---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/09/10: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:43 AM - Re: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! (Andrew Butler) 2. 05:14 AM - Re: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! (Harley) 3. 05:20 AM - Re: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! (Harley) 4. 05:59 AM - Re: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! (Robert Buls) 5. 07:07 AM - Re: Peer Review of Schematic (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 6. 08:08 AM - Re: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! (Ron Quillin) 7. 10:02 AM - Re: Peer Review of Schematic (jonlaury) 8. 10:24 AM - Re: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! (David LLoyd) 9. 02:47 PM - Re: Peer Review of Schematic (Noah) 10. 03:04 PM - Re: Peer Review of Schematic (Noah) 11. 06:48 PM - Lithium backup power (Speedy11@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:24 AM PST US From: Andrew Butler Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! Very funny! I wonder what this bloke would be able to do with the Z figures , linguistically speaking! Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sent: Friday, 9 April, 2010 01:31:28 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portu gal Subject: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! You have to have an engineer =99 s personality to understand why it i s so funny. Enjoy Reciprocating Dingle Arm This is a very funny and classic presentation organized by Rockwell Int'l. Read the introduction before clicking on the video link below. Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into the heavy duty transmission business. They were getting ready to tape a first introduction video, and as a warm up, the professional narrator began what has become a legend within the trucking industry. This man should have won an academy award for his stellar performance. Now remember this is strictly off the cuff, nothing is written down, this became the biggest talk in the industry, vs the new product which they were introducing. ==== == ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:51 AM PST US From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! How that guy could do all that with a straight face, I'll never know...I know that I couldn't! BTW...I think there was one of those in my son's 1976 Pinto Wagon! Harley ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Butler wrote: > Very funny! I wonder what this bloke would be able to do with the Z > figures, linguistically speaking! > > Do not archive. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us > To: "AeroelectricList" > Sent: Friday, 9 April, 2010 01:31:28 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, > Portugal > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! > > You have to have an engineer's personality to understand why it is so > funny. Enjoy > > **_Reciprocating Dingle Arm_***_ > _* > This is a very funny and classic presentation organized by > Rockwell Int'l. Read the introduction before clicking on the video > link below. > > Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into > the heavy duty transmission business. They were getting ready > to tape a first introduction video, and as a warm up, the > professional narrator began what has become a legend within the > trucking industry. This man should have won an academy award for his > stellar performance. Now remember this is strictly off the cuff, > nothing is written down, this became the biggest talk in the > industry, vs the new product which they were introducing. > > > Click here: **http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg** > > > * > > ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:45 AM PST US From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! Hmmm...it played fine in Windows Media player (Windows 7) here... Harley ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rob Housman wrote: > > What player or codec did you use to play the video? > > > > The Media Player in Windows 7 gives this error message: > > > > "\Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not > support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to > compress the file." > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Rob Housman > > Irvine, CA > > Europa XS Tri-Gear > > A070 > > Airframe complete > > > > > > > > *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of > *rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us > *Sent:* Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:31 PM > *To:* AeroelectricList > *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! > > > > You have to have an engineer's personality to understand why it is so > funny. Enjoy > > *_Reciprocating Dingle Arm_**_ > _* > This is a very funny and classic presentation organized by > Rockwell Int'l. Read the introduction before clicking on the video > link below. > > Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into > the heavy duty transmission business. They were getting ready > to tape a first introduction video, and as a warm up, the > professional narrator began what has become a legend within the > trucking industry. This man should have won an academy award for his > stellar performance. Now remember this is strictly off the cuff, > nothing is written down, this became the biggest talk in the > industry, vs the new product which they were introducing. > > > Click here: *http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg* > > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List* > ** > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:13 AM PST US From: Robert Buls Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! Yes, but is the "Turbo-encabulator" an outgrowth of, or a practical applica tion of, principles developed by Rockwell's incredibly versatile "Retro-enc abulator", already known to be in development? =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________ ___________________=0AFrom: Harley =0ATo: aeroelec tric-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, April 9, 2010 7:14:20 AM=0ASubject: Re : AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny!=0A=0AHmmm...it played fine in Windows Media player (Windows 7) here...=0A=0AHarley=0A =0A ________________________________=0A=0ARob Housman wrote: =0A> =0A> > =0A> What=0A>player or codec did you use to play the video?=0A> =0A>The=0A>Media Player in Windows 7 gives this error message:=0A> =0A>=9C\Windows=0A >Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the=0A>fil e type or=0A>might not support the codec that was used to compress the file .=9D=0A> =0A> =0A>Best=0A>regards,=0A> =0A>Rob=0A>Housman=0A>Irvine, =0A>CA =0A>Europa=0A>XS Tri-Gear=0A>A070=0A>Airframe=0A>complete=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>From:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-a eroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny .us=0A>Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:31 PM=0A>To: AeroelectricList=0A>Su bject: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is=0A>funny!=0A> =0A >You have to have an engineer=99s=0A>personality to understand why it is so funny. Enjoy =0A> Reciprocating=0A>Dingle Arm=0A>=0A>>This is a ver y funny and classic presentation organized by=0A>>Rockwell Int'l. Read the introduction before clicking on the video=0A>>link below.=0A>=0A>>Several y ears ago, Rockwell International decided to get into=0A>>the heavy duty tra nsmission business. They were getting ready=0A>>to tape a first introducti on video, and as a warm up, the=0A>>professional narrator began what has be come a legend within the=0A>>trucking industry. This man should have won a n academy award for his=0A>>stellar performance. Now remember this is stri ctly off the cuff,=0A>>nothing is written down, this became the biggest tal k in the=0A>>industry, vs the new product which they were introducing. =0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>> Click here: http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg =0A> =0A> =0A>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List=0A>htt p://forums.matronics.com=0A>http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A> =0A> =0A>=0A> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List=0A> href="http://forums. matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0A> href="http://www.matronics .com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A>=0A>=0A_______ _________________________=0A=0A>=0A>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =0A>=0A> ===================== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:14 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Peer Review of Schematic At 10:08 PM 4/8/2010, you wrote: > >Greetings- > >I am requesting comments on the following dual alternator single >battery schematic using Plane Power 60A and B&C SD-20 alternators >using an external SB-1B regulator. > >http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4748/100408.png When you post a customized power distribution diagram it would be most helpful if you also include design goals you expect to achieve that are over and above what was published in the nearest Z-figure match. One presumes that some design goal deficiency is perceived with an existing z-figure. This would prompt development of a new configuration. Without knowing what those deficiencies are, it's difficult if not impossible to evaluate effectiveness of the new configuration for meeting design goals. What drove the decision to use an SD-20 in lieu of the lighter and much less expensive SD-8? Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:10 AM PST US From: Ron Quillin Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! At 19:46 4/8/2010, you wrote: >From: "Rob Housman" > >What player or codec did you use to play the video? > >The Media Player in Windows 7 gives this error message: Player 11 works fine. Time for a free upgrade? > >"\Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not >support the file type or might not support the codec that was used >to compress the file." > > >Best regards, > >Rob Housman >Irvine, CA >Europa XS Tri-Gear >A070 >Airframe complete > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:34 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Peer Review of Schematic From: "jonlaury" Noah, Thanks for posting your schematic. As you know, I'm doing something similar because Z-13, with an SD-8, does not meet the needs of my all electric plane with high Ebus loads. I opted for a 40a Alt over the SD-20 largely because of cost and a small weight penalty. Questions: 1. Why the HE sensor and the shunt for the SD-20? 2. Part # for the HE sensor? 3. What kind of device is "Midi 30"? 4. "AFS"? Thanks, John Glasair IIS-TD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293663#293663 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:53 AM PST US From: "David LLoyd" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! If the "comcast.net" link does not work, then get YouTube up on your computer and search for "Turboencabulator". There are several versions of this technosmoke'em video. D ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Buls To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 5:56 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! Yes, but is the "Turbo-encabulator" an outgrowth of, or a practical application of, principles developed by Rockwell's incredibly versatile "Retro-encabulator", already known to be in development? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Harley To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 7:14:20 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! Hmmm...it played fine in Windows Media player (Windows 7) here... Harley ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Rob Housman wrote: What player or codec did you use to play the video? The Media Player in Windows 7 gives this error message: =9C\Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file.=9D Best regards, Rob Housman Irvine, CA Europa XS Tri-Gear A070 Airframe complete From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:31 PM To: AeroelectricList Subject: AeroElectric-List: Delete if you wish, but this is funny! You have to have an engineer=99s personality to understand why it is so funny. Enjoy Reciprocating Dingle Arm This is a very funny and classic presentation organized by Rockwell Int'l. Read the introduction before clicking on the video link below. Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into the heavy duty transmission business. They were getting ready to tape a first introduction video, and as a warm up, the professional narrator began what has become a legend within the trucking industry. This man should have won an academy award for his stellar performance. Now remember this is strictly off the cuff, nothing is written down, this became the biggest talk in the industry, vs the new product which they were introducing. Click here: http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-Listhttp://forums.matroni cs.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://www. matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.matronics.cofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forum======== = ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:10 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Peer Review of Schematic From: "Noah" nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect wrote: > At 10:08 PM 4/8/2010, you wrote: > When you post a customized power distribution diagram > it would be most helpful if you also include design > goals you expect to achieve that are over and above > what was published in the nearest Z-figure match. > > One presumes that some design goal deficiency is > perceived with an existing z-figure. This would prompt > development of a new configuration. Without knowing > what those deficiencies are, it's difficult if not > impossible to evaluate effectiveness of the new > configuration for meeting design goals. > > What drove the decision to use an SD-20 in lieu > of the lighter and much less expensive SD-8? > > Bob . . . Bob, didn't we already hash these questions out? http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=288883#288883 -------- Highest Regards, Noah Forden RV-7A Rhode Island Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293688#293688 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:31 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Peer Review of Schematic From: "Noah" jonlaury wrote: > Noah, > > Thanks for posting your schematic. As you know, I'm doing something similar because Z-13, with an SD-8, does not meet the needs of my all electric plane with high Ebus loads. I opted for a 40a Alt over the SD-20 largely because of cost and a small weight penalty. > > Questions: > 1. Why the HE sensor and the shunt for the SD-20? > 2. Part # for the HE sensor? > 3. What kind of device is "Midi 30"? > 4. "AFS"? > > Thanks, > John > Glasair IIS-TD Thanks for the questions John. 1. The Hall Effect Sensor on the SD-20 B-Lead is actually part of the SB1B regulator kit. With this regulator, the alternator is only brought to life if the bus voltage falls to around 13V (main alternator failed/offline). The HE sensor will trigger the regulator to continuously flash the annunciator light if B-Lead current exceeds 20A, signaling to the pilot to reduce load. If B-Lead current is below 20A, the annunciator will remain steady-lit. The second current sensor on the B-Lead goes to the Advanced Flight Systems (AFS) to indicate current load to the pilot, which can not be determined via the HE sensor on the regulator (unless all you want to know is whether B-Lead load is 20A). 2. Part of SB1B-14 kit. 3. Midi 30 fuses: http://www.littelfuse.com/data/en/Data_Sheets/498.pdf I like these fuseblocks since they are rugged and covered for protection. And McMaster-Carr sells the fuseblocks, P/N 9180K6. 4. Advanced Flight Systems - EFIS/Engine Monitor. -------- Highest Regards, Noah Forden RV-7A Rhode Island Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293692#293692 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:44 PM PST US From: Speedy11@aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: Lithium backup power Bob, You've probably already heard about this. Any comments? The huge advancements in lithium battery technology that have improved consumer products ranging from cell phones and laptop computers to electric cars will soon arrive in aircraft. Mid-Continent Instruments recently certified an emergency power supply known as the MD835, which is designed to keep electric attitude indicators and other critical avionics working when the aircraft systems that power them fail. 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