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1. 01:41 AM - Re: Battery Charge Information (James Kilford)
2. 06:18 AM - Change you can bank on . . . (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 06:49 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (BobsV35B@aol.com)
4. 07:13 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Michael Welch)
5. 07:54 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Robert Sultzbach)
6. 08:10 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (BobsV35B@aol.com)
7. 08:25 AM - EI clock chime (Bill Shank)
8. 08:29 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (BobsV35B@aol.com)
9. 08:57 AM - Re: EI clock chime (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 09:48 AM - Re: EI clock chime (James Kilford)
11. 09:48 AM - Re: EI clock chime (James Kilford)
12. 09:48 AM - Re: EI clock chime (James Kilford)
13. 09:57 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Andrew Zachar)
14. 09:58 AM - Re: EI clock chime (Bill Shank)
15. 10:10 AM - Re: EI clock chime (James Kilford)
16. 10:14 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Robert Sultzbach)
17. 10:57 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (BobsV35B@aol.com)
18. 11:06 AM - 'Electric Connection (Rob Henderson)
19. 11:24 AM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Andrew Zachar)
20. 12:17 PM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Robert Sultzbach)
21. 02:03 PM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Ken)
22. 02:58 PM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (BobsV35B@aol.com)
23. 03:53 PM - Fat terminal size (Bubblehead)
24. 04:02 PM - Re: Fat terminal size ()
25. 06:21 PM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Lynn A Riggs)
26. 08:04 PM - Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design (Sean Stephens)
27. 09:14 PM - Re: 'Electric Connection (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
28. 09:58 PM - Re: 'Electric Connection (Rob Henderson)
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Charge Information |
Yep, they're terrific if you can code. I've done a PIC-based 2-1/4" gauge
for my project, which shows three fuel tank levels on a small colour LCD
display. Built-in A-D on the chip makes it much easier for someone like me
who knows little of the mysteries of hardware.
James
On 18 October 2011 06:15, Paul McAllister <l_luv2_fly@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Yes I just love PIC's. I am feeling a bit dated when I can tell you that
> first learned to tinker with this stuff on Data General Nova's and Motorola
> 6800's. The first real useful device I had was the 8051 and I can recall
> that it nearly used to bring tears to my eyes to try and get a serial i/o
> working in assembly language.
>
> Fast forwarding 20 years to PIC's where a single line of code takes care of
> a serial i/o that is native to the chip, along with as many timers, ADC and
> parallel i/o all on a single chip. Gee its just too easy.
>
> Cheers, Paul
>
> do not archive.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
> **
>
>
> At 12:38 PM 10/15/2011, you wrote:
> > Bob,
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts. I had planned to build it with a PIC Micro.
>
> aha! great! if you'd post your hardware proposal
> sketches perhaps we could collaborate together
> and perhaps inspire others to rise to the occasion
> of their own ideas. I think the PICs are here
> to stay . . .
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Change you can bank on . . . |
>
>Fast forwarding 20 years to PIC's where a single line of code takes
>care of a serial i/o that is native to the chip, along with as many
>timers, ADC and parallel i/o all on a single chip. Gee its just too easy.
But a prime example of how exploitation of intellectual
advances replaces the taxation of $time$. It also changes
the paradigm for what the up-and-coming generations need
to learn in order to prosper.
I used to lay out etched circuit boards on sheets of
Mylar with rolls of tape and sticky donuts. The art
was photographed and subsequent negatives used to
transfer etch patterns to copper clad with very
labor intensive processes. Turn-time on finished
boards was generally a week or more with setup
charges for small quantities costing more than
the boards.
Now I do it on a screen, e-mail the file along
with a credit card number and get finished boards
back in 3 days (two of those days are consumed by
Second Day Air service!).
A whole lot of folks 'lost their jobs' over these
transitions . . . as did the buggy whip and lamp
wick makers of yesteryear. He who cannot or will not
adapt is destined to disappointment. I observe
growing levels of 'disappointment' in the once great
airplane companies I've worked for. The exploitation
of change is routine in our work shops where the
OBAM aircraft work product of individuals equals
or exceeds that which was once the purview of factories.
The transitions have roots in the minds and hands
of the creative . . . not in the decisions of
the board rooms and trading floors. I once gave
a presentation on how a PIC and a a hand-full of
jelly-beans on a 2 x 2 board replaced a 3 x 6
board with over 100 parts for about 1/10th
the cost. Everybody smiled, said "good job"
and then went to look for a coffee refill and
to see what kind of donuts were left . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Good Morning OC,
I think we may have had this discussion before, but I do not feel a
transponder is needed by everyone.
Never actually measured the amount of airspace where a transponder is
required, but I will bet a milk shake that the airspace where one is required
makes up way less the ten percent of the air space in the USA. Sure, for
those of us who live and fly in the shadow of places like O'Hare International
Airport, it is required equipment, but out in the boonies, it is just
another toy for most.
As Always, It All Depends!
For just piddling around in the hinterlands it is cost and weight that can
be done without.
As for resale value, ANY electronics you install will be the fastest
depreciating component in the airplane!
Keep it simple and install nothing you do not need.
The Street Price for a good working Garmin 496 is now about 800 bucks. Two
years ago it would bring 2400.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Stearman N3977A
Downers Grove, Illinois
In a message dated 10/12/2011 7:55:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
bakerocb@cox.net writes:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net>
10/12/2011
Hello Dan, You wrote: "....but a transponder is a "maybe"."
Please change that "maybe" to a "yes".
Having a transponder in an aircraft in this day and age is sort of like
having turn signals in an automobile. You may get by OK for a time with
arm
signals in your automobile, but you will soon regret not having turn
signals
installed.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort
to
gather and understand knowledge."
PS: Someday you, your widow, or your children will be selling that
airplane.
