AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Wed 05/04/11


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:18 AM - Email from Mark Phillips (rayj)
     2. 03:57 AM - Honeywell switches (JOHN TIPTON)
     3. 05:38 AM - Re: Honeywell switches (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 06:18 AM - Re: Email from Mark Phillips (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     5. 06:53 AM - Re: Honeywell switches (JOHN TIPTON)
     6. 07:52 AM - Re: Email from Mark Phillips (Andrew Zachar)
     7. 02:45 PM - Harbor Freight Hydraulic Crimper (Richard Girard)
     8. 05:13 PM - Re: Harbor Freight Hydraulic Crimper (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     9. 05:24 PM - Re: Harbor Freight Hydraulic Crimper (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    10. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: EL lighting-wire causing noise (Ken)
    11. 06:14 PM - Re: Harbor Freight Hydraulic Crimper (Richard Girard)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:18:50 AM PST US
    From: rayj <raymondj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Email from Mark Phillips
    do not archive I just received a touching and heartfelt email from Mark Phillips that I wanted to share with list members that Mark didn't feel were as special. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 05/04/2011 01:13 AM, mark phillips wrote: > "When do I get my award fer being the least "succinct"? > > Bruce" > RIGHT AFTER YOU AND THE REST OF YOUR GANG GET THE "ASSHOLE OF THE YEAR" > AWARD. > Email is for communications, forums are for sharing information. Try > using your email account. I personally don't like scrolling through > your bullshit. ....and, yes - you are special. That's why you are > receiving this personal message. > Sincerely; > Mark Phillips > PS- Please forward this message to anyone I may have missed with my > regards.


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    Time: 03:57:42 AM PST US
    From: "JOHN TIPTON" <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Honeywell switches
    Hi Guys Can someone (Bob) please confirm that a Honeywell switch designated 2TL1-2G is 'locked' in the off position http://content.honeywell.com/sensing/prodinfo/manual/catalog/c30136.pdf Regards John


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    Time: 05:38:59 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Honeywell switches
    At 06:54 AM 5/4/2011, you wrote: ><jmtipton@btopenworld.com> > >Hi Guys > >Can someone (Bob) please confirm that a Honeywell switch designated >2TL1-2G is 'locked' in the off position > >http://content.honeywell.com/sensing/prodinfo/manual/catalog/c30136.pdf The "G" configuration is free to move between the mid and anti-keyway position but will fall into a locking detent if moved to the keyway side. Extraction from the keyway side requires the operator to pull up on the spring loaded cap before the switch can be moved. You will note that a "G" switch is the same as an "F" switch except that the locking detent is on the anti-keyway side. Referring to the 2-position order guide we see that the -2 switch is a 4-terminal device with no contacts closed when the handle is in the keyway position. So yes, it is locked-off. Now, you could order a -3, 6-terminal On-On switch. This configuration gives you the option of wiring for the locked position to be OFF, or some alternate ON function. Further, depending on supplier stock for the switch, you can use either a "F" or "G" locking configuration in a -3 switch by turing the switch over in the mounting hole. Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:18:53 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Email from Mark Phillips
    At 03:13 AM 5/4/2011, you wrote: > >do not archive > >I just received a touching and heartfelt email from Mark Phillips >that I wanted to share with list members that Mark didn't feel were as special. It's an unfortunate human shortcoming that the interpretation of spirit and intent for the written (and often the spoken) word can be so far off the mark. Another decidedly human characteristic is a willingness to be insulted . . . whether or not the speaker/writer is intending to be hurtful. Many of you will recall some years ago that a participant here on the list suggested that I was "too easily insulted" or some such. I had to remind him that he did not have my permission to be insulting. His words were either informative or constructively persuasive whereupon they were worthy of everyone's attention . . . or they were intended to bring discomfort in which case they could simply be discounted or ignored. In other words, it is up to the listener/ reader to decide how much intellectual/emotional capital is to be expended on the exposition of others. In retrospect, it was easy to see how the series of replies morphed from useful exchanges of information into sand and tomato throwing contests between individuals who made choices to be insulted. I am certain that this outcome was an unhappy surprise for Ferg. If Mark is still tracking the List, I would encourage him to take command of his capital accounts. Becoming a participant in hurtful exchanges (for correctly or incorrectly perceived reasons) is a tax on the soul . . . a tax that any of us in a state of individual and communal liberty can choose not to pay. We have useful and pleasurable business to conduct here on the List that is demanding of our time, talents and resources. Let us strive to make it an investment with a good return . . . as opposed to a tax. The key is simple . . . we can choose not to allow anyone to insult us. By so doing we avoid imposing any sort of political correctness upon List participants . . . which stultifies intelligent conversation. Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:53:38 AM PST US
    From: "JOHN TIPTON" <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Honeywell switches
    Thank you Bob: your views and knowledge in the answers you give is, as always received with gratitude John (over the pond - RV9a wings, looking forward to the eventual wiring) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:33 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Honeywell switches > <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> > > At 06:54 AM 5/4/2011, you wrote: >><jmtipton@btopenworld.com> >> >>Hi Guys >> >>Can someone (Bob) please confirm that a Honeywell switch designated >>2TL1-2G is 'locked' in the off position >> >>http://content.honeywell.com/sensing/prodinfo/manual/catalog/c30136.pdf > > The "G" configuration is free to move between the > mid and anti-keyway position but will fall into > a locking detent if moved to the keyway side. Extraction > from the keyway side requires the operator to pull > up on the spring loaded cap before the switch can > be moved. You will note that a "G" switch is the same > as an "F" switch except that the locking detent is > on the anti-keyway side. > > Referring to the 2-position order guide we see that > the -2 switch is a 4-terminal device with no contacts > closed when the handle is in the keyway position. So > yes, it is locked-off. > > Now, you could order a -3, 6-terminal On-On switch. > This configuration gives you the option of wiring > for the locked position to be OFF, or some alternate > ON function. Further, depending on supplier stock > for the switch, you can use either a "F" or "G" locking > configuration in a -3 switch by turing the switch over > in the mounting hole. > > > Bob . . . > > >


