That post has limited
>threads available for the 2 thread safety margin I require. I would like
>to determine if the SD8 output can be re-positioned.
>
>Is there any issue with connecting the output from the SD8 to the
>battery buss post instead of running it back to the battery side of the
>solenoid which is exactly where the battery buss is coming from? Per the
>diagram the output passes through a 10 amp shunt.
Certainly wires can be moved around in terms of which
ends connect to where . . . as long as the pathways
of copper are still contiguous.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: JFK Jr and all |
Do you folks still think justice is fair and the US is a free country?
Wait until you all run out and get ADSB and the man is right there in
cab with you.
Do not Archive, we don't want to hurt feelings.
Do not Archive - Get back to wiring those widgets.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RGent1224@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: JFK Jr and all
Because of this era of PC you might hurt someone's feelings and infringe
on their 1st amendment rights <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In a message dated 4/1/2010 11:42:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
aslsa.rng@gmail.com writes:
What is wrong with having the manners to take non forum discussions off
list or to another more appropriate group, or better yet, communicate
directly with your adversary and leave the aeroelectric forum for it's
intended purpose?
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| Subject: | Re: Jhp 520 PTT cable |
Thanks,
I borrowed a David Clark c 10-15 PTT switch.- I moved the wires in the on
e jack I could get open every way I could think of.- No help.
-
I wonder if I could cut the wire to the internal mike on the radio, and jus
t use it with the headset only and no remote PTT.
- DjD
--- On Sun, 3/28/10, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
From: rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Jhp 520 PTT cable
As it happens, Japan Radio Corp sold this product to Rexon Tech.
It is now known as the RHP-520. You can find the users manual on the
web and download it as I did.
In a brief scan, I saw nothing about the PTT jack or any detail about
headset operation.- The headset adapter cable I have does not split out
a ptt jack
The RHP nee RHP- is a great little radio IMHO!
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292139#292139
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA |
Not likely, but a GREAT tale !!
Jay Bannister
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Thanks Bob. Move it shall be.
Glenn E. Long
Do Not Archive
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Robert L. Nuckolls, III
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: SD-8 Sink Point
<nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
At 10:05 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:
>
>My setup is based on Z13/8 and I've got an SD-8 which is wired per the
>diagram back to the battery side of the contactor. That post has
limited
>threads available for the 2 thread safety margin I require. I would
like
>to determine if the SD8 output can be re-positioned.
>
>Is there any issue with connecting the output from the SD8 to the
>battery buss post instead of running it back to the battery side of the
>solenoid which is exactly where the battery buss is coming from? Per
the
>diagram the output passes through a 10 amp shunt.
Certainly wires can be moved around in terms of which
ends connect to where . . . as long as the pathways
of copper are still contiguous.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Jhp 520 PTT cable |
At 02:08 PM 4/1/2010, you wrote:
>Thanks,
>I borrowed a David Clark c 10-15 PTT switch. I moved the wires in
>the one jack I could get open every way I could think of. No help.
>
>I wonder if I could cut the wire to the internal mike on the radio,
>and just use it with the headset only and no remote PTT.
I'm not sure the JHP-500 series radios will accept
external PTT. My cord only carries mic audio from
the headset to the radio. I use the hand-held's
built in PTT to transmit. If one can track down
a service manual with a schematic of the radio,
we could easily figure out what it takes.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA |
I believe it! ;=) Don't you??
Roger
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA |
Why certainly I do - what's not to believe? I mean, after all, it IS
posted to the internet {:>).
The guy did do a good job of the story. But, the sad truth (as you know),
is that the vast majority of readers would buy the story.
There was one circulating a while back regarding the Russian K-7 aircraft
that someone had "embellished" through digital "enhancement" that had a
cruiser turret (on top AND bottom of the aircraft) and just a whole bunch of
stuff that made it clear it would have collapsed under its weight - much
less ever fly). But, approx 97% of the comments I saw on the internet made
it clear that most folks thought it was real. The real Russian K-7 was a
large aircraft for its time, but nothing like that digital joke.
A sign of the times, I guess.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
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JEAN CURTIS
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Successful supersonic general aviation - LSA
I believe it! ;=) Don't you??
Roger
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There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each
one is described in detailed below. However, using the List Navigator
you can quickly access the complete set of features available for this
List. The List Navigator can be found at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
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*** How to Subscribe and Unsubscribe ***
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Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your email address and
select the List(s) that you wish to subscribe or unsubscribed from. You
may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the exact syntax of
your email address as it is subscribed to the List. Please see the
complete instructions at the top of the Web Page for more information.
The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails regarding your subsciption
process. The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption request
was received, and the second confirms that the process has been completed.
You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request.
The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post
until you receive the second conformation email message.
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*** How to Post a Message ***
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Send an email message to:
aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Your message will be redistributed to everyone currently subscribed
to the List.
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*** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post ***
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When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message
is checked and compared against the current subscription list. If the
email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.
If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it
is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that
gets posted to the Lists.
Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important
with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook
or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be
functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM
test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:
smith@machine.domain.com
smith@domain.com
Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure
your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to
the List.
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*** Enclosure Support on the Lists ***
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Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures, documents, and spreadsheets
is supported on the Lists. There are a number of restrictions, and these
are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the
content of enclosures.
These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics
Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules
could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
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*** Digest Mode ***
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Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to "aeroelectric-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
digest List.
* If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List, you
will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
the day.
* If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the
normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change
the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please
*do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
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*** List Digest Browser ***
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An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain text
or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to
the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found
at the following location:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
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*** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
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At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a very
small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive
it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the
message:
do not archive
Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to List
email distribution as normal.
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***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes *****
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Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the AeroElectric-List, go to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
If the problem listed on the web site above has been resolved, please feel
free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.
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*** List Member Information ***
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If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
paper mail address in the following format:
smith@somehost.com
Joe Smith
123 Airport Lane
Tower, CA 91234-1234
098-765-1234 w
123-456-7890 h
Please forward this information to the following email address:
requests@matronics.com
I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other commercial purpose.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
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Recent messages posted to the AeroElectric-List are also made available on
the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
Browser Interface in view-mode.
http://www.matronics.com/browselist/aeroelectric-list
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*** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
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A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all AeroElectric-List content.
content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
http://forums.matronics.com
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*** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
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In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed
information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
http://wiki.matronics.com
The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
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A file containing of all of the previous postings to the AeroElectric-List is
available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
* AeroElectric-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the AeroElectric-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* AeroElectric-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* AeroElectric-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* AeroElectric-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the AeroElectric-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* AeroElectric-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the AeroElectric-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
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All messages posted to the AeroElectric-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?AeroElectric
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**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
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You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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*** List Archive CDROM ***
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A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
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associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year during November
I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,
I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they
are comfortable.
I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the
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If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to
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AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the AeroElectric-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the AeroElectric-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
AeroElectric-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the AeroElectric-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
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| Subject: | Official AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
AeroElectric-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/AeroElectric-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the AeroElectric-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the AeroElectric-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
AeroElectric-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the AeroElectric-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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