A prospective buyer will be discouraged by the lack of a transponder.
================================================================
Time: 06:07:18 PM PST US
From: "Dan Sherburn" <dsherburn@att.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design
I'm building a Zenith CH750 (just started). The Zenith Builders group
directed me to the AeroElectric Connection. I've ordered Bob's books and
CD. I've utilized one of the sample drawings I'd like to use as the
basis for an electrical design for my Zenith. To date, I'm planning on a
very simple, day, VFR airplane. Continental 0200, no vacuum. As such,
I'm looking for a very simple, proper electrical design for the plane.
Attached is a straight forward electrical design taken from the
AeroElectric Connection samples. Please review and comment. I've yet to
detail avionics, but at a minimum I'll have a simple GPS and Comm (no
Nav), but a transponder is a "maybe".
I'm an Electrical Engineer, which doesn't mean alot in terms of Aircraft
electrical systems; just that I'm comfortable with electrical control
systems
Thanks in advance!
Dan Sherburn
Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Bob,
Regarding "required" airspace for a transponder, you are correct.
However, another VERY valuable attribute of the transponder is having
the
various airspace monitors (ATC guys) keep an eye on you with "Flight
Following".
For the few 'several hundred mile 'cross-countrys' I've been on, plus
a few shorter ones,
I've enjoyed the security of knowing the ATC guys were watching out for
me. The 5-6
x-country journeys I can think of were over mountains, or remote
deserts.
Absolutely necessary? No. A little comforting? Very much so!
Mike Welch
On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:46 AM, BobsV35B@aol.com wrote:
> Good Morning OC,
>
> I think we may have had this discussion before, but I do not feel a
transponder is needed by everyone.
>
> Never actually measured the amount of airspace where a transponder is
required, but I will bet a milk shake that the airspace where one is
required makes up way less the ten percent of the air space in the USA.
Sure, for those of us who live and fly in the shadow of places like
O'Hare International Airport, it is required equipment, but out in the
boonies, it is just another toy for most.
>
> As Always, It All Depends!
>
> For just piddling around in the hinterlands it is cost and weight that
can be done without.
>
> As for resale value, ANY electronics you install will be the fastest
depreciating component in the airplane!
>
> Keep it simple and install nothing you do not need.
>
> The Street Price for a good working Garmin 496 is now about 800 bucks.
Two years ago it would bring 2400.
>
> Happy Skies,
>
> Old Bob
> AKA
> Bob Siegfried
> Stearman N3977A
> Downers Grove, Illinois
>
> In a message dated 10/12/2011 7:55:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
bakerocb@cox.net writes:
>
> 10/12/2011
>
> Hello Dan, You wrote: "....but a transponder is a "maybe"."
>
> Please change that "maybe" to a "yes".
>
> Having a transponder in an aircraft in this day and age is sort of
like
> having turn signals in an automobile. You may get by OK for a time
with arm
> signals in your automobile, but you will soon regret not having turn
signals
> installed.
>
> 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and
effort to
> gather and understand knowledge."
>
> PS: Someday you, your widow, or your children will be selling that
airplane.
> A prospective buyer will be discouraged by the lack of a transponder.
>
> ========================
===============
>
> Time: 06:07:18 PM PST US
> From: "Dan Sherburn" <dsherburn@att.net>
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design
>
> I'm building a Zenith CH750 (just started). The Zenith Builders group
> directed me to the AeroElectric Connection. I've ordered Bob's books
and
> CD. I've utilized one of the sample drawings I'd like to use as the
> basis for an electrical design for my Zenith. To date, I'm planning on
a
> very simple, day, VFR airplane. Continental 0200, no vacuum. As such,
> I'm looking for a very simple, proper electrical design for the plane.
> Attached is a straight forward electrical design taken from the
> AeroElectric Connection samples. Please review and comment. I've yet
to
> detail avionics, but at a minimum I'll have a simple GPS and Comm (no
> Nav), but a transponder is a "maybe".
>
> I'm an Electrical Engineer, which doesn't mean alot in terms of
Aircraft
> electrical systems; just that I'm comfortable with electrical control
> systems
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Dan Sherburn
> Michigan
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
I believe a functioning transponder with an altitude encoder is priceless fo
r enhancing safety. Modern collision avoidance systems use the transponder a
nd mode C read outs to make your presence known to fast movers and allow the
TCAS to calculate evasive maneuvers if needed. My aircraft will definitely
be equipped with a transponder with Mode C.
Bob S.
On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:46, BobsV35B@aol.com wrote:
> Good Morning OC,
>
> I think we may have had this discussion before, but I do not feel a transp
onder is needed by everyone.
>
> Never actually measured the amount of airspace where a transponder is requ
ired, but I will bet a milk shake that the airspace where one is required ma
kes up way less the ten percent of the air space in the USA. Sure, for thos
e of us who live and fly in the shadow of places like O'Hare International A
irport, it is required equipment, but out in the boonies, it is just another
toy for most.
>
> As Always, It All Depends!
>
> For just piddling around in the hinterlands it is cost and weight that can
be done without.
>
> As for resale value, ANY electronics you install will be the fastest depre
ciating component in the airplane!
>
> Keep it simple and install nothing you do not need.
>
> The Street Price for a good working Garmin 496 is now about 800 bucks. Two
years ago it would bring 2400.
>
> Happy Skies,
>
> Old Bob
> AKA
> Bob Siegfried
> Stearman N3977A
> Downers Grove, Illinois
>
> In a message dated 10/12/2011 7:55:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bakerocb
@cox.net writes:
>
> 10/12/2011
>
> Hello Dan, You wrote: "....but a transponder is a "maybe"."
>
> Please change that "maybe" to a "yes".
>
> Having a transponder in an aircraft in this day and age is sort of like
> having turn signals in an automobile. You may get by OK for a time with ar
m
> signals in your automobile, but you will soon regret not having turn signa
ls
> installed.
