AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Sun 06/13/10


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:03 AM - Seeing Matronics List Attachments ()
     2. 05:43 AM - LED light strips (ROGER & JEAN CURTIS)
     3. 06:07 AM - Re: Seeing Matronics List Attachments (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 06:36 AM - Re: Seeing Matronics List Attachments (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     5. 06:40 AM - Welding Cable for Battery Leads. (AVick)
     6. 06:46 AM - Re: Picture format for posting (paul wilson)
     7. 06:50 AM - Re: Panel Labeling (Greenbacks, UnLtd.)
     8. 06:50 AM - Re: Panel Labeling (Greenbacks, UnLtd.)
     9. 07:21 AM - Re: Welding Cable for Battery Leads. (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    10. 11:32 AM - Shop aid: Temporary table/shelf space (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    11. 12:19 PM - Re: Shop aid: Temporary table/shelf space (Richard Girard)
    12. 12:30 PM - Re: Shop aid: Temporary table/shelf space (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    13. 02:02 PM - Re: Welding Cable for Battery Leads. (Charlie England)
    14. 03:00 PM - Welding Cable for fat wires (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    15. 06:50 PM - Rotax 914 internal generator (rparigoris)
    16. 09:44 PM - Re: labeling panel (jonlaury)
    17. 09:52 PM - Re: labeling panel (jonlaury)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:03:18 AM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Seeing Matronics List Attachments
    6/13/2010 Hello Keith, Here is how I looked at your jpg attachment of the Blown fuse annunciator circuit: 1) Note the subject matter of the email posting that has the attachment you desire to see. 2) Go to the aeroelectric list navigator site by clicking on the URL at the end of each list digest: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator/?AeroElectric-List 3) Click on the BBS forums URL: http://forums.matronics.com/ 4) Scroll down to the appropriate list -- in this case aeroelectric, and click on it: http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=b2280214d4829c9f10f3ad00ea4de9d3 5) Scroll further down to the subject postings. If one of the series of postings on the subject contains an attachment the subject listing should have a little paper clip icon indicating that some where in the series of postings on that subject there is an attachment: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71859 6) Scroll further down to the end of the posting with the attachment and voila! there should be the attachment in all its visible glory. Please let me know how you make out. 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to gather and understand knowledge." PS: There is sort of a gotcha. I posted a jpg picture on the KIS list (see here I hope): http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71560 and the picture posted just fine except that its layout on the forum was so huge such that one had to scroll all over the place to find the area of interest. ================================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Burris" <klburris@frontiernet.net> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:54 PM Subject: RE: Blown fuse annunciator circuit > OC; > I really hate to sound so incredibly dense, but could you tell me where > you > saw my uploaded jpg file at? I've looked all over matronics and have not > been able to find it. So much for easy photo share :( > -- Keith ========================================================= > > 6/12/2010 > > Hello Keith, You wrote: "This will also be a test of how easy, hard, > simple, > etc of uploading > attachments" > > Your jpg attachment was there on BBS, but it was just all gray -- no > discernable picture. > > 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort > to > gather and understand knowledge." > > ============================================================ > > Time: 04:24:50 PM PST US > From: "Keith Burris" <klburris@frontiernet.net> > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Blown fuse annunciator circuit > > > Bob and all; > I have uploaded a picture of an idea I have for a blown fuse annunciating > circuit. The circuit would have to be duplicated for each fuse monitored. > It > was uploaded at 5PM MDT on 6-11, so it may or may not be there when you > read > this. Id like for someone to tell me if Im on the right track here or > completely out in left field. The idea is that the light would stay on as > long as the fuse is blown, regardless of which position the equipment > power > switch is in. All comments welcome. Thanks in advance. > > P.S. This will also be a test of how easy, hard, simple, etc of uploading > attachments > > -- Keith


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    Time: 05:43:29 AM PST US
    From: "ROGER & JEAN CURTIS" <mrspudandcompany@verizon.net>
    Subject: LED light strips
    >Sounds like I'm okay. I just need to figure out where to mount the >resistor so the heat isn't an issue. Rather than use a resistor, I would cut the strip in half, as the manufacturer suggests, and put the 2 strips in series. This way you need no resistor and you can run it on 24V. See attached sketch. Roger


