---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/11/11: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:15 AM - Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists (Matt Dralle) 1. 07:22 AM - Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw lock (jayb) 2. 08:16 AM - Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw lock (BobsV35B@aol.com) 3. 08:41 AM - Re: Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw lock (DeWitt (Dee) Whittington) 4. 10:49 AM - antenna connections (messydeer) 5. 02:27 PM - Re: Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw l... (BobsV35B@aol.com) 6. 02:55 PM - Re: Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw l... (DeWitt (Dee) Whittington) 7. 05:55 PM - Re: antenna connections (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 8. 06:35 PM - Re: antenna connections (messydeer) 9. 09:21 PM - Re: Re: antenna connections (Robert L. 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Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:47 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw lock From: "jayb" If you're using Navworx ADS600B, you should note that the DB37 comes with an unusual connector arrangement consisting of posts and sliding lock retainer (see page 15 of attached pdf). I have never seen one of these before and was stumped on how exactly to get it attached. Note that the screws on the plug have tiny ridges that lock onto the retainer. The posts are mounted on the box. It's all very obvious once you see it work, but not so much when you're handed a pile of parts. Cheers, Jay Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357516#357516 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/itt_cannon_d_sub_acc_update_208.pdf ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:07 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw lock Good Morning Jay, Those retainers are heavily used on many older Bendix-King components. I love them. Easy to fasten and easy to unfasten yet they hold very well. Just on opinion! Happy Skies, Old Bob In a message dated 11/11/2011 9:23:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com writes: --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "jayb" If you're using Navworx ADS600B, you should note that the DB37 comes with an unusual connector arrangement consisting of posts and sliding lock retainer (see page 15 of attached pdf). I have never seen one of these before and was stumped on how exactly to get it attached. Note that the screws on the plug have tiny ridges that lock onto the retainer. The posts are mounted on the box. It's all very obvious once you see it work, but not so much when you're handed a pile of parts. Cheers, Jay Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357516#357516 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/itt_cannon_d_sub_acc_update_208.pdf ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw lock From: "DeWitt (Dee) Whittington" Bob, what is the name of this connector? Dee On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:12 AM, wrote: > ** > Good Morning Jay, > > Those retainers are heavily used on many older Bendix-King components. I > love them. Easy to fasten and easy to unfasten yet they hold very well. > Just on opinion! > > Happy Skies, > > Old Bob > > In a message dated 11/11/2011 9:23:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, > jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com writes: > > > If you're using Navworx ADS600B, you should note that the DB37 comes with > an unusual connector arrangement consisting of posts and sliding lock > retainer (see page 15 of attached pdf). I have never seen one of these > before and was stumped on how exactly to get it attached. Note that the > screws on the plug have tiny ridges that lock onto the retainer. The posts > are mounted on the box. It's all very obvious once you see it work, but not > so much when you're handed a pile of parts. > > Cheers, > Jay > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357516#357516 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/itt_cannon_d_sub_acc_update_20 bsp; > (And Get Some AWESOME FREE o find ifts bsp; lder's LP you for ; > -Matt Dralle, List = Use ilities ay - > MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site p; > > > * > > * > > -- DeWitt Whittington www.VirginiaFlyIn.org Building Glasair Sportsman with 3 partners ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:42 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: antenna connections From: "messydeer" I read through stuff Bob has written about making VHF antennas. Here's how I understand it. Coaxial cable has a center conductor and outer shield. The connector at the end of the cable connects the shield to the shell of this female connector, which gets screwed onto the male threaded barrel of the antenna mount. This part of the antenna mount is connected to the metal skin, which forms the ground plane. The inner conductor wire connects to the inner conductor of the antenna mount, which is isolated from the surrounding male threaded barrel and hex portion that mounts inside the aircraft. The inner conductor of the mount is electrically connected to the 3/8" male threaded stud, which is also connected to the adapter, bolt, and antenna whisker. To install this ebay mount, it looks like I'd remove the 3/8" female threaded hex barrel adapter, star washer, and what looks like an insulating shoulder washer. From the inside of the aircraft, insert the 3/8" male stud through the doubler and skin, then slide the shoulder washer and star washer on from the outside. Tighten the hex barrel adapter over the stud, then the bolt/antenna whisker. If I've understood it correctly, there wouldn't then be an issue with lock-washer centering, which I didn't understand in the first place. Thanks, Dan -------- Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357540#357540 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ebay_antenna_connector_outside_124.