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1. 11:02 AM - Re: Redundant Power switching (jonlaury)
2. 11:12 AM - Electrical System Schematic Review (jonlaury)
3. 11:43 AM - Re: Electrical System Schematic Review (Richard Tasker)
4. 11:47 AM - Looking for a do-hicky thingy ()
5. 12:03 PM - Re: Electrical System Schematic Review (jonlaury)
6. 12:09 PM - Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy (Ron Raby)
7. 12:17 PM - Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy (Ron Quillin)
8. 12:21 PM - Corrected Electrical Schematic for Review (jonlaury)
9. 12:35 PM - Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy (Charlie England)
10. 12:35 PM - Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy ()
11. 12:39 PM - Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy ()
12. 12:57 PM - Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy (Richard Tasker)
13. 02:46 PM - test (Steve Hamer)
14. 03:39 PM - Re: test (F. Tim Yoder)
15. 08:09 PM - Re: Electrical Noise Prevention (messydeer)
16. 08:19 PM - Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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Subject: | Re: Redundant Power switching |
Dick and Joe, thanks for your input.
Dick, I will have two switches. The plan is to use the DPST to switch legs of 6-7A
and 2A. One switch is a Honeywell AML 34, rated at 125v/15a @ 60% power factor.
The back-up is a Honeywell AML 31, 125v/10a @ 60% In a similar chart for
another switch, Honeywell specifies "Resistive", along with % power factor so
I'm assuming that the %power factor is for inductive loads. The 6-7 A load is
for electronic fuel injectors which I believe are solenoids and hence, inductive
loads.
Joe, I didn't quite follow how the loads on the switch legs are additive. Each
pole/switch is separate from the other in the switch and are fed from fuses on
separate buses.
J
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Subject: | Electrical System Schematic Review |
I would appreciate anyone's comments on my electrical schematic.
I'm unsure about the placement of the over voltage module for the Ground Power
jack. I used a single post continuous duty contactor which I had and it necessitated
some changes in Bob's Z-31 drawing.
Thanks
John
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Subject: | Re: Electrical System Schematic Review |
For some reason I can only see page two of the PDF - cutting off some
portion to the left of the main battery bus on your schematic. Page one
is blank.
Dick Tasker
jonlaury wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "jonlaury"<jonlaury@impulse.net>
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> I would appreciate anyone's comments on my electrical schematic.
> I'm unsure about the placement of the over voltage module for the Ground Power
jack. I used a single post continuous duty contactor which I had and it necessitated
some changes in Bob's Z-31 drawing.
>
> Thanks
> John
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305607#305607
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Subject: | Looking for a do-hicky thingy |
I'm having trouble getting a reading from Klaus's Plasma III box (RPM
pulse) to my Dynon. Either Klaus or Dynon is telling me fish stories.
I'm looking for a gadget that fits as a pass through to a DB15 connector
and has stubs or leads off the side so it would allow me to test values
passing through DB15 the connector.
This sounds reasonable but I have no idea if such things exist?
Any ideas on where I might find something like this?
If they do exist, what are they called?
Thanks,
Glenn
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Subject: | Re: Electrical System Schematic Review |
I know what happened. I'll put it up again.
J
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy |
How about a jumper cable where you crimp two wires to each pin. Then you
could take the extra wires out to a test plug.
Regards
Ron Raby
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From: longg@pjm.com
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:46 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Looking for a do-hicky thingy
I'm having trouble getting a reading from Klaus's Plasma III box (RPM
pulse) to my Dynon. Either Klaus or Dynon is telling me fish stories.
I'm looking for a gadget that fits as a pass through to a DB15
connector and has stubs or leads off the side so it would allow me to
test values passing through DB15 the connector.
This sounds reasonable but I have no idea if such things exist?
Any ideas on where I might find something like this?
If they do exist, what are they called?
Thanks,
Glenn
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy |
The fancy version, for those with more $$$ than time
http://www.breakoutboxes.com/
At 11:46 7/20/2010, you wrote:
>I'm looking for a gadget that fits as a pass through to a DB15
>connector and has stubs or leads off the side so it would allow me
>to test values passing through DB15 the connector.
>
> This sounds reasonable but I have no idea if such things exist?
>
> Any ideas on where I might find something like this?
>
> If they do exist, what are they called?
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Subject: | Corrected Electrical Schematic for Review |
The complete schematic is on page 1.
Disregard page 2.
There's some glitch in my TurboCad v. 11 that makes a truncated page 2 when saving
files as .pdf
John
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy |
On 7/20/2010 1:46 PM, longg@pjm.com wrote:
>
> Im having trouble getting a reading from Klauss Plasma III box (RPM
> pulse) to my Dynon. Either Klaus or Dynon is telling me fish stories.
>
> Im looking for a gadget that fits as a pass through to a DB15
> connector and has stubs or leads off the side so it would allow me to
> test values passing through DB15 the connector.
>
> This sounds reasonable but I have no idea if such things exist?
>
> Any ideas on where I might find something like this?