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    Time: 06:07:28 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Seeing Matronics List Attachments
    At 06:55 AM 6/13/2010, you wrote: > >6/13/2010 > >PS: There is sort of a gotcha. I posted a jpg picture on the KIS >list (see here I hope): > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71560 > >and the picture posted just fine except that its layout on the forum >was so huge such that one had to scroll all over the place to find >the area of interest. This is something of a conundrum when posting pictures. Even the most inexpensive of modern cameras are capable of imaging and recording in great detail with some pictures being as much as 3000 pixels wide. Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:36:55 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Seeing Matronics List Attachments
    At 06:55 AM 6/13/2010, you wrote: > >6/13/2010 > >Hello Keith, Here is how I looked at your jpg >attachment of the Blown fuse annunciator circuit: > >PS: There is sort of a gotcha. I posted a jpg >picture on the KIS list (see here I hope): > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71560 > >and the picture posted just fine except that its >layout on the forum was so huge such that one >had to scroll all over the place to find the area of interest. This is something of a conundrum in that not everyone's computer will handle viewing of a downloaded image exactly the same way. It depends on your default image viewing application in addition to defaults set up within that application. I don't even remember what the defaults are on this computer, I set them up years ago and promptly ignored/forgot them. Even the inexpensive cameras are capable of imaging and recording in great detail with pictures upwards of 3000 pixels in width. Bob's uploaded image was 2,304px 1,728 pixels. The first blush presentation on my computer did indeed produce an image that ran off the screen in both height and width. But in my case, a right-click on the image produced a pull-down where "view image" is an option. Selecting that option zoomed out on the image so that it fit the screen. You can also right-click images and tell your computer to save them to hard drive. After they reside on your own hardware, you can open them with any other application for viewing, resizing, editing, etc. Unless I'm posting an image that contains detail best viewed in the camera's raw output, I try to re-scale the pictures to 1024 pixels wide so that they fit the native settings for most folks computers . . . but even that's not a 100% sure thing for everyone's viewing convenience. By the way, adding those nifty air flow control features at the wing roots is reminiscent of an effort to improve the handling qualities of a Cessna 303 Clipper/Crusader. http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=155 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_303 I recall a presentation given by a Cessna test pilot at some dinner-with-a-tech-talk. He showed us video of the 303 flying on the single critical engine at some breath-taking low speed doing maneuvers that approached aileron-rolls. This became possible only after much study and some tweaking that included airflow fences at the wing roots. This insured maintenance of pitch control under conditions that no pilot with a family would routinely venture into. Except of course, THAT test pilot! Neat stuff that aerodynamics. Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:40:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Welding Cable for Battery Leads.
    From: "AVick" <ajvick49@gmail.com>
    I see other post that approves the use of welding cable for the main battery feeds to the contractor and starter etc. My question is if we are being careful to use Tefzel for all our wire to reduce the chance of smoke in the cockpit why would you change that for the main power feeds? Is it easier to work with than 4 ga Tefzel, that is more flexible? I am planning on using the welding cable because it is local and cheaper. But have that concern I would like to address on the safety issue. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301062#301062


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    Time: 06:46:32 AM PST US
    From: paul wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
    Subject: Re: Picture format for posting
    Oversized pics are a constant issue and most people just delete them since it is so hard to view them. For PC users Microsoft has the tool for resizing a picture. Find the download on the right . http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx To use the tool click on properties of the pic and choose small or medium and get an new file for posting. It would be nice if everyone used the tool. Regards, Paul ============== ><nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> > >At 06:55 AM 6/13/2010, you wrote: >> >>6/13/2010 >> >>PS: There is sort of a gotcha. I posted a jpg picture on the KIS >>list (see here I hope): >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71560 >> >>and the picture posted just fine except that its layout on the >>forum was so huge such that one had to scroll all over the place to >>find the area of interest. > > This is something of a conundrum when posting pictures. > Even the most inexpensive of modern cameras are capable > of imaging and recording in great detail with some pictures > being as much as 3000 pixels wide. > > Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:50:31 AM PST US
    From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." <N4ZQ@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Panel Labeling
    I agree with Dick and would highly recommend Pulsar. Angier Ames On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:55 AM, AeroElectric-List Digest Server wrote: > Time: 11:54:20 AM PST US > From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: labeling panel > > > Check out http://www.pulsarprofx.com/ > > You do need to find a heat sealer (or buy the one they sell), but the > results are as good as they claim. I did my panels with this and it > came out great! There is s bit of a learning curve at the start, but > the kit provides plenty of material. I did use a clear overcoat for > additional durability, but it is not necessary in areas of minimum > exposure - near switches, yes; general labeling on the main panel, not > really. > > Dick Tasker


