---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/10/11: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:02 AM - Re: Electric aircraft issues (Glen Matejcek) 2. 05:12 AM - System Design (dj45) 3. 05:30 AM - Re: System Design (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 4. 05:47 AM - Re: System Design (nuckollsr) 5. 06:25 AM - Handheld Radio Antenna (Michael Welch) 6. 08:07 AM - Re: Handheld Radio Antenna (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 7. 09:34 AM - Re: Handheld Radio Antenna (Marvin Haught) 8. 09:57 AM - Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (Matt Dralle) 9. 10:25 AM - Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (Harley) 10. 01:53 PM - Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (Charlie England) 11. 04:11 PM - Re: System Design (dj45) 12. 04:16 PM - Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (David Lloyd) 13. 04:18 PM - Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (Matt Dralle) 14. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (Richard Girard) 15. 07:33 PM - Re: Handheld Radio Antenna (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 16. 08:45 PM - Re: Handheld Radio Antenna (Marvin Haught) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:08 AM PST US From: Glen Matejcek Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Electric aircraft issues Hi Bob- > I recall working a MU2 accident down in TX that > involved a ni-cad battery fire . . . was that the one involving a runaway battery that severed the pitch control system? Do Not archive Glen Matejcek ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:36 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: System Design From: "dj45" Could one or two of you expert electron herders look this over and give any advise, pro or con? http://www.vikingaircraftengines.com/Wiring%20page.html -------- Do not archive Dan Stanton N801S CH 801 N226BS CH701 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354497#354497 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:30 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: System Design vAt 07:09 AM 10/10/2011, you wrote: Could one or two of you expert electron herders look this over and give any advise, pro or con? http://www.vikingaircraftengines.com/Wiring%20page.html Drawings like these are less than helpful. The generous sprinkling of breakers and fuses says the author was worried more about having things burn up than about how things worked or what materials and processes were used. Suggest you hook your wagon to the AeroElectric-List and let's talk about how you intend to use this airplane and help you establish some design goals for both normal and operations under failure of any single component. Once those goals are in place and shared, we can assist you with a great deal more detail than what is provided in the drawing you cited above. Tell us about your airplane, its engine and how you plan to use it. Bob . . . Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:38 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: System Design From: "nuckollsr" I spoke too soon. I did not scroll down far enough in the webpage you cited . . . The offered drawings are considerably more complete than I first perceived. My original impressions about the sprinkling of fuses/breakers was valid . . . and this architecture is more like an automobile than an airplane. In no way am I suggesting that their system does not FUNCTION as advertised; only that it would benefit from some lessons learned in the legacy aircraft architectures and wiring. These folks have obviously done a lot of work to bring this product to market and it looks like a well conceived project. This particular engine might warrant a new Z-figure. My original advice is still operative. Let's talk! Bob . . . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354502#354502 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:29 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Handheld Radio Antenna From: Michael Welch Hi guys, Recently I got to get a close look at a friend's plane that he is almost finished building. It's been a year since I've seen it, because he lives a 2 1/2 hour drive away. Anyway, I noticed he had a whip style com antenna, which will attach to his primary radio, a handheld unit. Upon close inspection, I noticed it did NOT appear to have a ground plane. He, too, said he wondered about that, but it is 'as purchased' from LEAF Aircraft Parts. I did a quick search and came up with the antenna in question, and sure enough, it doesn't look like it has a ground plane, or will allow you to add one. My questions are; A) Does it have a ground plane 'built in', and we just can't see it? OR, B) Does it not need one (because it's for a handheld radio)? Obviously with the adel clamp, it simply attaches to the airframe minus any grounding requirements. We were just curious if everything is okay with this design. Thanks for any insight. Here's the unit; http://store.leadingedgeairfoils.com/product_info.php?products_id=12715 Mike Welch ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:55 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Handheld Radio Antenna At 08:21 AM 10/10/2011, you wrote: Hi guys, Recently I got to get a close look at a friend's plane that he is almost finished building. It's been a year since I've seen it, because he lives a 2 1/2 hour drive away. Anyway, I noticed he had a whip style com antenna, which will attach to his primary radio, a handheld unit. Upon close inspection, I noticed it did NOT appear to have a ground plane. He, too, said he wondered about that, but it is 'as purchased' from LEAF Aircraft Parts. I did a quick search and came up with the antenna in question, and sure enough, it doesn't look like it has a ground plane, or will allow you to add one. My questions are; A) Does it have a ground plane 'built in', and we just can't see it? OR, B) Does it not need one (because it's for a handheld radio)? Obviously with the adel clamp, it simply attaches to the airframe minus any grounding requirements. We were just curious if everything is okay with this design. Thanks for any insight. Here's the unit; http://store.leadingedgeairfoils.com/product_info.php?products_id=12715 Your suspicions are justified. Having said that, it's also a sure bet that this device will probably function better than the stock 'rubber duck' antenna in the cabin. The antenna would probably work better if the coax shield were brought to some metallic portion of the airframe at the base of the antenna. Its SWR would certainly be lower. The ideas behind optimal antenna design are few and simple. Unfortunately, the marketplace for "new and improved" antenna designs is vulnerable to smoke-n- mirrors merchandising. The antenna cited is not optimal but