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1. 07:04 AM - Re: Stop nuts one terminal studs? (messydeer)
2. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: Stop nuts one terminal studs? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: Stop nuts one terminal studs? (Deems Herring)
4. 01:49 PM - Power Supply Connections (Dennis Johnson)
5. 03:02 PM - Re: Power Supply Connections (Michael Welch)
6. 03:17 PM - Re: Power Supply Connections (Allen Fulmer)
7. 03:39 PM - Re: Power Supply Connections (rayj)
8. 08:33 PM - Re: Power Supply Connections (Dennis Johnson)
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Subject: | Re: Stop nuts one terminal studs? |
> Dan, If your metric contactor studs are 6mm X 1.0, the 21042-4 will go right
on.
Thanks, Rick!
I do have some metric studs, come to think of it. Think it's the battery contactor,
not sure about the starter. Battery itself, too, I think.
Another thought is how much torque to put on these. I suppose I otta look that
info up from the contatctor specs. If the studs are embedded in plastic, seems
the 50-70 in-lbs could damage it.
And sorry about the late response. Since your post wasn't a reply to mine, I didn't
get an email.
Dan
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Subject: | Re: Stop nuts one terminal studs? |
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>Another thought is how much torque to put on these. I suppose I otta
>look that info up from the contatctor specs. If the studs are
>embedded in plastic, seems the 50-70 in-lbs could damage it.
These are generally hard copper or brass studs.
I don't think you're going to find anyone offering
recommended torque values. Us internal tooth lockwashwers
under the nuts and snug 'em up.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: Stop nuts one terminal studs? |
> Date: Mon=2C 22 Aug 2011 10:32:23 -0500
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> From: nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Stop nuts one terminal studs?
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kolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
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> >
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> >Another thought is how much torque to put on these. I suppose I otta
> >look that info up from the contatctor specs. If the studs are
> >embedded in plastic=2C seems the 50-70 in-lbs could damage it.
>
> These are generally hard copper or brass studs.
> I don't think you're going to find anyone offering
> recommended torque values. Us internal tooth lockwashwers
> under the nuts and snug 'em up.
>
> Bob . . .
I don't know about other manufacturers but these : http://www.trombetta.com
/dc-contactor-products.cfm?id=51 have the torque values on the label. You
can open the drawing and zoom in on the label.
Deems
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Subject: | Power Supply Connections |
I just bought this power supply for my hangar:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250852141183&ssP
ageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1123
I will plug it into my airplane's electrical system whenever I'm in the
hangar and running the instrument panel, such as when updating the
navigation database or running the "glass cockpit" in simulator mode for
practice. I'll also use it occasionally to top off the battery. I'll
plug it into a 120VAC wall outlet and it will supply 12VDC (adjustable
from 10.8 to 13.2 VDC).
If you zoom in on the photo at the left on the above link, or scroll
down on that page, you'll see that it has seven screw terminals for wire
connections, labeled as follows:
"L" Is this the AC line in?
"N" The other AC line in?
The ground symbol; the ground if I use a three wire AC cord?
"-V" Probably DC volts out, minus?
"-V" A duplicate of the previous one?
"+V" Probably DC volts out, positive?
"+V" A duplicate of the previous one?
It came with absolutely no documentation or instructions and I'm not
100% certain how to hook it up. I emailed the vendor, who is in China,
who has not responded.
I measured a few mega ohms between the L and N terminals. There are a
few tenths of an ohm between the two -V terminals. Same between each of
the two +V terminals.
Are my guesses above reasonable? I only have $15 into this, including
shipping, so it won't be the end of the world if I destroy it hooking it
up wrong, but I'd just as soon not.
Dennis
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Subject: | Re: Power Supply Connections |
Hi Dennis,
Nice looking, practical power supply. While we wait on our seasoned
electrical gurus to check in, here's what I'll bet
you'll see.
The L-N-G screws expect you to use a three wire cord, NOT a two wire.
Line, neutral, ground. Easy enough.
First, I'd get that cord hooked up and plug it in to 110V AC. Then,
take your multimeter, I'll bet you have two sources of
pos & neg 12V DC sets of screws. Find out which ones does what.
Attach your "positive" multimeter lead to one "+ screw", then see if
BOTH negative screws give you 12V, which would
tell you they have a common ground. (it probably does)
Your answer as to how it functions will be whether or not those two "+"
terminals are distinctly separate
12V DC power leads.
Mike Welch
On Aug 22, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
> I just bought this power supply for my hangar:
>
>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250852141183&ssPa
geName=ADME:L:OU:US:1123
>
> I will plug it into my airplane's electrical system whenever I'm in
the hangar and running the instrument panel, such as when updating the
navigation database or running the "glass cockpit" in simulator mode for
practice. I'll also use it occasionally to top off the battery. I'll
plug it into a 120VAC wall outlet and it will supply 12VDC (adjustable
from 10.8 to 13.2 VDC).
>
> If you zoom in on the photo at the left on the above link, or scroll
down on that page, you'll see that it has seven screw terminals for wire
connections, labeled as follows:
>
> "L" Is this the AC line in?
