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1. 09:38 AM - HID light noise (Sheldon Olesen)
2. 10:39 AM - Re: HID light noise (Tim Olson)
3. 10:39 AM - Re: HID light noise (Dave Saylor)
4. 11:04 AM - Re: HID light noise (Dave Saylor)
5. 12:07 PM - Re: HID light noise (Sheldon Olesen)
6. 04:10 PM - Re: HID light noise (Brantel)
7. 04:39 PM - Re: (Ken Lehman)
8. 05:16 PM - Re: (Bob Meyers)
9. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: HID light noise (Dave Saylor)
10. 07:37 PM - Re: HID light noise (Brantel)
11. 07:45 PM - Falcon amp/volt gauge hookup (bnelson79)
12. 09:08 PM - Re: Falcon amp/volt gauge hookup (The Kuffels)
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Hi Bob,
I've got a set of 50w HID lights that are extremely noisy. There is so much static
on either the SL 30 or the 480 that they are practically useless. I don't
dare turn them on in a high traffic area because of the poor radio reception
I get when they are on. A hand held VHF radio also picks up the static and the
amount of static varies with the distance from the lights. The vendor is
Plane Lights and they said they would take them back if I can't solve the problem.
I tried their solution of running a ground directly to the battery and that
didn't help at all. Is this a winnable battle worth the trouble or should
I just send them back? Is there anything simple that can be done?
Thanks!
Sheldon Olesen
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Subject: | Re: HID light noise |
Are they DS1 style? Those are supposed to be less noisy. That's how I ended up
with Duckworks.
Tim
On Jan 12, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I've got a set of 50w HID lights that are extremely noisy. There is so much
static on either the SL 30 or the 480 that they are practically useless. I don't
dare turn them on in a high traffic area because of the poor radio reception
I get when they are on. A hand held VHF radio also picks up the static and
the amount of static varies with the distance from the lights. The vendor is
Plane Lights and they said they would take them back if I can't solve the problem.
I tried their solution of running a ground directly to the battery and
that didn't help at all. Is this a winnable battle worth the trouble or should
I just send them back? Is there anything simple that can be done?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sheldon Olesen
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: HID light noise |
I have the same problem with Plane Light HIDs. Love the lights, hate the
noise. My SL-30 is unusable with the lights on.
I've tried all the simple fixes including making a filter per someone's
instructions (I forget who but it was on this list). The filter consisted
of a choke and capacitor. I followed the instructions explicitly but the
filter didn't have any effect on the noise.
I think I'm asking alot since the comm antenna on the radio that's affected
is a Bob Archer in the wingtip right next to the light. The other comm is
has a belly-mounted antenna that isn't affected at all. Good thing
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>wrote:
> saolesen@sirentel.net>
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I've got a set of 50w HID lights that are extremely noisy. There is so
> much static on either the SL 30 or the 480 that they are practically
> useless. I don't dare turn them on in a high traffic area because of the
> poor radio reception I get when they are on. A hand held VHF radio also
> picks up the static and the amount of static varies with the distance from
> the lights. The vendor is Plane Lights and they said they would take them
> back if I can't solve the problem. I tried their solution of running a
> ground directly to the battery and that didn't help at all. Is this a
> winnable battle worth the trouble or should I just send them back? Is
> there anything simple that can be done?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sheldon Olesen
>
>
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Subject: | Re: HID light noise |
Don't know. They fit in the MR16 wingtip kit for halogen lamps that Van's
sells. They look like this:
As far as I can tell, there's nothing "less noisy" about them!
I'm lucky in that they only affect my Comm2 so it's not that big a deal but
for someone with a single comm they'd be a showstopper.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Are they DS1 style? Those are supposed to be less noisy. That's how I
> ended up with Duckworks.
> Tim
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
> wrote:
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> saolesen@sirentel.net>
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > I've got a set of 50w HID lights that are extremely noisy. There is so
> much static on either the SL 30 or the 480 that they are practically
> useless. I don't dare turn them on in a high traffic area because of the
> poor radio reception I get when they are on. A hand held VHF radio also
> picks up the static and the amount of static varies with the distance from
> the lights. The vendor is Plane Lights and they said they would take them
> back if I can't solve the problem. I tried their solution of running a
> ground directly to the battery and that didn't help at all. Is this a
> winnable battle worth the trouble or should I just send them back? Is
> there anything simple that can be done?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Sheldon Olesen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: HID light noise |
I've Bob Archer nav antennas in each wing tip. With the ballast so close to
the antennas is there any hope a different HID system? With my wings paint
ed I don't want to be cutting holes in the leading edge. I'm doing the annu
al and the weather is crappy so now is a good time to be dealing with the pr
oblem.
Sheldon Olesen
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 12, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Don't know. They fit in the MR16 wingtip kit for halogen lamps that Van's
sells. They look like this:
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell, there's nothing "less noisy" about them!
>
> I'm lucky in that they only affect my Comm2 so it's not that big a deal bu
t for someone with a single comm they'd be a showstopper.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Are they DS1 style? Those are supposed to be less noisy. That's how I en
ded up with Duckworks.
> Tim
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net> wrote
:
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> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > I've got a set of 50w HID lights that are extremely noisy. There is so m
uch static on either the SL 30 or the 480 that they are practically useless.