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    Time: 07:52:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Email from Mark Phillips
    From: Andrew Zachar <andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com>
    <snip> . . . which stultifies intelligent > conversation. > > Bob . . . <snip> I learn so much from this list. Usually it's about pushing and pulling electrons around. Sometimes, I get a vocab word. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stultifies Now I just have to figure out how to use it in a meeting today... do not archive. -- Andrew Zachar andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com


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    Time: 02:45:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Harbor Freight Hydraulic Crimper
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    HFT sent me a 20% off coupon with no limit on sale items so I treated myself to one of their Hydraulic Crimping Tools (part no 66150) for $39.95. When I got it home I was surprised at how small the crimping dies were. I'm not sure they're sized for the wire, much less the connector. The picture shows the AWG 4 dies with an Amp # 4 connector. Does anyone have experience using this tool? I'd like to hear from you before I make up my mind whether to keep the tool or not. Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 05:13:52 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Harbor Freight Hydraulic Crimper
    At 05:31 PM 5/4/2011, you wrote: >HFT sent me a 20% off coupon with no limit on sale items so I >treated myself to one of their Hydraulic Crimping Tools (part no >66150) for $39.95. When I got it home I was surprised at how small >the crimping dies were. I'm not sure they're sized for the wire, >much less the connector. >The picture shows the AWG 4 dies with an Amp # 4 connector. >Does anyone have experience using this tool? I'd like to hear from >you before I make up my mind whether to keep the tool or not. Go ahead and put a terminal onto a 4AWG wire and see what it looks like. I might have you send me the installed terminal and I'll slice it open for microscopic examination. How many die sets come with the tool? Bob . . .


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    Time: 05:24:03 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Harbor Freight Hydraulic Crimper
    > >Does anyone have experience using this tool? I'd like to hear from >you before I make up my mind whether to keep the tool or not. Did you check out the reviews on the website? http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html One reviewer suggested that the dies remind him more of tools for installing wire-rope fittings than for copper wire. Other folks have reported good results but universal disappointment on the squash-ears that result from having too much copper in the mash-up. Put some terminals on an enlighten us with your own perceptions. Bob . . .


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    Time: 05:41:31 PM PST US
    From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
    Subject: Re: EL lighting-wire causing noise
    FWIW my EL lights are powered through the homemade analog dimmer circuit on the aeroelectric pages and there is no noise evident at any brightness. I think the circuit used a LM317 regulator. Ken On 5/2/2011 8:43 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > That's exactly what I did when I had the same issue. Those EL lights > aren't the quietest things. The LED's are quiet though. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 5/2/2011 7:25 AM, Eric M. Jones wrote: >> Jones"<emjones@charter.net> >> >> My philosophy is that changing to an LED strip is the easy way to go. >> You can fix the EL problems, but does it make sense? >> >> -------- >> Eric M. Jones >> www.PerihelionDesign.com >> 113 Brentwood Drive >> Southbridge, MA 01550 >> (508) 764-2072 >> emjones@charter.net >> >>


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    Time: 06:14:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Harbor Freight Hydraulic Crimper
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 4, 2, 0, 00 Rick On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> > > At 05:31 PM 5/4/2011, you wrote: > >> HFT sent me a 20% off coupon with no limit on sale items so I treated >> myself to one of their Hydraulic Crimping Tools (part no 66150) for $39.95. >> When I got it home I was surprised at how small the crimping dies were. I'm >> not sure they're sized for the wire, much less the connector. >> The picture shows the AWG 4 dies with an Amp # 4 connector. >> Does anyone have experience using this tool? I'd like to hear from you >> before I make up my mind whether to keep the tool or not. >> > > Go ahead and put a terminal onto a 4AWG wire > and see what it looks like. I might have you send > me the installed terminal and I'll slice it open > for microscopic examination. How many die sets > come with the tool? > > > Bob . . . > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx




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