>
> 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort t
o
> gather and understand knowledge."
>
> PS: Someday you, your widow, or your children will be selling that airplan
e.
> A prospective buyer will be discouraged by the lack of a transponder.
>
> =========================
==============
>
> Time: 06:07:18 PM PST US
> From: "Dan Sherburn" <dsherburn@att.net>
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design
>
> I'm building a Zenith CH750 (just started). The Zenith Builders group
> directed me to the AeroElectric Connection. I've ordered Bob's books and
> CD. I've utilized one of the sample drawings I'd like to use as the
> basis for an electrical design for my Zenith. To date, I'm planning on a
> very simple, day, VFR airplane. Continental 0200, no vacuum. As such,
> I'm looking for a very simple, proper electrical design for the plane.
> Attached is a straight forward electrical design taken from the
> AeroElectric Connection samples. Please review and comment. I've yet to
> detail avionics, but at a minimum I'll have a simple GPS and Comm (no
> Nav), but a transponder is a "maybe".
>
> I'm an Electrical Engineer, which doesn't mean alot in terms of Aircraft
> electrical systems; just that I'm comfortable with electrical control
> systems
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Dan Sherburn
> Michigan
>
>
>
>
>
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=========
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Good Morning Mike,
As I said before, It all depends.
Personally, I enjoy flying without contacting Flight Following. If the
weather is such that I think I may need to fly in cloud or in reduced
visibilities, I will file IFR. Sometimes I file IFR if the terrain is very
intimidating.
The vast majority of time I enjoy just getting by on my own.
Figure I am saving the taxpayers a little bit of money each time I avoid
taking Federal Aid.
However, I certainly encourage the use of flight following by anyone who
feels it adds to their comfort of flight. Just doesn't do anything for me.
Probably just part of my reactionary cantankerous nature I guess <G>
Managed to make it through some sixty-five years of flying and thirty-eight
thousand hours doing it that way.
Seems to work for me.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
In a message dated 10/18/2011 9:33:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com writes:
Bob,
Regarding "required" airspace for a transponder, you are correct.
However, another VERY valuable attribute of the transponder is having the
various airspace monitors (ATC guys) keep an eye on you with "Flight
Following".
For the few 'several hundred mile 'cross-countrys' I've been on, plus a
few shorter ones,
I've enjoyed the security of knowing the ATC guys were watching out for
me. The 5-6
x-country journeys I can think of were over mountains, or remote deserts.
Absolutely necessary? No. A little comforting? Very much so!
Mike Welch
On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:46 AM, _BobsV35B@aol.com_ (mailto:BobsV35B@aol.com)
wrote:
Good Morning OC,
I think we may have had this discussion before, but I do not feel a
transponder is needed by everyone.
Never actually measured the amount of airspace where a transponder is
required, but I will bet a milk shake that the airspace where one is required
makes up way less the ten percent of the air space in the USA. Sure, for
those of us who live and fly in the shadow of places like O'Hare
International Airport, it is required equipment, but out in the boonies, it is
just
another toy for most.
As Always, It All Depends!
For just piddling around in the hinterlands it is cost and weight that can
be done without.
As for resale value, ANY electronics you install will be the fastest
depreciating component in the airplane!
Keep it simple and install nothing you do not need.
The Street Price for a good working Garmin 496 is now about 800 bucks. Two
years ago it would bring 2400.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Stearman N3977A
Downers Grove, Illinois
In a message dated 10/12/2011 7:55:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
_bakerocb@cox.net_ (mailto:bakerocb@cox.net) writes:
(mailto:bakerocb@cox.net) >
10/12/2011
Hello Dan, You wrote: "....but a transponder is a "maybe"."
Please change that "maybe" to a "yes".
Having a transponder in an aircraft in this day and age is sort of like
having turn signals in an automobile. You may get by OK for a time with
arm
signals in your automobile, but you will soon regret not having turn
signals
installed.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort
to
gather and understand knowledge."
PS: Someday you, your widow, or your children will be selling that
airplane.
A prospective buyer will be discouraged by the lack of a transponder.
=======================================
Time: 06:07:18 PM PST US
From: "Dan Sherburn" <_dsherburn@att.net_ (mailto:dsherburn@att.net) >
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design
I'm building a Zenith CH750 (just started). The Zenith Builders group
directed me to the AeroElectric Connection. I've ordered Bob's books and
CD. I've utilized one of the sample drawings I'd like to use as the
basis for an electrical design for my Zenith. To date, I'm planning on a
very simple, day, VFR airplane. Continental 0200, no vacuum. As such,
I'm looking for a very simple, proper electrical design for the plane.
Attached is a straight forward electrical design taken from the
AeroElectric Connection samples. Please review and comment. I've yet to
detail avionics, but at a minimum I'll have a simple GPS and Comm (no
Nav), but a transponder is a "maybe".
I'm an Electrical Engineer, which doesn't mean alot in terms of Aircraft
electrical systems; just that I'm comfortable with electrical control
systems
Thanks in advance!
Dan Sherburn
Michigan
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Bob and all, I have a EIectronics Intermational clock that will ground a
line when it reaches 0:00. I would like to hook a chime to the line and run
it to my audio panel. Other than EI's tone generator, is there an easy way
to do this?
Thanks
Bill Shank RV6
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Good Morning Bob S.
And in what percentage of the US airspace will your Mode C transponder
supply traffic information and collision avoidance guidance to those fast
movers?
Some day, that system will work. Right now it is often just a provider of
false security. The best way to avoid a collision is to look out the
window and avoid flying where the fast movers who never look out the window are
prevalent.
As I have said so often. It All Depends!
I prefer to save my money until the product is ready for prime time.
