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1. 02:04 AM - Re: Re: Starter contactors (Jan de Jong)
2. 09:18 AM - Re: Re: Starter contactors (Carlos Trigo)
3. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Starter contactors (Noel Loveys)
4. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Starter contactors (Jeff Luckey)
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| Subject: | Re: Starter contactors |
Hi Joe,
> I had a great idea. Wire two starter contactors in series. They will be energized
by two momentary push button switches, one labeled and in plain sight on
the panel, the other switch hidden. When the barefoot bandit attempts to steal
my plane, he will turn on the master and push the start button. He will hear
one contactor pull in and assume there is an electrical problem because the
engine does not crank. So he will go find another plane that someone left the
key in.
> I will not need a key or an expensive key switch because only I will know how
to start the engine (along with everyone else on Aeroelectric). And I will
not have to worry about losing the key or forgetting it. Has anyone ever driven
all of the way to the airport, only to realize the aircraft key was still
at home?
> Joe
>
Interesting.
1. You may need three pushbuttons (or more hands): two switches that
individually should not work (test) and a third that operates both relays.
2. Light weight Rotax relays (if procured from Rotax) may not be cheap.
Regards,
Jan de Jong
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| Subject: | Re: Starter contactors |
Joe
I hope no aircraft thief reads this, or he will look out for your other
switch...
Coudn=92t resist..
Good idea!
Carlos
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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> Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 20 de Dezembro de 2011 2:12
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> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Starter contactors
>
<fran4sew@banyanol.com>
>
> I had a great idea. Wire two starter contactors in series. They will
be
energized by
> two momentary push button switches, one labeled and in plain sight on
the
panel,
> the other switch hidden. When the barefoot bandit attempts to steal
my
plane, he
> will turn on the master and push the start button. He will hear one
contactor pull in
> and assume there is an electrical problem because the engine does not
crank. So
> he will go find another plane that someone left the key in.
> I will not need a key or an expensive key switch because only I will
know how to
> start the engine (along with everyone else on Aeroelectric). And I
will
not have to
> worry about losing the key or forgetting it. Has anyone ever driven
all
of the way to
> the airport, only to realize the aircraft key was still at home?
> Joe
>
> --------
> Joe Gores
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Starter contactors |
Many aircraft do not have any keys. Even aircraft down to the size of the
venerable DHC beaver. Of course if you steal one of those you better know
what you are doing.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan de
Jong
Sent: December 20, 2011 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Starter contactors
Hi Joe,
> I had a great idea. Wire two starter contactors in series. They will be
energized by two momentary push button switches, one labeled and in plain
sight on the panel, the other switch hidden. When the barefoot bandit
attempts to steal my plane, he will turn on the master and push the start
button. He will hear one contactor pull in and assume there is an
electrical problem because the engine does not crank. So he will go find
another plane that someone left the key in.
> I will not need a key or an expensive key switch because only I will
know how to start the engine (along with everyone else on Aeroelectric).
And I will not have to worry about losing the key or forgetting it. Has
anyone ever driven all of the way to the airport, only to realize the
aircraft key was still at home?
> Joe
>
Interesting.
1. You may need three pushbuttons (or more hands): two switches that
individually should not work (test) and a third that operates both relays.
2. Light weight Rotax relays (if procured from Rotax) may not be cheap.
Regards,
Jan de Jong
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| Subject: | Re: Starter contactors |
Save your money for the second solenoid - Just wire your 2 pushbuttons in
series for the solenoid coil.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel
Loveys
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 17:30
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Starter contactors
Many aircraft do not have any keys. Even aircraft down to the size of the
venerable DHC beaver. Of course if you steal one of those you better know
what you are doing.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan de
Jong
Sent: December 20, 2011 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Starter contactors
Hi Joe,
> I had a great idea. Wire two starter contactors in series. They will be
energized by two momentary push button switches, one labeled and in plain
sight on the panel, the other switch hidden. When the barefoot bandit
attempts to steal my plane, he will turn on the master and push the start
button. He will hear one contactor pull in and assume there is an
electrical problem because the engine does not crank. So he will go find
another plane that someone left the key in.
> I will not need a key or an expensive key switch because only I will
know how to start the engine (along with everyone else on Aeroelectric).
And I will not have to worry about losing the key or forgetting it. Has
anyone ever driven all of the way to the airport, only to realize the
aircraft key was still at home?
> Joe
>
Interesting.
1. You may need three pushbuttons (or more hands): two switches that
individually should not work (test) and a third that operates both relays.
2. Light weight Rotax relays (if procured from Rotax) may not be cheap.
Regards,
Jan de Jong
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