>
> If they do exist, what are they called?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glenn
>
Google 'inline db15 breakout connector'.
1st one I hit on was:
http://www.winfordeng.com/products/brk15mf.php
If you do a bit more digging (try Black Box), you can probably find one
that is just 3 dB connectors back to back to side, allowing insertion
in-line with existing cables/chassis and giving you probe access on the
3rd connector
Charlie
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Subject: | Looking for a do-hicky thingy |
Thanks Ron,
Yeah, that's a pain 'cause Klaus has those wires shrunk in there tighter
than you know what...
Today I learned something from one of our subscribers. It's called a
Break Out Box.
http://device-connect.com/product/hdbreakout/hdbreakout.php
Glenn E. Long
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Raby
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Looking for a do-hicky thingy
How about a jumper cable where you crimp two wires to each pin. Then you
could take the extra wires out to a test plug.
Regards
Ron Raby
----- Original Message -----
From: longg@pjm.com
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:46 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Looking for a do-hicky thingy
I'm having trouble getting a reading from Klaus's Plasma III box (RPM
pulse) to my Dynon. Either Klaus or Dynon is telling me fish stories.
I'm looking for a gadget that fits as a pass through to a DB15
connector and has stubs or leads off the side so it would allow me to
test values passing through DB15 the connector.
This sounds reasonable but I have no idea if such things exist?
Any ideas on where I might find something like this?
If they do exist, what are they called?
Thanks,
Glenn
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Subject: | Looking for a do-hicky thingy |
Wow,
If I buy that I'll put Bob out of business. I don't what to go into the
business, just get an lousy RPM reading on my Dynon. I'll dig for either
used or a harbor freight something.
Do not archive
Glenn E. Long
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Quillin
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Looking for a do-hicky thingy
The fancy version, for those with more $$$ than time
http://www.breakoutboxes.com/
At 11:46 7/20/2010, you wrote:
I'm looking for a gadget that fits as a pass through to a DB15 connector
and has stubs or leads off the side so it would allow me to test values
passing through DB15 the connector.
This sounds reasonable but I have no idea if such things exist?
Any ideas on where I might find something like this?
If they do exist, what are they called?
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Subject: | Re: Looking for a do-hicky thingy |
http://www.winfordeng.com/products/brk15mf.php
http://www.bipom.com/products/us/3376564.html (which seems to be the
same as above)
These used to be readily available for troubleshooting RS232 cables but
I cannot seem to find any but those above.
As someone else mentioned, you can make your own with either solder or
crimp DB15 connectors by just including a second wire connected to each
DB15 interconnect wire.
Dick Tasker
longg@pjm.com wrote:
>
> I'm having trouble getting a reading from Klaus's Plasma III box (RPM
> pulse) to my Dynon. Either Klaus or Dynon is telling me fish stories.
>
> I'm looking for a gadget that fits as a pass through to a DB15
> connector and has stubs or leads off the side so it would allow me to
> test values passing through DB15 the connector.
>
> This sounds reasonable but I have no idea if such things exist?
>
> Any ideas on where I might find something like this?
>
> If they do exist, what are they called?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glenn
>
> *
>
>
> *
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test
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OK
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From: Steve Hamer
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:43 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: test
test
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Subject: | Re: Electrical Noise Prevention |
> Since you're not using a d-sub avionics ground, leave
> the 10AWG in place.
>
Goodie!
Another person told me they'd expect noise if the P-leads are in the same bundle
to the panel. That's how I've got them. But I don't have any audio system hooked
up yet. Those wires would cross the P-leads or at a right angle.
--------
Dan
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Subject: | Looking for a do-hicky thingy |
At 02:33 PM 7/20/2010, you wrote:
>
>Thanks Ron,
>
>Yeah, that's a pain 'cause Klaus has those wires shrunk in there tighter
>than you know what...
>
>Today I learned something from one of our subscribers. It's called a
>Break Out Box.
Yeah, I've got a fist full of those that have proven
handy in my business for over 50 years. When you're
working with low current D-sub signals, here's a little
trick . . .
http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Tools/Test_Equipment/Quck_n_Dirty_Breakout.jpg
A piece of ribbon cable and some munch-on connectors
can be assemble in a variety of useful combinations.
A M-F patch cable of appropriate length can be
'enhanced' with a female connector either between the
ends . . . or on a "flying tail". Last time I built
one of these was to look at some signals on a black-box
buried about 3' away from anyplace I could get access
to in flight.
I took a 4' piece of ribbon cable and munched the
M-F pair on one end about 4" apart. On the other
end, I put a female connector to serve as an array
of tiny "pin jacks" where ir proved easy to eavesdrop
on what was happening at the other end of the cable.
If I were in better shape for being unpacked and sorted
out, I could send you the break-out adapter shown in
the picture. If you can't get ribbon cable and connectors
locally, a friend of mine in Wichita could assemble one
for you from inventory (Lloyd's Electronics) and mail
it to you. The whole thing goes together in about 5 minutes
for about five dollars.
Bob . . .
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