AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Thu 01/20/11


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 04:42 AM - Re: ***SPAM*** Off topic -- Slowing an electric motor (bob-tcw)
     2. 06:38 AM - wiring thre phase power (Chris Hukill)
     3. 06:45 AM - Re: wiring thre phase power (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 07:54 AM - Re: Transponder Antenna (Speedy11@aol.com)
     5. 06:04 PM - Re: Robust transponder antennas (dgaldrich)
     6. 06:51 PM - DIY transponder antenna (Mike Welch)
     7. 07:54 PM - Re: DIY transponder antenna (Jim Wickert)
     8. 08:01 PM - Re: DIY transponder antenna (F. Tim Yoder)
     9. 08:38 PM - Re: DIY transponder antenna (Mike Welch)
    10. 10:37 PM - Re: DIY transponder antenna (Etienne Phillips)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:42:25 AM PST US
    From: "bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
    Subject: Re: Off topic -- Slowing an electric motor
    Dan, A PSC type motor can be safely slowed using a properly rated dimmer. These dimmers are specially designed for this type of motor and are NOT just lamp dimmers. Search for Lutron Fan Speed controls and look for the fully variable type, not the 3 or 4 speed preset type used for paddle fans. -Bob Newman ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan O'Brien To: AeroElectric-List@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:35 PM Subject: ***SPAM*** AeroElectric-List: Off topic -- Slowing an electric motor I built a wind tunnel for my son=92s physics project. Works great! The issue is that I would like to slow the fan down to generate airspeed below the Reynolds number of a dimpled golf ball. Current airspeed is about 58 mph. I need to slow the fan to generate airspeed below 30 mph. The motor is a permanent split capacitor type: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-Direct-Drive-Blower-Motor-7E658. Any thoughts on how to slow it down? I've read that slowing it with a dimmer might damage the motor. Thanks, Dan O=92Brien


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    Time: 06:38:41 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
    Subject: wiring thre phase power
    I am wiring a three phase vertical mill to a static converter (add a phase) from my 220vac single phase source. The motor is a reversible single speed. Does the order of the phases matter? The instruction with the mill are Chinese version of English (useless) and the instructions from the phase converter don't specify which leg goes where. I know this is slightly off topic, but the mill is going in my hangar to build airplane parts! Chris Hukill


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    Time: 06:45:25 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: wiring thre phase power
    At 09:28 AM 1/20/2011, you wrote: >I am wiring a three phase vertical mill to a static converter (add a >phase) from my 220vac single phase source. The motor is a reversible >single speed. Does the order of the phases matter? The instruction >with the mill are Chinese version of English (useless) and the >instructions from the phase converter don't specify which leg goes where. > >I know this is slightly off topic, but the mill is going in my >hangar to build airplane parts! Not critical for the initial start-up. But if the motor does not run the right direction when you turn it on, reverse any two leads. Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:54:45 AM PST US
    From: Speedy11@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Transponder Antenna
    Should you do that, we will be very interested in the dimensions. Stan In a message dated 1/20/2011 3:06:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, aeroelectric-list@matronics.com writes: I might be able to sift through the data and fabricate a test-article out of copper clad and sneak it into the test lab. Once the dimensions are known, there's probably a bunch of folks on the list that could carve some aluminum.


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    Time: 06:04:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Robust transponder antennas
    From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
    I believe the antenna design in question is an approach to getting a VERY broad range of frequency coverage (10-1) from a single antenna. Note also that it was designed to operate from 30 to 30,000 MHz and the ATC transponder frequency is a single one at 1090 Mhz. You certainly don't need the broad coverage and are almost certainly better off with a single blade or stub designed for 1090 MHz than this. The antennae on the B-52 needed to cover almost DC to light (400 khz to 30 GHz) and this design was very workable. Ex B-52 Pilot Dave Aldrich do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327736#327736


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    Time: 06:51:06 PM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: DIY transponder antenna
    List members=2C Would someone be kind enough to share a link or reference for a guy to make his own transponder antenna? Preferably=2C a site that lists the necessary materials=2C has some pictures=2C etc. I'm real close to the point where I need to think about installing the antenna for the transponder. Thanks=2C Mike Welch