Happy Skies,
Bob S.
Rarely abbreviated from Bob Siegfried.
Downers Grove, Illinois
In a message dated 10/18/2011 9:56:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
endspeed@yahoo.com writes:
I believe a functioning transponder with an altitude encoder is priceless
for enhancing safety. Modern collision avoidance systems use the
transponder and mode C read outs to make your presence known to fast movers and
allow the TCAS to calculate evasive maneuvers if needed. My aircraft will
definitely be equipped with a transponder with Mode C.
Bob S.
On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:46, _BobsV35B@aol.com_ (mailto:BobsV35B@aol.com)
wrote:
Good Morning OC,
I think we may have had this discussion before, but I do not feel a
transponder is needed by everyone.
Never actually measured the amount of airspace where a transponder is
required, but I will bet a milk shake that the airspace where one is required
makes up way less the ten percent of the air space in the USA. Sure, for
those of us who live and fly in the shadow of places like O'Hare
International Airport, it is required equipment, but out in the boonies, it is
just
another toy for most.
As Always, It All Depends!
For just piddling around in the hinterlands it is cost and weight that can
be done without.
As for resale value, ANY electronics you install will be the fastest
depreciating component in the airplane!
Keep it simple and install nothing you do not need.
The Street Price for a good working Garmin 496 is now about 800 bucks. Two
years ago it would bring 2400.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Stearman N3977A
Downers Grove, Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: EI clock chime |
At 10:36 AM 10/18/2011, you wrote:
>Bob and all, I have a EIectronics Intermational clock that will
>ground a line when it reaches 0:00. I would like to hook a chime to
>the line and run it to my audio panel. Other than EI's tone
>generator, is there an easy way to do this?
>
"Easy" is difficult to quantify. How handy
are you with the soldering iron? In the
audio systems chapter of the 'Connection
I illustrated a variety of tone generators
that could be adapted to various functions
in the well appointed airplane.
The SIMPLEST solution is an 8-pin PIC
uController with some pretty rudimentary
software. This approach could do about
any sort of 'noise' short of a string
quartet. The schematics I illustrated
are less versatile but can be fabricated
from rudimentary parts.
What would you like to tone to sound like?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: EI clock chime |
Hi Bill,
I used this line from the EI clock, but instead take it to a light on the
annunciator panel (design as supplied by another lister here). It lights u
p
a green 1 x 1/2" or so LED array.
James
On 18 October 2011 16:36, Bill Shank <WRShank@spoerrprecast.com> wrote:
> Bob and all, I have a EIectronics Intermational clock that will ground a
> line when it reaches 0:00. I would like to hook a chime to the line and r
un
> it to my audio panel. Other than EI=99s tone generator, is there an
easy way
> to do this?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks****
>
> ** **
>
> Bill Shank RV6****
>
> *
>
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> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EI clock chime |
Hi Bill,
I used this line from the EI clock, but instead take it to a light on the
annunciator panel (design as supplied by another lister here). It lights u
p
a green 1 x 1/2" or so LED array.
James
On 18 October 2011 16:36, Bill Shank <WRShank@spoerrprecast.com> wrote:
> Bob and all, I have a EIectronics Intermational clock that will ground a
> line when it reaches 0:00. I would like to hook a chime to the line and r
un
> it to my audio panel. Other than EI=99s tone generator, is there an
easy way
> to do this?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks****
>
> ** **
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| Subject: | Re: EI clock chime |
Hi Bill,
I used this line from the EI clock, but instead take it to a light on the
annunciator panel (design as supplied by another lister here). It lights u
p
a green 1 x 1/2" or so LED array.
James
On 18 October 2011 16:36, Bill Shank <WRShank@spoerrprecast.com> wrote:
> Bob and all, I have a EIectronics Intermational clock that will ground a
> line when it reaches 0:00. I would like to hook a chime to the line and r
un
> it to my audio panel. Other than EI=99s tone generator, is there an
easy way
> to do this?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks****
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <BobsV35B@aol.com> wrote:
> **
> Good Morning Bob S.
>
> And in what percentage of the US airspace will your Mode C transponder
> supply traffic information and collision avoidance guidance to those fast
> movers?
>
>
Right now, all of it.
TCAS provides interrogation from the aircraft in which it is installed. You
can be in a mountain valley, and that fast moving airplane will see you,
present your information to him, and provide him a traffic advisory or
resolution advisory. You won't know about him, but he'll know about you.
More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system
--
Andrew Zachar
andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com
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Bob, I'm thinking a ding dong sound, nothing that would startle you. I
will
take a look at the Connection tonight. I have no experience soldering
boards
but would like to learn.
Thanks
Bill Shank
_____
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: EI clock chime
At 10:36 AM 10/18/2011, you wrote:
Bob and all, I have a EIectronics Intermational clock that will ground a
line when it reaches 0:00. I would like to hook a chime to the line and
run
it to my audio panel. Other than EI=12s tone generator, is there an easy
way
to do this?
"Easy" is difficult to quantify. How handy
are you with the soldering iron? In the
audio systems chapter of the 'Connection
I illustrated a variety of tone generators
that could be adapted to various functions
in the well appointed airplane.
The SIMPLEST solution is an 8-pin PIC
uController with some pretty rudimentary
software. This approach could do about
any sort of 'noise' short of a string
quartet. The schematics I illustrated
are less versatile but can be fabricated
from rudimentary parts.
What would you like to tone to sound like?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: EI clock chime |
Hi Bill,
I used this line from the EI clock, but instead take it to a light on the
annunciator panel (design as supplied by another lister here). It lights u
p
a green 1 x 1/2" or so LED array.