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    Time: 06:50:31 AM PST US
    From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." <N4ZQ@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Panel Labeling
    I agree with Dick and would highly recommend Pulsar. Angier Ames On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:55 AM, AeroElectric-List Digest Server wrote: > Time: 11:54:20 AM PST US > From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: labeling panel > > > Check out http://www.pulsarprofx.com/ > > You do need to find a heat sealer (or buy the one they sell), but the > results are as good as they claim. I did my panels with this and it > came out great! There is s bit of a learning curve at the start, but > the kit provides plenty of material. I did use a clear overcoat for > additional durability, but it is not necessary in areas of minimum > exposure - near switches, yes; general labeling on the main panel, not > really. > > Dick Tasker


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    Time: 07:21:40 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Welding Cable for Battery Leads.
    At 08:37 AM 6/13/2010, you wrote: I see other post that approves . . . The operative word is "suggests". . . . the use of welding cable for the main battery feeds to the contractor and starter etc. My question is if we are being careful to use Tefzel for all our wire to reduce the chance of smoke in the cockpit why would you change that for the main power feeds? Is it easier to work with than 4 ga Tefzel, that is more flexible? Why not 4AWG welding cable which is more flexible yet? I am planning on using the welding cable because it is local and cheaper. But have that concern I would like to address on the safety issue. Just for grins, take a piece of 22AWG Tefzel wire about 2 feet long, strip both ends about 1/2", and grab the bared ends in a two pairs of pliers. Now stob the pliers to the terminals of your car battery. Observe whether or not Tefzel wire "does not smoke". Take a little whiff of the gray-stuff wafting away in the air . . . is it something to which one might wish to become addicted? My point is that there is no such thing as a wire insulation that (1) doesn't smoke or (2) produces a smoke that does not produce severe discomfort in the cockpit. Of course those-who-know-more-about-airplanes- than-we-do are ever more willing to "approve" or "disapprove" our selection of materials all in the name of the "greater good". Bottom line is that safety comes from not having the wire smoke in the first place which has to do more with architecture and materials. I.e. installation of fuses and breakers. And installation techniques, I.e, don't let wires rub on sharp sheet metal edges. Beyond this, insulation selection is driven by considerations for durability in service. Welding cable is designed to lay on gravel roads and be run over by dump trucks dripping oil. They'll be just fine under the floorboards of your flying fliver. Risk is managed more by what YOU DO than by what YOU BUY. Bob . . .


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    Time: 11:32:51 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Shop aid: Temporary table/shelf space
    When building an airplane, there never seems to be enough table space for laying out inventory and tools for easy access. I've constructed a number of these critters over the years: http://tinyurl.com/24nxhqs They're built of cheap materials and not painted to minimize acquisition $time$. They go together in about 30 minutes for under $20. Has the same footprint as a standard 6-foot folding table but holds 50% more stuff. Knocks down to store. I use them for garage sales too. I sell the table at the sale for $30 to avoid storing them. They've got a lot of utility when temporary table/shelf space is needed. Got a batch of 6 under construction for Dr. Dee's "Mother of all Garage Sales" coming up in a couple weeks. Thought you folks might find them as practical/useful as I have. Bob . . .


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    Time: 12:19:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Shop aid: Temporary table/shelf space
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Where is the garage sale going to be, Bob, Medicine Lodge or Benton? Rick On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > When building an airplane, there never seems to be enough > table space for laying out inventory and tools for easy > access. I've constructed a number of these critters > over the years: > > * http://tinyurl.com/24nxhqs* > > They're built of cheap materials and not painted > to minimize acquisition $time$. They go together > in about 30 minutes for under $20. Has the same > footprint as a standard 6-foot folding table but > holds 50% more stuff. Knocks down to store. I use > them for garage sales too. I sell the table at > the sale for $30 to avoid storing them. They've > got a lot of utility when temporary table/shelf > space is needed. Got a batch of 6 under construction > for Dr. Dee's "Mother of all Garage Sales" coming up > in a couple weeks. Thought you folks might find > them as practical/useful as I have. > > > Bob . . . > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 12:30:59 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Shop aid: Temporary table/shelf space
    At 02:16 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote: >Where is the garage sale going to be, Bob, Medicine Lodge or Benton? > >Rick Wichita. We've got about 5 households of "over-stuff" left over from the great migration that we'll be offering from our old digs on Bainbridge. Bob . . .