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:21 PM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw l... Good Evening Dee, Near as I can tell it is called a Sliding Lock Retainer Assembly by Cannon. As was said earlier, it is on page fifteen of their catalog. See: _http://forums.matronics.com//files/itt_cannon_d_sub_acc_update_208.pdf_ (http://forums.matronics.com//files/itt_cannon_d_sub_acc_update_208.pdf) Happy Skies, Old Bob In a message dated 11/11/2011 10:42:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, dee.whittington@gmail.com writes: Bob, what is the name of this connector? Dee On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:12 AM, <_BobsV35B@aol.com_ (mailto:BobsV35B@aol.com) > wrote: Good Morning Jay, Those retainers are heavily used on many older Bendix-King components. I love them. Easy to fasten and easy to unfasten yet they hold very well. Just on opinion! Happy Skies, Old Bob In a message dated 11/11/2011 9:23:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, _jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com_ (mailto:jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com) writes: (mailto:jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com) > If you're using Navworx ADS600B, you should note that the DB37 comes with an unusual connector arrangement consisting of posts and sliding lock retainer (see page 15 of attached pdf). I have never seen one of these before and was stumped on how exactly to get it attached. Note that the screws on the plug have tiny ridges that lock onto the retainer. The posts are mounted on the box. It's all very obvious once you see it work, but not so much when you're handed a pile of parts. Cheers, Jay ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Navworx... d-sub uses sliding lock retainer / screw l... From: "DeWitt (Dee) Whittington" Thanks, Bob. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:23 PM, wrote: > ** > Good Evening Dee, > > Near as I can tell it is called a Sliding Lock Retainer Assembly by > Cannon. As was said earlier, it is on page fifteen of their catalog. > > See: > http://forums.matronics.com//files/itt_cannon_d_sub_acc_update_208.pdf > > Happy Skies, > > Old Bob > > > In a message dated 11/11/2011 10:42:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, > dee.whittington@gmail.com writes: > > Bob, what is the name of this connector? > > Dee > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:12 AM, wrote: > >> ** >> Good Morning Jay, >> >> Those retainers are heavily used on many older Bendix-King components. I >> love them. Easy to fasten and easy to unfasten yet they hold very well. >> Just on opinion! >> >> Happy Skies, >> >> Old Bob >> >> In a message dated 11/11/2011 9:23:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com writes: >> >> >> If you're using Navworx ADS600B, you should note that the DB37 comes with >> an unusual connector arrangement consisting of posts and sliding lock >> retainer (see page 15 of attached pdf). I have never seen one of these >> before and was stumped on how exactly to get it attached. Note that the >> screws on the plug have tiny ridges that lock onto the retainer. The posts >> are mounted on the box. It's all very obvious once you see it work, but not >> so much when you're handed a pile of parts. >> >> Cheers, >> Jay >> >> >> >> * > > * > > -- DeWitt Whittington www.VirginiaFlyIn.org Building Glasair Sportsman with 3 partners ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:18 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: antenna connections At 12:44 PM 11/11/2011, you wrote: > >To install this ebay mount, it looks like I'd remove the 3/8" female >threaded hex barrel adapter, star washer, and what looks like an >insulating shoulder washer. From the inside of the aircraft, insert >the 3/8" male stud through the doubler and skin, then slide the >shoulder washer and star washer on from the outside. Tighten the hex >barrel adapter over the stud, then the bolt/antenna whisker. > >If I've understood it correctly, there wouldn't then be an issue >with lock-washer centering, which I didn't understand in the first place. There's an article on the materials and process at: http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Antennas/DIY_Comm_Ant/DIY_Comm.html I modify the adapter in a lathe to provide a centering shoulder for the lock-washer. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:32 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: antenna connections From: "messydeer" Yes, thanks, Bob. I should have mentioned that's where I got most of my info. This ebay mount has a so239 to connect to, which would take a pl259 on the cable end. I'm thinking of getting that mount from ebay and the cable from you. Would you have a pl259 to go onto that? Depending on where I locate the antenna, I might need a 90 on one or both cable ends. If you don't have those, would I be able to send them to you? Speaking of antenna location, I've heard it's not good to get the xpdr and com antennas closer together than 5', 3', or 22". Could you shed some light on this? One last thing. The 1/8" SS piano wire (or welding rod?) can be soldered to the bolt with my Kester 44? Thanks, Dan -------- Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357601#357601 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:43 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: antenna connections At 08:32 PM 11/11/2011, you wrote: > >Yes, thanks, Bob. I should have mentioned that's where I got most of my info. Okay, good. > This ebay mount has a so239 to connect to, which would take a > pl259 on the cable end. I'm thinking of getting that mount from > ebay and the cable from you. Would you have a pl259 to go onto > that? Depending on where I locate the antenna, I might need a 90 on > one or both cable ends. If you don't have those, would I be able to > send them to you? I have rt-angle BNC connectors. Suggest you put a UHF to BNC adapter on the antenna mount Emacs! and use right-angle BNC's to finish up the task. I can craft cables to your needs. >Speaking of antenna location, I've heard it's not good to get the >xpdr and com antennas closer together than 5', 3', or 22". Could you >shed some light on this? Most transponder antennas go on the belly and comm antennas on top. If both are on belly, then just get them as far apart as possible. >One last thing. The 1/8" SS piano wire (or welding rod?) can be >soldered to the bolt with my Kester 44? No, silver solder. Tin lead is too weak and won't flow to stainless. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:05 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: antenna connections From: "messydeer" Thanks :-) I'll be mounting both xpdr and com antennas on the bottom. I could get 36" between them without a problem. I looked over silver soldering. Had thought that was an old saying for 'soldering'. Another option would be to get a SS whip antenna, like this from Radio Shack: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102428&CAWELAID=107599032 It's 102" but has a 3/8-24 fitting. Cutting it down would be no problem, but putting a 45 bend could be. I assume this would be a tube that could kink. ACS has one for about $20, but I thought I read someone say it didn't have the standard fitting, which seems odd. I'll have to check with them. -------- Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357610#357610 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.