James
On 18 October 2011 16:36, Bill Shank <WRShank@spoerrprecast.com> wrote:
> Bob and all, I have a EIectronics Intermational clock that will ground a
> line when it reaches 0:00. I would like to hook a chime to the line and r
un
> it to my audio panel. Other than EI=99s tone generator, is there an
easy way
> to do this?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks****
>
> ** **
>
> Bill Shank RV6****
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Good morning, Bob S.'
-
- TCAS works great right now. And it works-everywhere as in 100% of U.S
. airspace as well as over some God forsaken pieces of real estate worldwid
e.- It is strictly between your transponder/mode C-and the TCAS system
of the fast mover.- Many, many times professional flight crews search for
ATC called traffic and cannot find it!- Vigilance is a nice thing but it
definitely doesn't solve the problem of avoiding traffic you cannot find d
espite your best efforts.- See and avoid obviously has its limitations.
- But see and avoid aided by TCAS-is-much more effective.- Many tim
es crews using-TCAS can find traffic and if they can't, the TCAS can give
evasive maneuver guidance.- So, if you want to show up on the big jets T
CAS display, install a transponder with Mode C.- Good day to you.
-
Bob--S.
--- On Tue, 10/18/11, BobsV35B@aol.com <BobsV35B@aol.com> wrote:
From: BobsV35B@aol.com <BobsV35B@aol.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design
Good Morning Bob S.
-
And in what percentage of the US airspace will your Mode C transponder supp
ly traffic information and collision avoidance guidance to those fast mover
s?
-
Some day, that system will work. Right now it is often- just a provider o
f false security. The best way to avoid a collision is to look out the wind
ow and avoid flying where the fast movers who never look out the window are
prevalent.
-
As I have said so often. It All Depends!
-
I prefer to save my money until the product is ready for prime time.
-
Happy Skies,
-
Bob S.
-
Rarely abbreviated from Bob Siegfried.
Downers Grove, Illinois
-
In a message dated 10/18/2011 9:56:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, endspeed@
yahoo.com writes:
I believe a functioning transponder with an altitude encoder is priceless f
or enhancing safety. -Modern collision avoidance systems use the transpon
der and mode C read outs to make your presence known to fast movers and all
ow the TCAS to calculate evasive maneuvers if needed. -My aircraft will d
efinitely be equipped with a transponder with Mode C.
Bob S.
On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:46, BobsV35B@aol.com wrote:
Good Morning OC,
-
I think we may have had this discussion before, but I do not feel a transpo
nder is needed by everyone.
-
Never actually measured the amount of airspace where a transponder is requi
red, but I will bet a milk shake that the airspace where one is required ma
kes up way less the ten percent of the air space in the USA.- Sure, for t
hose of us who live and fly in the shadow of places like O'Hare Internation
al Airport, it is required equipment, but out in the boonies, it is just an
other toy for most.
-
As Always, It All Depends!
-
For just piddling around in the hinterlands it is cost and weight that can
be done without.
-
As for resale value,-ANY electronics you install will be the fastest depr
eciating component in the airplane!
-
Keep it simple and install nothing you do not need.
-
The Street Price for a good working Garmin 496 is now about 800 bucks. Two
years ago it would bring 2400.
-
Happy Skies,
-
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Stearman N3977A
Downers Grove, Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Good Afternoon Andrew,
That would be true if the fast mover happens to be an airliner or other
large aircraft that is properly equipped to do so, but very few GA airplanes
have that capability.
It is coming, but I feel that most Zenith 610 builders who intend to piddle
around VFR will not get substantial benefit from a transponder. If the
builder wishes to install one, more power to him, but I do not think the
degree of additional safety will be worth the trouble. Not sure how most Light
Sport Aircraft are flown, but low and slow and away from the major airways
are where I would be flying such an aircraft. I have quite a bit of
experience in a Legend Cub. It is equipped for IFR flight, though I have not yet
had occasion to file for such service, Since it is flown primarily in a high
density flight area, I encouraged the builder to install a transponder as
well as an IFR approvable GPS unit.
My Stearman has a transponder because it flies in an area where I think
having one is prudent. If I were piddling around out in the boonies, I would
have no radios at all. Who knows, I may even equip the Stearman for IFR
flight one of these days. Depends on how and where it is to be used
As I said in the message that started this string. It All Depends!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
In a message dated 10/18/2011 11:58:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <_BobsV35B@aol.com_
(mailto:BobsV35B@aol.com) > wrote:
Good Morning Bob S.
And in what percentage of the US airspace will your Mode C transponder
supply traffic information and collision avoidance guidance to those fast
movers?
Right now, all of it.
TCAS provides interrogation from the aircraft in which it is installed.
You can be in a mountain valley, and that fast moving airplane will see you,
present your information to him, and provide him a traffic advisory or
resolution advisory. You won't know about him, but he'll know about you.
More here:
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system)
--
Andrew Zachar
_andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com_ (mailto:andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com)
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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| Subject: | 'Electric Connection |
Bob
I tried to email you from your web site bit it would not go though.
Thanks for the fast delivery of the 'Electric Connection
I ordered the book and CD combo. Does the CD ship separately?
I have not received the CD.
Let me know what you find out.
Thanks
-Rob
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
That's fair, but on a regular basis, whether IFR or VFR, we see someone on
the TCAS box before ATC alerts us. Sometimes, they're too busy to give us
the advisory.
Having a transponder does not always just provide me access to airspace that
requires it. It also allows people to see and avoid me with something other
than their eyes.
Also, keep in mind that the majority of mid-air collisions don't happen
along "major airways," but rather in the vicinity of an airport, where many
types of aircraft convene.
It's a tool, sometimes operationally required. I'm just pointing out that
like landing/taxi/strobe lights, it is sometimes about helping other people
see YOU, even though they aren't required.
I'll be putting a mode C transponder in my RV-7, but I fully respect your
decision not to. Just making sure people think of the other side of the
transmit/recieve transaction.