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    Time: 02:02:35 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Welding Cable for Battery Leads.
    On 6/13/2010 9:24 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> > > > At 08:37 AM 6/13/2010, you wrote: > > I see other post that approves . . . > > The operative word is "suggests". > > . . . the use of welding cable for the main battery feeds to the > contractor and starter etc. My question is if we are being careful to > use Tefzel for all our wire to reduce the chance of smoke in the > cockpit why would you change that for the main power feeds? Is it > easier to work with than 4 ga Tefzel, that is more flexible? > > Why not 4AWG welding cable which is more flexible > yet? > > I am planning on using the welding cable because it is local and > cheaper. But have that concern I would like to address on the safety > issue. > > Just for grins, take a piece of 22AWG Tefzel wire about > 2 feet long, strip both ends about 1/2", and grab > the bared ends in a two pairs of pliers. Now stob > the pliers to the terminals of your car battery. > > Observe whether or not Tefzel wire "does not > smoke". Take a little whiff of the gray-stuff > wafting away in the air . . . is it something > to which one might wish to become addicted? > > My point is that there is no such thing as > a wire insulation that (1) doesn't smoke > or (2) produces a smoke that does not produce > severe discomfort in the cockpit. > > Of course those-who-know-more-about-airplanes- > than-we-do are ever more willing to "approve" > or "disapprove" our selection of materials all > in the name of the "greater good". > > Bottom line is that safety comes from not having > the wire smoke in the first place which has to > do more with architecture and materials. I.e. > installation of fuses and breakers. And > installation techniques, I.e, don't let wires > rub on sharp sheet metal edges. > > Beyond this, insulation selection is driven > by considerations for durability in service. > Welding cable is designed to lay on gravel > roads and be run over by dump trucks dripping > oil. They'll be just fine under the floorboards > of your flying fliver. > > Risk is managed more by what YOU DO than by > what YOU BUY. > > > Bob . . . And, if I may piggy back on this, the fact that it is more flexible means that a less than perfect installation is less likely to cause fatigued connections (or even fatigued wire). Charlie


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    Time: 03:00:21 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Welding Cable for fat wires
    At 04:00 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote: <ceengland@bellsouth.net> And, if I may piggy back on this, the fact that it is more flexible means that a less than perfect installation is less likely to cause fatigued connections (or even fatigued wire). Charlie Absolutely! The wire is DESIGNED for flexibility being crafted from copper cat hair . . . http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Wire/4AWG_Welding_Cable_1.jpg . . . which means that it is fundamentally less suited to stressing terminals by virtue of it's role as a Class 2 lever. It's difficult to apply a force by means of a soggy noodle. Some of the earliest experiences with SVLA battery failure manifested as a fracturing of the lead terminal-posts just at the top of the case seal . . . Emacs! Root cause turned out to be 2AWG Tefzel battery jumpers transmitting considerable stress to the posts under vibration. Converting to welding cable jumpers fixed the problem. However, this doesn't negate the need for support immediately adjacent to crimped or soldered joints where the wire transitions from very flexible to very inflexible. Thanks for reminding me Charlie. Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:50:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Rotax 914 internal generator
    From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Hi group I am using Eris Jones Linear Over-Voltage Protector to control my Rotax 914 internal generator through a 75 amp automotive relay. At moment I have relay on my schematic downstream of the Ducati regulator. If regulator fails and there is in fact a runaway over volt event, true the L OVP device will disconnect it from my electrical system, but the generator will still be outputting. Do you think I would be better off moving the relay that is controlled by the L OVP to be in series with one of the generators yellow output wires? Here is my schematic with relay downstream of Ducati regulator: http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId372&g2_imageViewsIndex=0 Please click drop down to get higher resolution of 2592 x 1944. Thanking you in advance. Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301112#301112


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    Time: 09:44:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: labeling panel
    From: "jonlaury" <jonlaury@impulse.net>
    Jim, I used the HiRes screens. I don't think there is a specific hi-res paint. The resolution is a function of the # of threads/inch in the warp and weft of the screen. John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301122#301122


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    Time: 09:52:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: labeling panel
    From: "jonlaury" <jonlaury@impulse.net>
    Bill Bradbury, Thanks for the heads-up re Avery sticky back sheets. I'm doing essentially the same thing through a graphics shop, but if that ends up going in the trash, then I'll try Avery next. Ink jet isn't as color fast as laser toner, but with a couple of clear coats, the effects of UV should be somewhat diminished. But the color fade was a concern and solvent based inks are more color fast than water based (ink jet) ink, so for $10 I gave it a shot. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301124#301124




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