I don't dare turn them on in a high traffic area because of the poor radio r
eception I get when they are on. A hand held VHF radio also picks up the s
tatic and the amount of static varies with the distance from the lights. T
he vendor is Plane Lights and they said they would take them back if I can't
solve the problem. I tried their solution of running a ground directly to t
he battery and that didn't help at all. Is this a winnable battle worth the
trouble or should I just send them back? Is there anything simple that can
be done?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Sheldon Olesen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: | Re: HID light noise |
Here is how I won the battle with noise from the cheap HID lights...
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=67875&highlight=Hid
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363475#363475
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Subject: | Re: ectric-List: |
Hello Paul
The GPS gives groundspeed, track, and position.
You can go into a lookup table to find the magnetic variation at your
position. If you know the TAS because you have pitot static info and
temperature, you should be able to solve for the wind vector I believe.
Same as can be done with an E6B computer. I think it goes heading vector
plus wind vector equals track vector. So if you know any two vectors you
can compute the third vector.
Mostly I was just pointing out that many glass PFD/ADI systems already
have all the sensor info they need to display a magnetic heading if the
designer wishes to display it. I often fly an aircraft that does just
that. It has no magnetic sensors but it computes and displays magnetic
heading.
Of course variation does change slightly over a multi year period so
minor changes in the lookup table might be appropriate every few years
if high accuracy is desired.
Ken
> S>
>
> On 1/4/2012 7:55 AM, Ken Lehman wrote:
> > Some rnav units that have airspeed inputs calculate drift and simply use
> > a lookup table to convert track to magnetic dg info.
> How would that work, Ken? Seems like knowing only airspeed and
> groundspeed, you don't know if the headwind/tailwind component is
> directly ahead/behind you or off a wingtip... so how does airspeed and
> groundspeed and track allow you to calculate heading?
>
> Paul
>
> --
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Subject: | Re: ectric-List: |
No, you're missing the heading. Your lookup table is just giving you the magnetic
adjustment to a 'true' track. Most GPS's do just that when you tell them you
want a magnetic track.
You said your aircraft has no access to magnetic information. Without that it can't
tell your plane is pointing in a direction other than the ground track -
magnetic or not. Your heading will only match your track in no wind conditions.
You still need something to tell you which way the plane is pointing, not tracking.
However if the EFIS has access to magnetic heading data, then you can calculate
wind speed and direction in the EFIS.
Bob Meyers
Flying my Sonex N982SX - Building log at http://n982sx.com
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:36 PM, "Ken Lehman" <klehman@albedo.net> wrote:
>
> Hello Paul
>
> The GPS gives groundspeed, track, and position.
> You can go into a lookup table to find the magnetic variation at your
> position. If you know the TAS because you have pitot static info and
> temperature, you should be able to solve for the wind vector I believe.
> Same as can be done with an E6B computer. I think it goes heading vector
> plus wind vector equals track vector. So if you know any two vectors you
> can compute the third vector.
>
> Mostly I was just pointing out that many glass PFD/ADI systems already
> have all the sensor info they need to display a magnetic heading if the
> designer wishes to display it. I often fly an aircraft that does just
> that. It has no magnetic sensors but it computes and displays magnetic
> heading.
>
> Of course variation does change slightly over a multi year period so
> minor changes in the lookup table might be appropriate every few years
> if high accuracy is desired.
>
> Ken
>
>> S>
>>
>> On 1/4/2012 7:55 AM, Ken Lehman wrote:
>>> Some rnav units that have airspeed inputs calculate drift and simply use
>>> a lookup table to convert track to magnetic dg info.
>> How would that work, Ken? Seems like knowing only airspeed and
>> groundspeed, you don't know if the headwind/tailwind component is
>> directly ahead/behind you or off a wingtip... so how does airspeed and
>> groundspeed and track allow you to calculate heading?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> --
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: HID light noise |
I tried copying your setup exactly, from your post to this list back in
February. I was pretty excited since your symptoms seemed identical to
mine, even the Dynon dropping offline. But, no luck...
What antenna are you using, and where is it? I have an Archer antenna in
each wingtip, one nav and one comm.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Brantel <bchesteen@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> Here is how I won the battle with noise from the cheap HID lights...
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=67875&highlight=Hid
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363475#363475
>
>
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Subject: | Re: HID light noise |
I have an archer Nav in the left wingtip and use it with a 430w.
The hid lights have no effect on them with my filters installed.
Keep in mind that these ballast for these cheap HID lights are not all created
equal or the same. I may have just gotten lucky with the ones I need up with.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363547#363547
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Subject: | Falcon amp/volt gauge hookup |
Ive just gotten a combo Falcon amp/volt gauge. It has four connections on the
back. Two connect to either side of the shunt. The third to ground. But the fourth
is supposed to connect to the ignition switch. But I have an ACS rotary
switch with multiple connections. The gauges are not reading though and I assume
it's because this fourth connection is not right. Does anyone know how this
last wire should be attached to the ignition switch?
Bill
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363548#363548
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Subject: | Re: Falcon amp/volt gauge hookup |
Bill,
<< Falcon amp/volt gauge. .. four connections .. But the fourth is supposed
to connect to the ignition switch. .. how this last wire should be attached
to the ignition switch? >>
Believe it goes to the BAT terminal which is at about 11 o'clock viewed from
the back on the ACS switch. You will need to crimp the proper sized ring
terminal onto the wire. The BAT terminal is the source of power for the
starter solenoid.
Tom Kuffel
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