-az
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:50 PM, <BobsV35B@aol.com> wrote:
> **
> Good Afternoon Andrew,
>
> That would be true if the fast mover happens to be an airliner or other
> large aircraft that is properly equipped to do so, but very few GA airplanes
> have that capability.
>
> It is coming, but I feel that most Zenith 610 builders who intend to piddle
> around VFR will not get substantial benefit from a transponder. If the
> builder wishes to install one, more power to him, but I do not think the
> degree of additional safety will be worth the trouble. Not sure how most
> Light Sport Aircraft are flown, but low and slow and away from the major
> airways are where I would be flying such an aircraft. I have quite a bit of
> experience in a Legend Cub. It is equipped for IFR flight, though I have not
> yet had occasion to file for such service, Since it is flown primarily in a
> high density flight area, I encouraged the builder to install a transponder
> as well as an IFR approvable GPS unit.
>
> My Stearman has a transponder because it flies in an area where I think
> having one is prudent. If I were piddling around out in the boonies, I would
> have no radios at all. Who knows, I may even equip the Stearman for IFR
> flight one of these days. Depends on how and where it is to be used
>
> As I said in the message that started this string. It All Depends!
>
> Happy Skies,
>
> Old Bob
>
> In a message dated 10/18/2011 11:58:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com writes:
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <BobsV35B@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Good Morning Bob S.
>>
>> And in what percentage of the US airspace will your Mode C transponder
>> supply traffic information and collision avoidance guidance to those fast
>> movers?
>>
>>
>>
> Right now, all of it.
>
> TCAS provides interrogation from the aircraft in which it is installed. You
> can be in a mountain valley, and that fast moving airplane will see you,
> present your information to him, and provide him a traffic advisory or
> resolution advisory. You won't know about him, but he'll know about you.
>
> More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system
>
> --
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> andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Good afternoon Bob S.,
Not to belabor a point but your concept of major airports and traffic is n
ot necessarily 100% correct these days. I retired from a major airline and w
e flew into uncontrolled airports! VFR or IFR, it did not matter. So if yo
u fly your Cub into uncontrolled fields, you could find yourself eyeball to e
yeball with a rather large, fast object. No doubt, if you stay well off the
beaten path of most traffic, you will have less chance of colliding. But I
flew into uncontrolled mountain airports and smaller uncontrolled southeast
ern airports for a major. How much farther off the beaten track could one g
et? And often our approaches brought us quite low over bugsmasher airports n
earby. Many times, I wished TCAS traffic had an altitude readout but the tr
affic had no mode C. And the non transponder equipped aircraft never even s
howed up at all. As I said, my aircraft will have a transponder with mode C
.
Best regards,
Another Bob S.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 18, 2011, at 12:50, BobsV35B@aol.com wrote:
> Good Afternoon Andrew,
>
> That would be true if the fast mover happens to be an airliner or other la
rge aircraft that is properly equipped to do so, but very few GA airplanes h
ave that capability.
>
> It is coming, but I feel that most Zenith 610 builders who intend to piddl
e around VFR will not get substantial benefit from a transponder. If the bui
lder wishes to install one, more power to him, but I do not think the degree
of additional safety will be worth the trouble. Not sure how most Light Spo
rt Aircraft are flown, but low and slow and away from the major airways are w
here I would be flying such an aircraft. I have quite a bit of experience i
n a Legend Cub. It is equipped for IFR flight, though I have not yet had occ
asion to file for such service, Since it is flown primarily in a high densit
y flight area, I encouraged the builder to install a transponder as well as a
n IFR approvable GPS unit.
>
> My Stearman has a transponder because it flies in an area where I think ha
ving one is prudent. If I were piddling around out in the boonies, I would h
ave no radios at all. Who knows, I may even equip the Stearman for IFR fligh
t one of these days. Depends on how and where it is to be used
>
> As I said in the message that started this string. It All Depends!
>
> Happy Skies,
>
> Old Bob
>
> In a message dated 10/18/2011 11:58:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, andrew.
d.zachar@gmail.com writes:
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <BobsV35B@aol.com> wrote:
> Good Morning Bob S.
>
> And in what percentage of the US airspace will your Mode C transponder sup
ply traffic information and collision avoidance guidance to those fast mover
s?
>
>
>
> Right now, all of it.
>
> TCAS provides interrogation from the aircraft in which it is installed. Yo
u can be in a mountain valley, and that fast moving airplane will see you, p
resent your information to him, and provide him a traffic advisory or resolu
tion advisory. You won't know about him, but he'll know about you.
>
> More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system
>
> --
> Andrew Zachar
> andrew.d.zachar@gmail.com
>
>
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ww.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Actually anyone with a $400. (and up) traffic device such as the little
PCAS will be alerted to your presence if you have a transponder. A
collision with another light aircraft tends to be just as fatal as with
a big one. Many times I've avoided another light aircraft that obviously
did not see me. And many times I would not have seen the other guy
either if it wasn't for the PCAS insisting he was there. The PCAS is
passive but there are almost always overflying big guys with TCAS
triggering every other transponder within a couple of hundred miles. So
these things work even down low in the boonies and provide significant
safety improvement IMO. I rarely use my transponder for ATC purposes but
it is always on.
Ken
On 18/10/2011 3:11 PM, Robert Sultzbach wrote:
> Good afternoon Bob S.,
>
> Not to belabor a point but your concept of major airports and traffic is
> not necessarily 100% correct these days. I retired from a major airline
> and we flew into uncontrolled airports! VFR or IFR, it did not matter.