it is an improvement. At the same time, a bit of time and effort in his workshop could produce an antenna that works as well if not better. One of MANY suggestions . . . http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Antennas/DIY_Comm_Ant/DIY_Comm.html Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:24 AM PST US From: Marvin Haught Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Handheld Radio Antenna Bob - Have a couple of projects on which I need antennas. Just bought 3 of the antenna mounts on ebay for $12+ including shipping. Where do I get the coax connectors? I've been looking on line but haven't seen any that look exactly like that one. Obviously, I'm new at this and am totally unfamiliar with the parts. Will also need the antenna wire. Do you have a section some where that I can read up on antenna installation? M. Haught On 10/10/2011 10:02 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > > At 08:21 AM 10/10/2011, you wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > Recently I got to get a close look at a friend's plane that he is > almost finished building. > It's been a year since I've seen it, because he lives a 2 1/2 hour > drive away. > > Anyway, I noticed he had a whip style com antenna, which will attach > to his primary radio, > a handheld unit. Upon close inspection, I noticed it did NOT appear > to have a ground plane. > He, too, said he wondered about that, but it is 'as purchased' from > LEAF Aircraft Parts. > > I did a quick search and came up with the antenna in question, and > sure enough, it doesn't > look like it has a ground plane, or will allow you to add one. > My questions are; > > A) Does it have a ground plane 'built in', and we just can't see > it? OR, > > B) Does it not need one (because it's for a handheld radio)? > > Obviously with the adel clamp, it simply attaches to the airframe > minus any grounding > requirements. We were just curious if everything is okay with this > design. Thanks for > any insight. > > Here's the unit; > > http://store.leadingedgeairfoils.com/product_info.php?products_id=12715 > > Your suspicions are justified. Having said that, it's > also a sure bet that this device will probably function > better than the stock 'rubber duck' antenna in the > cabin. The antenna would probably work better if the coax > shield were brought to some metallic portion of the airframe > at the base of the antenna. Its SWR would certainly be > lower. > > > The ideas behind optimal antenna design are few and > simple. Unfortunately, the marketplace for "new and > improved" antenna designs is vulnerable to smoke-n- > mirrors merchandising. > > The antenna cited is not optimal but it is an > improvement. At the same time, a bit of time and > effort in his workshop could produce an antenna > that works as well if not better. > > One of MANY suggestions . . . > > http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Antennas/DIY_Comm_Ant/DIY_Comm.html > > > Bob . . . > //// > (o o) > ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== > < Go ahead, make my day . . . > > < show me where I'm wrong. > > ================================ > > -- H.Marvin Haught Jr. Haught& Associates, Inc Huntsville, AR 72740 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:03 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: AeroElectric-List: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... Greetings Listers, I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control Panel (RCP) unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in the airplane and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the mounting holes was broken off. I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the RCP from it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The hole for this RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from the E-01 but appeared to be exactly the same as far as make and connector hole. Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is from ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King AK-450. Except for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look exactly the same and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a Black button and a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery. But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, it turns out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the original E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, so the wiring and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of the two different RCP's is slightly different. The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP that doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized RCP won't fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big. Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into this before. Thanks! Matt Dralle - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:17 AM PST US From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... Afternoon, Matt... My first thought (if I read your note correctly) would be to use the smaller one that works, and make a new miniature panel to mount it in, then mount the new miniature panel to cover the larger hole...It may look a little odd (you could paint it pink, I suppose, to REALLY make it odd!) but it would keep you from encountering any other problems that may crop up even if you think you get the RCP working, as it may fail when needed the most. Harley ----------------------------------------------------------------- On 10/10/2011 12:53 PM, Matt Dralle wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt Dralle > > > Greetings Listers, > > I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control Panel (RCP) unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in the airplane and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the mounting holes was broken off. > > I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the RCP from it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The hole for this RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from the E-01 but appeared to be exactly the same as far as make and connector hole. > > Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is from ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King AK-450. Except for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look exactly the same and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a Black button and a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery. > > But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, it turns out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the original E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, so the wiring and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of the two different RCP's is slightly