AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Tue 09/13/11


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:48 AM - Re: AeroLed landing lights not working with wig wag relay (Helidesigner)
     2. 08:11 AM - Re: Rotax 912ULS charging problem (Jan de Jong)
     3. 10:26 AM - Re: Low Cost WigWag Alternatives (Brantel)
     4. 10:35 AM - Re: Low Cost WigWag Alternatives (Brantel)
     5. 11:22 AM - Re: Rotax 912ULS charging problem (Nati Niv)
     6. 01:30 PM - Report on New Power Supply (Dennis Johnson)
     7. 07:20 PM - Re: Rotax 912ULS charging problem (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     8. 08:10 PM - Re: Report on New Power Supply (Richard E. Tasker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:48:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AeroLed landing lights not working with wig wag
    relay
    From: "Helidesigner" <mwscott2@comcast.net>
    The Aeroled units with wig wag were an additional $100 each. It was a lot cheaper to buy a simple flasher unit. I have a light in each wing tip. The wiring is also easier with the flasher unit behind the panel. The Aeroled units need to be connect by a few wires that would have to run tip to tip. -------- Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352124#352124


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    Time: 08:11:52 AM PST US
    From: Jan de Jong <jan_de_jong@casema.nl>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912ULS charging problem
    Another schematic attached - also without correctness guarantee. Jan de Jong


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    Time: 10:26:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Cost WigWag Alternatives
    From: "Brantel" <bchesteen@hughes.net>
    The cheap NAPA relay will not work to wig-wag HID's even if you do heat them up manually. I use this solid state wig-wagger and it works great with em! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352162#352162


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    Time: 10:35:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Cost WigWag Alternatives
    From: "Brantel" <bchesteen@hughes.net>
    The cheap NAPA relay will not work to wig-wag HID's even if you do heat them up manually. I use this solid state wig-wagger and it works great with em! . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352164#352164


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    Time: 11:22:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912ULS charging problem
    From: Nati Niv <n992dn@gmail.com>
    Jan Thanks so much, I think the diagram you provided is accurate, the replacement part number for the SCR (2N6504) help verifying that these are SCR'S. by looking at your diagram I was able to understand the principal of operation of the charger. The two SCRs are used to connect to ground each one of the G terminals during its negative part of the cycle making it referenced to ground so the other G terminal can charge the battery thru the in line diode. (the G leads coming from the engine are not referenced t o ground otherwise). With regards to my charging problem, the way I read the diagram is the charge light on/off control is related only to the existing of AC energy between the two G terminals, not to anything else, it=92s a bit surprising. My understanding of the charge light logic did not help me at all to Identify the source of the incorrect indication problem I am facing with. Bob, I suggest that you replace the diagram currently published on your web sit e with the one Jan has provided Thanks and regards Nati On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Jan de Jong <jan_de_jong@casema.nl> wrote : > Another schematic attached - also without correctness guarantee. > > Jan de Jong >


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    Time: 01:30:07 PM PST US
    From: "Dennis Johnson" <pinetownd@volcano.net>
    Subject: Report on New Power Supply
    A few weeks ago I reported that I had bought this 12 volt power supply: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250852141183 I wanted it to power my instrument panel while doing navigation data updates, cycling the wing flaps, and other tasks that would otherwise take power from the airplane's battery. I have one that appeared similar to this one that works perfectly. However, the new one seems pretty close to useless for my needs. If I adjust the output voltage higher than about 12.4 volts DC, the power supply goes into overload and makes a quiet snapping sound about once per second and the output amps go to zero (while it's connected to my airplane's battery). The literature claims the output voltage is adjustable from 10.8 to 13.2 volts and that the input voltage is from 100 to 264 VAC. However, the one I received is labeled 176 - 264 volts AC. My guess is that since my input is 120 volts, the power supply cannot achieve the stated performance. I only paid $15 for it, including shipping, so I'm not all that unhappy. I'm sure I'll find a use for it somewhere. I just wanted to pass along that the power supply I received doesn't seem to be suitable for 12 volt airplanes. I could complain to the seller, but when I emailed them to ask how to connect it, since it came without instructions, my emails was never answered and it's now worth my time to fight for $15. I might look at battery maintainers at Wal Mart instead. Since I'm done building, I don't ground test heavy loads (like raising and lowering the landing gear) that often. A battery maintainer is probably all I need anyway. Dennis


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    Time: 07:20:52 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912ULS charging problem
    >Bob, > >I suggest that you replace the diagram currently published on your >web site with the one Jan has provided > >Thanks and regards > >Nati > Good idea sir. I'll do it right now. Bob . . .


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    Time: 08:10:11 PM PST US
    From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: Report on New Power Supply
    Interestingly, if you look closely at the photo on the eBay listing you can see printed on the top of the supply "AC 176-264V". Not that anyone would notice that when bidding... You should at least give feedback to eBay about this. How many others will purchase this supply just like you did and discover the same thing as you did? Dick Tasker Dennis Johnson wrote: > A few weeks ago I reported that I had bought this 12 volt power supply: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250852141183 <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250852141183> > I wanted it to power my instrument panel while doing navigation data updates, cycling the wing flaps, and other tasks that would otherwise take power from the airplane's battery. I have one that > appeared similar to this one that works perfectly. > However, the new one seems pretty close to useless for my needs. If I adjust the output voltage higher than about 12.4 volts DC, the power supply goes into overload and makes a quiet snapping sound > about once per second and the output amps go to zero (while it's connected to my airplane's battery). > The literature claims the output voltage is adjustable from 10.8 to 13.2 volts and that the input voltage is from 100 to 264 VAC. However, the one I received is labeled 176 - 264 volts AC. My > guess is that since my input is 120 volts, the power supply cannot achieve the stated performance. > I only paid $15 for it, including shipping, so I'm not all that unhappy. I'm sure I'll find a use for it somewhere. I just wanted to pass along that the power supply I received doesn't seem to be > suitable for 12 volt airplanes. I could complain to the seller, but when I emailed them to ask how to connect it, since it came without instructions, my emails was never answered and it's now worth > my time to fight for $15. > I might look at battery maintainers at Wal Mart instead. Since I'm done building, I don't ground test heavy loads (like raising and lowering the landing gear) that often. A battery maintainer is > probably all I need anyway. > Dennis > * > > > * -- Please Note: No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. We do concede, however, that a significant number of electrons may have been temporarily inconvenienced. --




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