> So if you fly your Cub into uncontrolled fields, you could find yourself
> eyeball to eyeball with a rather large, fast object. No doubt, if you
> stay well off the beaten path of most traffic, you will have less chance
> of colliding. But I flew into uncontrolled mountain airports and smaller
> uncontrolled southeastern airports for a major. How much farther off the
> beaten track could one get? And often our approaches brought us quite
> low over bugsmasher airports nearby. Many times, I wished TCAS traffic
> had an altitude readout but the traffic had no mode C. And the non
> transponder equipped aircraft never even showed up at all. As I said, my
> aircraft will have a transponder with mode C.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Another Bob S.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
Good Evening Ken,
Well, it is certain that my opinion IS in the minority.
It so happens that I currently own and fly four airplanes and all of them
are equipped with Mode C transponders.
I see that there was "Another Bob S." that commented. I did not receive
his message though it is copied in your message. I also flew for a "major"
for 38 years. I think I am aware of where air carriers are likely to be
found.
The original comment was triggered by a pilot who is starting to build a
Zenith. Some of you seem to feel that having a transponder installed is
almost mandatory. I am not of that opinion.
Does not make me right, but it IS my opinion and I just wanted to let the
Zenith builder know that if he is primarily interested in flying low and
slow way out in the boonies, the odds of his needing a transponder are still
pretty slim. We lose more airplanes due to pilot error than to any other
cause. Those errors are made by thirty year airline pilots just like they are
made by student pilots. We cannot buy safety just by buying toys. My
contention is that the decision to equip an airplane with every bell and whistle
should be made based on where and how that aircraft is going to be
operated. Ya can't buy safety, ya gotta learn how to stay within your personal
and
your equipment's limitations.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Downers Grove, Illinois
Stearman, Turbo Normalized Bonanza, Normally aspirated Bonanza, and a
Pacer Couple more in the bowels of the hangar that may be rebuilt someday. <G>
In a message dated 10/18/2011 4:05:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
klehman@albedo.net writes:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Actually anyone with a $400. (and up) traffic device such as the little
PCAS will be alerted to your presence if you have a transponder. A
collision with another light aircraft tends to be just as fatal as with
a big one. Many times I've avoided another light aircraft that obviously
did not see me. And many times I would not have seen the other guy
either if it wasn't for the PCAS insisting he was there. The PCAS is
passive but there are almost always overflying big guys with TCAS
triggering every other transponder within a couple of hundred miles. So
these things work even down low in the boonies and provide significant
safety improvement IMO. I rarely use my transponder for ATC purposes but
it is always on.
Ken
On 18/10/2011 3:11 PM, Robert Sultzbach wrote:
> Good afternoon Bob S.,
>
> Not to belabor a point but your concept of major airports and traffic is
> not necessarily 100% correct these days. I retired from a major airline
> and we flew into uncontrolled airports! VFR or IFR, it did not matter.
> So if you fly your Cub into uncontrolled fields, you could find yourself
> eyeball to eyeball with a rather large, fast object. No doubt, if you
> stay well off the beaten path of most traffic, you will have less chance
> of colliding. But I flew into uncontrolled mountain airports and smaller
> uncontrolled southeastern airports for a major. How much farther off the
> beaten track could one get? And often our approaches brought us quite
> low over bugsmasher airports nearby. Many times, I wished TCAS traffic
> had an altitude readout but the traffic had no mode C. And the non
> transponder equipped aircraft never even showed up at all. As I said, my
> aircraft will have a transponder with mode C.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Another Bob S.
>
>
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| Subject: | Fat terminal size |
Anyone know the fat terminal lug size on the B and C S702-1 starter solenoid?
The drawing on their website shows the sizes of the small terminal but not the
big ones. I'm traveling so cannot go to the hanger to measure them myself.
Thanks.
--------
John
Keller, TX
RV-8 N247TD
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| Subject: | Re: Fat terminal size |
5/16ths studs.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bubblehead
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:49 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Fat terminal size
Anyone know the fat terminal lug size on the B and C S702-1 starter
solenoid? The drawing on their website shows the sizes of the small
terminal but not the big ones. I'm traveling so cannot go to the hanger to
measure them myself. Thanks.
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Keller, TX
RV-8 N247TD
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| Subject: | Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
You are right, a transponder is only required in class A, B, and C airspace.
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
BobsV35B@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design
Good Evening Ken,
Well, it is certain that my opinion IS in the minority.
It so happens that I currently own and fly four airplanes and all of them
are equipped with Mode C transponders.
I see that there was "Another Bob S." that commented. I did not receive his
message though it is copied in your message. I also flew for a "major" for
38 years. I think I am aware of where air carriers are likely to be found.
The original comment was triggered by a pilot who is starting to build a
Zenith. Some of you seem to feel that having a transponder installed is
almost mandatory. I am not of that opinion.
Does not make me right, but it IS my opinion and I just wanted to let the
Zenith builder know that if he is primarily interested in flying low and
slow way out in the boonies, the odds of his needing a transponder are still
pretty slim. We lose more airplanes due to pilot error than to any other
cause. Those errors are made by thirty year airline pilots just like they
are made by student pilots. We cannot buy safety just by buying toys. My
contention is that the decision to equip an airplane with every bell and
whistle should be made based on where and how that aircraft is going to be
operated. Ya can't buy safety, ya gotta learn how to stay within your
personal and your equipment's limitations.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Downers Grove, Illinois
Stearman, Turbo Normalized Bonanza, Normally aspirated Bonanza, and a Pacer
Couple more in the bowels of the hangar that may be rebuilt someday. <G>
In a message dated 10/18/2011 4:05:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
klehman@albedo.net writes:
Actually anyone with a $400. (and up) traffic device such as the little
PCAS will be alerted to your presence if you have a transponder. A
collision with another light aircraft tends to be just as fatal as with
a big one. Many times I've avoided another light aircraft that obviously
did not see me. And many times I would not have seen the other guy
either if it wasn't for the PCAS insisting he was there. The PCAS is
passive but there are almost always overflying big guys with TCAS
triggering every other transponder within a couple of hundred miles. So
these things work even down low in the boonies and provide significant
safety improvement IMO. I rarely use my transponder for ATC purposes but
it is always on.