different. > > The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP that doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized RCP won't fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big. > > Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into this before. > > Thanks! > > Matt Dralle > > > - > Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:52 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... On 10/10/2011 11:53 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt Dralle > > > Greetings Listers, > > I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control Panel (RCP) unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in the airplane and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the mounting holes was broken off. > > I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the RCP from it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The hole for this RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from the E-01 but appeared to be exactly the same as far as make and connector hole. > > Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is from ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King AK-450. Except for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look exactly the same and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a Black button and a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery. > > But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, it turns out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the original E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, so the wiring and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of the two different RCP's is slightly different. > > The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP that doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized RCP won't fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big. > > Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into this before. > > Thanks! > > Matt Dralle > There's at least one ELT out there that has the leads in the 'phone wire' re-arranged between the two ends. Sorry; I can't remember which one, but an archive search might find some posts about it. Some have cut the end to feed through the airframe, crimped on a new connector, & then discovered that the wires were, IIRC, reversed in the connector in one end. One thing to try (if the connector is the same as a regular phone-to-wall-jack connector) is to simply grab a phone cable and a wall jack. The wall jack makes using your volt/ohm meter a lot easier. plug the connector into the switch module & the wall jack. Check resistances & voltages with the switch in each of the possible positions, & make a chart of the results. Repeat with the other switch module. Make a new cable with re-arranged wires to give results that match the original switch. Charlie ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:11:42 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: System Design From: "dj45" Bob, I am using Z19 with some minor changes. It is in a Zenith 701. After three very interesting flights with another engine set up. I may be on the overly cautious side. I was just wondering what other's opinions of would be of the factory dwgs. I don't see what effect the capacitor will have in it's location. As I said, I'm not using this, I was just wondering. Thanks -------- Do not archive Dan Stanton N801S CH 801 N226BS CH701 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354591#354591 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:16:21 PM PST US From: "David Lloyd" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... Hi Charlie, I wish that you hit the List with the problem before doing the cutting. I know something about this as I had asked one of Bob's Lists the very same question. Did anyone know the difference in these two RCP units and how to modify either to do the others job. I received no replies. However, being that ACK and Ameri-King are arch rivals, they naturally would not standardize the RCP. One is probably pull to ground and the other is a pull up to control the ELT. Hopefully, your message to the List will find a person that knows the workings of these simple RCP boxes and advise a few changes to make it work. I will be watching too for any answers.... Dave _________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:48 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... > > > On 10/10/2011 11:53 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt >> Dralle >> >> >> Greetings Listers, >> >> I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control >> Panel (RCP) unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel >> in the airplane and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of >> the mounting holes was broken off. >> >> I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the >> RCP from it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The >> hole for this RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from >> the E-01 but appeared to be exactly the same as far as make and connector >> hole. >> >> Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 >> is from ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an >> Ameri-King AK-450. Except for the difference in vertical size the two >> RCP's look exactly the same and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both >> have a Red and a Black button and a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt >> battery. >> >> But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, >> it turns out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug >> the original E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 >> on/off, so the wiring and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal >> wiring of the two different RCP's is slightly different. >> >> The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP >> that doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized >> RCP won't fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big. >> >> Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into >> this before. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Matt Dralle >> > There's at least one ELT out there that has the leads in the 'phone wire' > re-arranged between the two ends. Sorry; I can't remember which one, but > an archive search might find some posts about it. Some have cut the end to > feed through the airframe, crimped on a new connector, & then discovered > that the wires were, IIRC, reversed in the connector in one end. > > One thing to try (if the connector is the same as a regular > phone-to-wall-jack connector) is to simply grab a phone cable and a wall > jack. The wall jack makes using your volt/ohm meter a lot easier. plug the > connector into the switch module & the wall jack. Check resistances & > voltages with the switch in each of the possible positions, & make a chart > of the results. Repeat with the other switch module. Make a new cable with > re-arranged wires to give results that match the original switch. > > Charlie > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:18:25 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... I just got an email back from ACK Tech and they said: "To use the Ameriking remote you must cut one end off the cable and turn it 180 degrees. - Mike Akatiff, ACK Technologies" Simple enough! Yahoo! Matt Dralle At 09:53 AM 10/10/2011 Monday, Matt Dralle wrote: > > >Greetings Listers, > >I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control Panel (RCP) unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in the airplane and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the mounting holes was broken off. > >I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the RCP from it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The hole for this RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from the E-01 but appeared to be exactly the same as far as make and connector hole. > >Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is from ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King AK-450. Except for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look exactly the same and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a Black button and a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery. > >But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, it turns out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the original E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, so the wiring and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of the two different RCP's is slightly different. > >The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP that doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized RCP won't fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big. > >Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into this before. > >Thanks! > >Matt Dralle - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... From: Richard Girard Matt, Wouldn't it be even easier to just switch out the ELT and match up RCP to appropriate ELT? Rick Girard On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Matt Dralle wrote: > > > > I just got an email back from ACK Tech and they said: > > "To use the Ameriking remote you must cut one end off the cable and turn it > 180 degrees. - Mike Akatiff, ACK Technologies" > > Simple enough! Yahoo! > > Matt Dralle > > > At 09:53 AM 10/10/2011 Monday, Matt Dralle wrote: > dralle@matronics.com> > > > > > >Greetings Listers, > > > >I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control > Panel (RCP) unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in > the airplane and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the > mounting holes was broken off. > > > >I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the > RCP from it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The > hole for this RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from > the E-01 but appeared to be exactly the same as far as make and connector > hole. > > > >Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is > from ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King > AK-450. Except for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look > exactly the same and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a > Black button and a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery. > > > >But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, > it turns out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the > original E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, > so the wiring and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of > the two different RCP's is slightly different. > > > >The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP > that doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized > RCP won't fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big. > > > >Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into > this before. > > > >Thanks! > > > >Matt Dralle > > - > Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:01 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Handheld Radio Antenna At 11:30 AM 10/10/2011, you wrote: Bob - Have a couple of projects on which I need antennas. Just bought 3 of the antenna mounts on ebay for $12+ including shipping. Where do I get the coax connectors? I've been looking on line but haven't seen any that look exactly like that one. Obviously, I'm new at this and am totally unfamiliar with the parts. Will also need the antenna wire. Do you have a section some where that I can read up on antenna installation? Yes, there is a chapter on antennas and feed lines in The 'Connection. Modern coax is available from a variety of sources. RG400 141 or 142 are all suited to your task. I have an RG142 special (your choice of connectors installed for no extra charge). You might consider the offering at: https://matronics.com/aeroelectric/Catalog/AECcatalog.html You can get a 4-pack of those adapters off eBay for about $11 including shipping at: http://tinyurl.com/3zmxkg8 Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:26 PM PST US From: Marvin Haught Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Handheld Radio Antenna Thanks, Bob!! Just ordered the adapters from EBay and got the antenna mounts this morning. All I need is the coax! Will check it out on your site. M. Haught On 10/10/2011 9:29 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > > At 11:30 AM 10/10/2011, you wrote: > > > Bob - > > Have a couple of projects on which I need antennas. Just bought 3 of > the antenna mounts on ebay for $12+ including shipping. Where do I > get the coax connectors? I've been looking on line but haven't seen > any that look exactly like that one. Obviously, I'm new at this and > am totally unfamiliar with the parts. Will also need the antenna wire. > Do you have a section some where that I can read up on antenna > installation? > > Yes, there is a chapter on antennas and feed lines in > The 'Connection. Modern coax is available from > a variety of sources. RG400 141 or 142 are all suited > to your task. I have an RG142 special (your choice of > connectors installed for no extra charge). You might > consider the offering at: > > https://matronics.com/aeroelectric/Catalog/AECcatalog.html > > You can get a 4-pack of those adapters off eBay > for about $11 including shipping at: > > http://tinyurl.com/3zmxkg8 > > > Bob . . . > > -- H.Marvin Haught Jr. Haught& Associates, Inc Huntsville, AR 72740 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.