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1. 02:04 AM - Re: Small thumb-drives needed (Peter Mather)
2. 04:42 AM - The state of the industry (glen matejcek)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Small thumb-drives needed (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 05:57 AM - Re: The state of the industry (BobsV35B@aol.com)
5. 06:06 AM - Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 06:12 AM - Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off (Ed Anderson)
7. 06:55 AM - Re: Small thumb-drives needed (RGent1224@aol.com)
8. 08:53 AM - Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off (jonlaury)
9. 10:09 AM - Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
10. 11:35 AM - Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 02:34 PM - Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off (The Kuffels)
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Subject: | Re: Small thumb-drives needed |
Bob
A USB card reader would allow you to use CF cards etc as well
Regards
Peter
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From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Small thumb-drives needed
> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>
> At 04:50 PM 5/25/2010, you wrote:
>><nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>
> Thanks to the folks who responded to my plea. We've got
> the mission covered.
>
> When I bought that system, a 512Mb was a pretty big
> memory stick . . . and the folks who designed it into
> the system probably didn't anticipate that they
> would become obsolete and hard to find so soon!
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
>
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Subject: | The state of the industry |
AMEN.
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Whither Aviation OFF TOPIC
>
> Now to the point:
> I suggest you dial in "Flying Cheap" on PBS - I watched an article
> on typing "PBS Buffalo - flying cheap" into Google. Perhaps there are
better
> ways unknown to me. The title is typically bad grammar, but the content is
> revealing.
Do not archiv
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Subject: | Re: Small thumb-drives needed |
At 04:02 AM 5/27/2010, you wrote:
>
>Bob
>
>A USB card reader would allow you to use CF cards etc as well
Sure. But small flash cards are equally hard to
find! Nobody wants less than a couple of gigs any
more. But one of my handiest digital cameras chokes on
a 2gig card. The MP3 player in my car chokes on a 4gig
card. That technology seems to have exploded much
faster than the designers of flash based appliances
anticipated.
Bob
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Subject: | Re: The state of the industry |
Good Morning glen,
Yes this IS way off topic, but I will make a comment anyway. <G>
I agree with both sides of this argument.
The vast majority of our young and new aviators are competent serious
students of the art and it is a very safe mode of transportation.
However there are a few that slip through the cracks.
The low pay, lousy working conditions, and lack of respect afforded to
professional pilots certainly does not promote improvement.
The current level of safety was obtained during the days when a pilot could
expect to stay with one carrier for an entire career. There was a strong
union that worked hard to address safety issues and to maintain
professional standards. The pay and working conditions were definitely secondary
goals.
The atmosphere was such that those who made the various cuts worked hard to
maintain the overall level of proficiency.
And cuts there were!
We often talk about folks "washing out" of military training. That term is
rarely used in civilian life.
At least ninety percent of our pilots were military trained and that
evaluation philosophy was carried over into civilian flying. It was not just
the instructors and evaluators that made decisions on who stayed and who went
on to other endeavors, it was the pilots on the line who trained and
evaluated the newcomers.
There were twenty-eight highly qualified pilots in my new hire class. Seven
of those left the group during our six week training course. That was
about average. Some classes had as many as half leave the program. I don't
know of any class when all participants were accepted.
All pilots were subject to very strict scrutiny for the first year. Anyone
could be released for any reason. Out of the twenty-one that made it
through training school, another five of my class left during that first year.
Captains were required to file a report on every copilot that flew with them
until the copilot had three years on the line.
There was no recourse for those who were released during the first year.
After three years of flying copilot, each pilot was sent to captain
upgrading. It had nothing to do with actually flying as captain, it was strictly
an evaluation point in his (There were no females involved!) career. While
the applicant did get an ATP and a type rating from the course, the more
serious part was the evaluation by a board of senior pilots as to whether or
not the applicant would make a good captain.
If the applicant was marginal, but showed promise, he would be sent back to
the line for a six month period and assigned to fly with captains who were
felt to have the knack of bringing out the best in young aviators. A
second chance at "Captain Upgrading" was then given.
The result was that at the end of four years, a pilot had been pretty
heavily monitored, knew that he had the capabilities needed, and had gained the
respect of his peers.
The lack of stability and the idea that full evaluation is made by the
check pilots and not by the line pilots has been a negative factor that has led
to what we now see. Folks slip through the cracks who would have been
weeded out in the more stable environment of yesteryear
The idea that any set of rules will make a difference is ridiculous. It is
a stable environment combined with constant peer evaluation that makes the
very best aviator.
Requiring a minimum amount of flying time is a typical bureaucratic answer
that makes for a good sound bite but has no validity at all. Some of our
early washouts were very high time pilots and some of our very best long term
aviators had only a couple hundred hours when they first sat in that right
seat.
It is the attitude that counts the most!