> "N" The other AC line in?
> The ground symbol; the ground if I use a three wire AC cord?
> "-V" Probably DC volts out, minus?
> "-V" A duplicate of the previous one?
> "+V" Probably DC volts out, positive?
> "+V" A duplicate of the previous one?
>
> It came with absolutely no documentation or instructions and I'm not
100% certain how to hook it up. I emailed the vendor, who is in China,
who has not responded.
>
> I measured a few mega ohms between the L and N terminals. There are a
few tenths of an ohm between the two -V terminals. Same between each of
the two +V terminals.
>
> Are my guesses above reasonable? I only have $15 into this, including
shipping, so it won't be the end of the world if I destroy it hooking it
up wrong, but I'd just as soon not.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Power Supply Connections |
I have the exact same thing and will wire it up the way you have described.
Except remember that the "N" stands for Neutral and is usually grounded at
the breaker box and usually the white wire. The black would go from the
breaker to the "L(ine)" connection. Ground is usually Green. So while "N"
is "the other AC Line in" they are not the same and you will get fireworks
if you hook them up backwards.
You may already know this so pardon the explanation if not necessary.
Allen Fulmer
RV7 working on cowling
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Johnson
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:43 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Power Supply Connections
I just bought this power supply for my hangar:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250852141183&ssPageN
ame=ADME:L:OU:US:1123> &item=250852141183&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1123
I will plug it into my airplane's electrical system whenever I'm in the
hangar and running the instrument panel, such as when updating the
navigation database or running the "glass cockpit" in simulator mode for
practice. I'll also use it occasionally to top off the battery. I'll plug
it into a 120VAC wall outlet and it will supply 12VDC (adjustable from 10.8
to 13.2 VDC).
If you zoom in on the photo at the left on the above link, or scroll down on
that page, you'll see that it has seven screw terminals for wire
connections, labeled as follows:
"L" Is this the AC line in?
"N" The other AC line in?
The ground symbol; the ground if I use a three wire AC cord?
"-V" Probably DC volts out, minus?
"-V" A duplicate of the previous one?
"+V" Probably DC volts out, positive?
"+V" A duplicate of the previous one?
It came with absolutely no documentation or instructions and I'm not 100%
certain how to hook it up. I emailed the vendor, who is in China, who has
not responded.
I measured a few mega ohms between the L and N terminals. There are a few
tenths of an ohm between the two -V terminals. Same between each of the two
+V terminals.
Are my guesses above reasonable? I only have $15 into this, including
shipping, so it won't be the end of the world if I destroy it hooking it up
wrong, but I'd just as soon not.
Dennis
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Subject: | Re: Power Supply Connections |
do not archive
FWIW
I recall hearing that some types of power supplies are unhappy unless
there is some load on them. Don't remember what type. May not apply
here at all or may not even be true. Don't want that smoke to get out. :)
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 08/22/2011 05:16 PM, Allen Fulmer wrote:
> I have the exact same thing and will wire it up the way you have
> described. Except remember that the N stands for Neutral and is
> usually grounded at the breaker box and usually the white wire. The
> black would go from the breaker to the L(ine) connection. Ground is
> usually Green. So while N is the other AC Line in they are not the
> same and you will get fireworks if you hook them up backwards.
>
> You may already know this so pardon the explanation if not necessary.
>
> Allen Fulmer
>
> RV7 working on cowling
>
> *From:*owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Dennis Johnson
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 3:43 PM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: Power Supply Connections
>
> I just bought this power supply for my hangar:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250852141183&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1123
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250852141183&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1123>
>
> I will plug it into my airplane's electrical system whenever I'm in the
> hangar and running the instrument panel, such as when updating the
> navigation database or running the "glass cockpit" in simulator mode for
> practice. I'll also use it occasionally to top off the battery. I'll
> plug it into a 120VAC wall outlet and it will supply 12VDC (adjustable
> from 10.8 to 13.2 VDC).
>
> If you zoom in on the photo at the left on the above link, or scroll
> down on that page, you'll see that it has seven screw terminals for wire
> connections, labeled as follows:
>
> "L" Is this the AC line in?
>
> "N" The other AC line in?
>
> The ground symbol; the ground if I use a three wire AC cord?
>
> "-V" Probably DC volts out, minus?
>
> "-V" A duplicate of the previous one?
>
> "+V" Probably DC volts out, positive?
>
> "+V" A duplicate of the previous one?
>
> It came with absolutely no documentation or instructions and I'm not
> 100% certain how to hook it up. I emailed the vendor, who is in China,
> who has not responded.
>
> I measured a few mega ohms between the L and N terminals. There are a
> few tenths of an ohm between the two -V terminals. Same between each of
> the two +V terminals.
>
> Are my guesses above reasonable? I only have $15 into this, including
> shipping, so it won't be the end of the world if I destroy it hooking it
> up wrong, but I'd just as soon not.
>
> Dennis
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Subject: | Re: Power Supply Connections |
Thanks for the speedy and helpful answers! I'll hook it up within a few days and
report back.
Thanks,
Dennis
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