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Sat 11/06/10


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:38 AM - Re: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 07:16 AM - Re: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection (paul wilson)
     3. 09:45 AM - Re: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 06:21 PM - instrument ground loops? (eb)
     5. 09:52 PM - Re: instrument ground loops? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     6. 10:57 PM - Re: instrument ground loops? (B Tomm)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:38:46 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection
    At 06:30 PM 11/5/2010, you wrote: >I am 1000 miles away from my shop, but I have a package of the new >style butt connectors in my truck. NAPA P/N 784331. They are reds >tranlucent plastic and have the extra metal extension. I use several >rachet crimpers and they all give a good result with these things. >Takes 2 crimps with my crimpers to grab theinsulation. >Branded by Balkamp (a NAPA house brand). Made In Taiwan > >The other stuff in my truck are the cheepe 3M automotive stuff you >are fanmiliar with and they will not grab the insulation. However >they do give the soild crimp like your AMP tests. >Mabe the attached pic will reveal something? Hmmm . . . are these normally stocked in the stores or do they have to order them in? Are they available in less than full box lots? Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:16:35 AM PST US
    From: paul wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection
    Stock item in Durango CO store. Stock from the Albuerque warehouse. Find then on the shelf. no need to ask at the desk. Paul ===== At 06:37 AM 11/6/2010, you wrote: ><nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> > >At 06:30 PM 11/5/2010, you wrote: >>I am 1000 miles away from my shop, but I have a package of the new >>style butt connectors in my truck. NAPA P/N 784331. They are reds >>tranlucent plastic and have the extra metal extension. I use >>several rachet crimpers and they all give a good result with these >>things. Takes 2 crimps with my crimpers to grab theinsulation. >>Branded by Balkamp (a NAPA house brand). Made In Taiwan >> >>The other stuff in my truck are the cheepe 3M automotive stuff you >>are fanmiliar with and they will not grab the insulation. However >>they do give the soild crimp like your AMP tests. >>Mabe the attached pic will reveal something? > > Hmmm . . . are these normally stocked in the stores > or do they have to order them in? Are they available > in less than full box lots? > > > Bob . . . > >


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    Time: 09:45:41 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection
    At 09:12 AM 11/6/2010, you wrote: > >Stock item in Durango CO store. Stock from the Albuerque warehouse. >Find then on the shelf. no need to ask at the desk. >Paul I'll see if I can pick some up. I'm going to Wichita tonight. Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:21:46 PM PST US
    Subject: instrument ground loops?
    From: "eb" <eb@civsoft.com>
    My radio, transponder and EFIS each have continuity between their respective ground wire and their external case--this is normal AFAIK. But each case is attached to an aluminum instrument panel, which is connected to a steel airframe. Can you say ground loops? (the instrument ground wires connect to a lug on the airframe). This creates 3 ground loops approximately 2' long each. Is this a problem--in terms of radio noise or interference? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318402#318402


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    Time: 09:52:23 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: instrument ground loops?
    At 08:17 PM 11/6/2010, you wrote: > >My radio, transponder and EFIS each have continuity between their >respective ground wire and their external case--this is normal >AFAIK. But each case is attached to an aluminum instrument panel, >which is connected to a steel airframe. Can you say ground >loops? (the instrument ground wires connect to a lug on the >airframe). This creates 3 ground loops approximately 2' long >each. Is this a problem--in terms of radio noise or interference? Not if you don't hear any noise. Just because there ARE multiple ground paths giving rise to potential coupling of noise between antagonist and victim doesn't automatically say it's going to happen . . . only that the risks are higher. The drawings that configure a legacy TC aircraft's ground wires many have been revised many times over the years to deal with specific issues . . . and there may still be potential issues. The best action right now is to commend you for being attentive to the risk which will give rise to closer scrutiny when you start firing things up. Chances are pretty good that you won't have any problems. If you DO, then there are orderly ways to deduce "death by Col. Mustard in the library with a knife". Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================


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    Time: 10:57:18 PM PST US
    From: "B Tomm" <fvalarm@rapidnet.net>
    Subject: instrument ground loops?
    Bob, Sort of related... My LR3C voltage regulator has surprisingly large mounting holes. 5/16 IIRC. Is this because there should be an isolation washer to prevent the bolts and case from touching the metal mounting surface? I don't have any bolts with such a large diameter and so short of grip length. I was considering drilling for #8 screws in between the factory holes until I saw this thread. Bevan RV7A -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 9:48 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: instrument ground loops? --> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> At 08:17 PM 11/6/2010, you wrote: > >My radio, transponder and EFIS each have continuity between their >respective ground wire and their external case--this is normal >AFAIK. But each case is attached to an aluminum instrument panel, >which is connected to a steel airframe. Can you say ground loops? >(the instrument ground wires connect to a lug on the airframe). This >creates 3 ground loops approximately 2' long each. Is this a >problem--in terms of radio noise or interference? Not if you don't hear any noise. Just because there ARE multiple ground paths giving rise to potential coupling of noise between antagonist and victim doesn't automatically say it's going to happen . . . only that the risks are higher. The drawings that configure a legacy TC aircraft's ground wires many have been revised many times over the years to deal with specific issues . . . and there may still be potential issues. The best action right now is to commend you for being attentive to the risk which will give rise to closer scrutiny when you start firing things up. Chances are pretty good that you won't have any problems. If you DO, then there are orderly ways to deduce "death by Col. Mustard in the library with a knife". Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================




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