I sure DO NOT have an answer, but I think we aviators need to be the ones
who make the decisions, not a bunch of ivory tower sideliners.
Flame away at will my friends, but that is the way I see it!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
(soloed 64 years ago this month)
Do Not Archive
In a message dated 5/27/2010 6:44:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
aerobubba@earthlink.net writes:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "glen matejcek"
<aerobubba@earthlink.net>
AMEN.
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Whither Aviation OFF TOPIC
>
> Now to the point:
> I suggest you dial in "Flying Cheap" on PBS - I watched an article
> on typing "PBS Buffalo - flying cheap" into Google. Perhaps there are
better
> ways unknown to me. The title is typically bad grammar, but the content
is
> revealing.
Do not archiv
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Subject: | Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off |
At 11:43 PM 5/26/2010, you wrote:
><rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
>Hi group.
>
>Working on our gear warning system that needs to address needs for
>both powered flight and soaring flight we have design one that does
>pretty good.
>
>However we need a devise that can silence horn for approx. two
>minutes. In other words by switching a momentary switch power to
>horn will be killed for two minutes.
>
>Needs to be able to handle 500 mA @ 14.4 volts.
>
>Something small and reliable like a delayed off relay, or??
>
>Any ideas, and where to purchase would be appreciated.
>
>Thx.
>Ron Parigoris
You can build such a timer from Radio Shack parts.
What kind of 'horn' are we talking about. Solid
state, piezo electric or an electro-mechanical
buzzer?
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Any ideas on two minute delayed off |
Go to Google and typing in "555 timer relay" - you will find a lot of
circuits that would give you what you want and some units and kits as well.
Here's a couple of examples
http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/relaytim.asp
http://www.hobbytron.net/R-UT-5.html
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
http://www.flyrotary.com/
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm
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rparigoris
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:44 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Any ideas on two minute delayed off
<rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Hi group.
Working on our gear warning system that needs to address needs for both
powered flight and soaring flight we have design one that does pretty good.
However we need a devise that can silence horn for approx. two minutes. In
other words by switching a momentary switch power to horn will be killed for
two minutes.
Needs to be able to handle 500 mA @ 14.4 volts.
Something small and reliable like a delayed off relay, or??
Any ideas, and where to purchase would be appreciated.
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299015#299015
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Subject: | Re: Small thumb-drives needed |
Here's the place to go
_http://www.flash-memory-store.com/64mb-secure-digital.html_
(http://www.flash-memory-store.com/64mb-secure-digital.html)
64mb and up
Dick
In a message dated 5/27/2010 7:57:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com writes:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
At 04:02 AM 5/27/2010, you wrote:
>
>Bob
>
>A USB card reader would allow you to use CF cards etc as well
Sure. But small flash cards are equally hard to
find! Nobody wants less than a couple of gigs any
more. But one of my handiest digital cameras chokes on
a 2gig card. The MP3 player in my car chokes on a 4gig
card. That technology seems to have exploded much
faster than the designers of flash based appliances
anticipated.
Bob
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Subject: | Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off |
I've dealt with Carl's hobbies and they are first rate for service and suppport.
I had to build a timer for another project and used the one in this link. I
built it from a kit (educational and fun) or you can buy it assembled. This one
has a toggle feature that seems like it would do what you want.
http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm?gclid=CNPA94rj2o4CFRcIYgodoEizAA
John
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off |
Hi Bob
"You can build such a timer from Radio Shack
parts. What kind of 'horn' are we talking about. Solid state,
piezo electric or an electro-mechanical buzzer?"
LOUD piezo. I was hoping to get away simple with something like an off
the shelf reed switch/relayunit? Or perhaps 555 route is best?
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off |
At 12:05 PM 5/27/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Bob
>
>"You can build such a timer from Radio Shack parts. What kind of
>'horn' are we talking about. Solid state, piezo electric or an
>electro-mechanical buzzer?"
>
>LOUD piezo. I was hoping to get away simple with something like an
>off the shelf reed switch/relay unit? Or perhaps 555 route is best?
Yeah, simple SHORT delays are possible with some
rudimentary circuits using relays . . . but when
you need LONG delays, some electronics is in order.
Suggest:
http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Schematics/Piezo_Horn_Silence-Timer.pdf
You can try an aluminum electrolytic in the time delay
slot and see if it works well enough for you. A
tantalum per number suggested works best but they're
a bit pricy.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: Any ideas on two minute delayed off |
The Carl's Electronics CANCK158 universal start stop timer kit has all the
pieces you need including the relay and push button.
See:
http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/timers/canck158.htm
At $15.95 for the kit ($18.95 assembled) it would be hard to find a better,
less expensive solution. Just run your buzzer wire through the Normally
Closed branch of the relay.
Tom Kuffel
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