Ken
On 18/10/2011 3:11 PM, Robert Sultzbach wrote:
> Good afternoon Bob S.,
>
> Not to belabor a point but your concept of major airports and traffic is
> not necessarily 100% correct these days. I retired from a major airline
> and we flew into uncontrolled airports! VFR or IFR, it did not matter.
> So if you fly your Cub into uncontrolled fields, you could find yourself
> eyeball to eyeball with a rather large, fast object. No doubt, if you
> stay well off the beaten path of most traffic, you will have less chance
> of colliding. But I flew into uncontrolled mountain airports and smaller
> uncontrolled southeastern airports for a major. How much farther off the
> beaten track could one get? And often our approaches brought us quite
> low over bugsmasher airports nearby. Many times, I wished TCAS traffic
> had an altitude readout but the traffic had no mode C. And the non
> transponder equipped aircraft never even showed up at all. As I said, my
> aircraft will have a transponder with mode C.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Another Bob S.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design |
I'm sure you are aware, but that's not the only airspace where a
transponder is required.
91.215 if interested in the details...
On 10/18/11 8:17 PM, Lynn A Riggs wrote:
>
> You are right, a transponder is only required in class A, B, and C
> airspace.
>
> *From:*owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *BobsV35B@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:51 PM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Tentative Zenith Electrical Design
>
> Good Evening Ken,
>
> Well, it is certain that my opinion IS in the minority.
>
> It so happens that I currently own and fly four airplanes and all of
> them are equipped with Mode C transponders.
>
> I see that there was "Another Bob S." that commented. I did not
> receive his message though it is copied in your message. I also flew
> for a "major" for 38 years. I think I am aware of where air carriers
> are likely to be found.
>
> The original comment was triggered by a pilot who is starting to build
> a Zenith. Some of you seem to feel that having a transponder
> installed is almost mandatory. I am not of that opinion.
>
> Does not make me right, but it IS my opinion and I just wanted to let
> the Zenith builder know that if he is primarily interested in flying
> low and slow way out in the boonies, the odds of his needing a
> transponder are still pretty slim. We lose more airplanes due to pilot
> error than to any other cause. Those errors are made by thirty year
> airline pilots just like they are made by student pilots. We cannot
> buy safety just by buying toys. My contention is that the decision to
> equip an airplane with every bell and whistle should be made based on
> where and how that aircraft is going to be operated. Ya can't buy
> safety, ya gotta learn how to stay within your personal and your
> equipment's limitations.
>
> Happy Skies,
>
> Old Bob
>
> AKA
>
> Bob Siegfried
>
> Downers Grove, Illinois
>
> Stearman, Turbo Normalized Bonanza, Normally aspirated Bonanza, and a
> Pacer Couple more in the bowels of the hangar that may be rebuilt
> someday. <G>
>
> In a message dated 10/18/2011 4:05:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> klehman@albedo.net writes:
>
>
> Actually anyone with a $400. (and up) traffic device such as the
> little
> PCAS will be alerted to your presence if you have a transponder. A
> collision with another light aircraft tends to be just as fatal as
> with
> a big one. Many times I've avoided another light aircraft that
> obviously
> did not see me. And many times I would not have seen the other guy
> either if it wasn't for the PCAS insisting he was there. The PCAS is
> passive but there are almost always overflying big guys with TCAS
> triggering every other transponder within a couple of hundred
> miles. So
> these things work even down low in the boonies and provide
> significant
> safety improvement IMO. I rarely use my transponder for ATC
> purposes but
> it is always on.
> Ken
>
> On 18/10/2011 3:11 PM, Robert Sultzbach wrote:
> > Good afternoon Bob S.,
> >
> > Not to belabor a point but your concept of major airports and
> traffic is
> > not necessarily 100% correct these days. I retired from a major
> airline
> > and we flew into uncontrolled airports! VFR or IFR, it did not
> matter.
> > So if you fly your Cub into uncontrolled fields, you could find
> yourself
> > eyeball to eyeball with a rather large, fast object. No doubt, if you
> > stay well off the beaten path of most traffic, you will have less
> chance
> > of colliding. But I flew into uncontrolled mountain airports and
> smaller
> > uncontrolled southeastern airports for a major. How much farther
> off the
> > beaten track could one get? And often our approaches brought us quite
> > low over bugsmasher airports nearby. Many times, I wished TCAS
> traffic
> > had an altitude readout but the traffic had no mode C. And the non
> > transponder equipped aircraft never even showed up at all. As I
> said, my
> > aircraft will have a transponder with mode C.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Another Bob S.
> >
> >
>
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At 12:59 PM 10/18/2011, you wrote:
>Bob
>I tried to email you from your web site bit it would not go though.
>Thanks for the fast delivery of the 'Electric Connection
I've got a bug in the script that manages my
website email filter. Need to get that fixed too.
>I ordered the book and CD combo. Does the CD ship separately?
>I have not received the CD.
My bad. It should have been in the envelope
with the book. I'll get it out in the morning.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | 'Electric Connection |
Thanks Bob.
No worries,
Been lurking for years, now it's time to get to work on the electron
herding.
There is so much information in your book.
Thanks again
-Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 'Electric Connection
--> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
At 12:59 PM 10/18/2011, you wrote:
>Bob
>I tried to email you from your web site bit it would not go though.
>Thanks for the fast delivery of the 'Electric Connection
I've got a bug in the script that manages my
website email filter. Need to get that fixed too.
>I ordered the book and CD combo. Does the CD ship separately?
>I have not received the CD.
My bad. It should have been in the envelope
with the book. I'll get it out in the morning.
Bob . . .
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