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    Time: 07:54:22 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Wickert" <jimw_btg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: DIY transponder antenna
    Mike, On E-Bay you can purchase production built transponder antenna's for anywhere from $15 to $20 in AS page 548, pt.no. 11-17995, 2009 cat. they are $18.95..two ups shipments of pcs parts will be at least $12.00 to $18.00 alone. ????? Take care build where it counts. Jim Wickert Vision #159 "Vision Some Will Have IT Some Will Not". Tel 920-467-0219 Cell 920-912-1014 From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:47 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: DIY transponder antenna List members, Would someone be kind enough to share a link or reference for a guy to make his own transponder antenna? Preferably, a site that lists the necessary materials, has some pictures, etc. I'm real close to the point where I need to think about installing the antenna for the transponder. Thanks, Mike Welch


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    Time: 08:01:03 PM PST US
    From: "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
    Subject: Re: DIY transponder antenna
    Not much help, the simplest one I saw was made from an AN bolt of the proper length. I bet someone on the list will remember the source. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Welch To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:47 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: DIY transponder antenna List members, Would someone be kind enough to share a link or reference for a guy to make his own transponder antenna? Preferably, a site that lists the necessary materials, has some pictures, etc. I'm real close to the point where I need to think about installing the antenna for the transponder. Thanks, Mike Welch


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    Time: 08:38:52 PM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: DIY transponder antenna
    Hi Jim=2C I'm very familiar with the eBay ones=2C I just thought I could build my own for a couple of bucks=2C but since you suggested it=2C I might as well go ahead and get one of those off eBay. (I was seriously considering the eBay one=2C anyway) If no one else bids=2C I can buy it for $9.99. Add the $6 for the shippi ng and it comes in at $16 delivered. I have enough projects=2C I think I'll g o the easy route on this one=2C and buy one ready-made. Thanks for the responses=2C guys. Mike Welch From: jimw_btg@earthlink.net Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: DIY transponder antenna Mike=2C On E-Bay you can purchase production built transponder antenna=92s for anyw here from $15 to $20 in AS page 548=2C pt.no. 11-17995=2C 2009 cat. they a re $18.95=85.two ups shipments of pcs parts will be at least $12.00 to $18 .00 alone. ????? Take care build where it counts. Jim Wickert Vision #159 =93Vision Some Will Have IT Some Will Not=94. Tel 920-467-0219 Cell 920-912-1014 From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectr ic-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch Sent: Thursday=2C January 20=2C 2011 8:47 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: DIY transponder antenna List members=2C Would someone be kind enough to share a link or reference for a guy to make his own transponder antenna? Preferably=2C a site that lists the necessary materials=2C has some pictures=2C etc. I'm real close to the point where I need to think about installing the antenna for the transponder. Thanks=2C Mike Welch http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-Listhttp://foru ms.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 10:37:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: DIY transponder antenna
    From: Etienne Phillips <etienne.phillips@gmail.com>
    Hi Mike I built one out of a simple BNC panel mount connector (can't remember if it was male or female), with a piece of coat-hanger wire soldered into the crimping hole, all covered in red heatshrink with a ball of glue at the end to prevent bleeding. It took less than 10 mins to make and cost about $5. Here's an example BNC: http://za.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=6807361 I have an aluminium skin which acts as a nice ground-plane, and I've had no issues whatsoever with the transponder in 2 years of operation, at an airfield that makes you come back and land if your Mode C isn't working! I also know of one person that just strips the coax and lets the protruding inner core of the correct length dangle in the wind with the shield attached to the skin with a lug and bolt. It also works for him, although it terrifies me :-) Hope that helps! Etienne On 21 January 2011 06:27, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I'm very familiar with the eBay ones, I just thought I could build my > own for a couple of bucks, but since you suggested it, I might as well > go ahead and get one of those off eBay. (I was seriously considering > the eBay one, anyway) > > If no one else bids, I can buy it for $9.99. Add the $6 for the shipping > > and it comes in at $16 delivered. I have enough projects, I think I'll go > the easy > route on this one, and buy one ready-made. > > Thanks for the responses, guys. > > Mike Welch >




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