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1. 01:44 AM - Re: Sign of the times (Tony Babb)
2. 01:45 AM - Re: Sign of the times (Tony Babb)
3. 04:38 AM - Re: Sign of the times (Harley)
4. 09:47 AM - Re: Sign of the times (Michael Pereira)
5. 10:12 AM - Paypal (MLE)
6. 10:25 AM - Re: Paypal (RGent1224@aol.com)
7. 10:58 AM - Re: Paypal (Jeff Luckey)
8. 12:41 PM - Dorne & Margolin DM C63-1 antenna (jerrytex)
9. 01:56 PM - Re: Dorne & Margolin DM C63-1 antenna (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 02:38 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Noel Loveys)
11. 04:25 PM - Re: Dorne & Margolin DM C63-1 antenna (jerrytex)
12. 05:08 PM - Thermocouple leads (Dennis Jones)
13. 05:54 PM - Re: Thermocouple leads ()
14. 05:55 PM - Re: Thermocouple leads (ROGER & JEAN CURTIS)
15. 08:36 PM - Re: Thermocouple leads (Dennis Jones)
16. 08:46 PM - Re: Re: Dorne & Margolin DM C63-1 antenna (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
17. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: Thermocouple leads (Jason Beaver)
18. 11:33 PM - Re: Can Xfeed damage smaller battery. (bobbarrow)
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| Subject: | Sign of the times |
Hi Bob,
I don't often comment on the list, been lurking for a long time though.
My wife and I run a small company and went through a similar issue some
months ago. In our case we accepted credit card orders by phone and
processed them on a separate terminal we've used for years and also took
website orders using PayPal. We eventually stopped accepting credit card
phone orders simply because the fixed fees were exorbitant. I see others
have commented on PayPal's fees, they seem fairly reasonable to me and there
is no fixed fee. Basically we're paying 30 cents plus 2.9% of the order
total. Roughly it's about 3% of most orders which is similar, I believe, to
what much bigger merchants pay MC and Visa.
My .02c
Tony.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:58 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Sign of the times
--> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
Our credit card processing company of some 15 years has been slowing driving
up the fixed fees. I've just received a letter informing me of my mandatory
enrollment in a "security validation program" for yet another fixed fee. My
gross sales simply won't support such burdens.
The fixed fees are but part of the $risk$. Their mandated 'service' might
well find that my 'network'
(one computer sitting behind two firewalls) is vulnerable and needs more
$upgrading$ as well.
I'm sorry to have to announce that effective immediately, the AEC website
catalog orders will have to be paid through PayPal.
I've been thinking about getting a PayPal friendly shopping cart program . .
. the problem is the assumption that everything in the catalog is in stock
for shipment now
. . . or that I'm not out of town. I don't want to ding folks for cash
until their order is ready to ship. Easy with the old system. But for the
time being, we'll issue PP invoices as the orders come together.
All CC orders pending will be shipped by the end of this month under the old
system.
All remittance for new orders will have to flow through PayPal.
Sorry for the inconveniences folks.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Sign of the times |
Bob B,
Just fyi, you don't need a PayPal account to pay for something, you just use
your credit card - although PP tries to get you to use a PP account you
don't have to.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Borger
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Sign of the times
--> <rlborger@mac.com>
Bob,
Too bad, but I understand. I have a Pay-Pal account which I actually use
once in a while. Not an inconvenience, if I can just remember the password.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jan 28, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> --> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>
> All remittance for new orders will have to flow through PayPal.
>
> Sorry for the inconveniences folks.
>
>
> Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Sign of the times |
And, I might as well add my 2 cents here...now there is no fee
charged to either the sender or the recipient if the payment is
within the US and you pay from either a Paypal balance or
directly from your bank account. There is a fee charged for use
of credit or debit cards or international payments.
Quoting Paypal: "*New! Free* for sender and recipient in the US
when you send using your bank account or PayPal balance."
Harley
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On 1/31/2012 4:42 AM, Tony Babb wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tony Babb"<tonybabb@alejandra.net>
>
> Bob B,
>
> Just fyi, you don't need a PayPal account to pay for something, you just use
> your credit card - although PP tries to get you to use a PP account you
> don't have to.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Borger
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:32 AM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Sign of the times
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert Borger
> --> <rlborger@mac.com>
>
> Bob,
>
> Too bad, but I understand. I have a Pay-Pal account which I actually use
> once in a while. Not an inconvenience, if I can just remember the password.
>
> Blue skies& tailwinds,
> Bob Borger
> Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
> Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208-5331
> Cel: 817-992-1117
> rlborger@mac.com
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
>
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
>> --> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>>
>> All remittance for new orders will have to flow through PayPal.
>>
>> Sorry for the inconveniences folks.
>>
>>
>> Bob . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sign of the times |
Hi Bob,
paypal is *HIGHLY* biased towards the consumer vs the seller. Please google
the horror stories. There are many examples of people/companies that
basically had to suspend their businesses for weeks or months while they
lined up alternatives to paypal (after paypal unilaterally made
unacceptable changes).
If it isn't too rude. How large of a monthly fixed charge is too much ?
There are payment/ecommerce sites geared towards lower volume businesses
(the catch is you pay a bigger percentage of the sale to them).
Thanks,
Michael
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com**>
>
> At 08:31 AM 1/29/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Too bad, but I understand. I have a Pay-Pal account which I actually us
e
>> once in a while. Not an inconvenience, if I can just remember the passw
ord=85
>>
>
> I've had a PP account for years. Since I live out
> in the hinterlands, EVERYTHING is 100 miles away.
> When a project comes to a crawl (or dead in the water)
> for lack of some item, the first place I look is eBay.
> Probably 80% of the time I can find what I need there
> even if it's a week or more away . . . just move on
> to another project until the stuff arrives.
>
> PP is exceedingly buyer friendly. I've even considered
> going to an eBay Store format as opposed to my website
> catalog page, but then I pay listing fees on top of
> seller fees. Of course those can be compensate for
> in my pricing but for now, I'd rather keep everything
> humming on Matt's servers. Perhaps not practical from
> a business sense but it preserves the fraternity.
>
> There's something to be said for doing business with
> the folks you KNOW.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
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Is anyone else getting messages like these from Paypal? I do not have a
Paypal account!
I believe, the folks sending me this are "phishing". Be careful!
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looks like SPAM
send it to the S[AM file
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Is anyone else getting messages like these from Paypal? I do not have a
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I believe, the folks sending me this are "phishing". Be careful!
Marty RV-6A
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This is much worse than SPAM!
It is a phishing attack, just as the original poster observed.
It is very dangerous! And is some email clients (like Outlook), even a
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dangerous!
The safest thing is to not click on anything in the email and is just delete
it. (then empty your recycle bin)
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| Subject: | Dorne & Margolin DM C63-1 antenna |
I have a DM C63-1 antenna that I need to relocate on my kitfox. It is inside the
fuselage (done by another builder) and it will not transmit since it is basically
in a cage of tubing. My fuselage has been modified with the factory mounting
plates removed. I have an idea about making a clamping type plate that I
can slip under the fabric and mount to the tubes but the top of the fuselage has
a "Spline" and is not flat so the antenna would be off to one side. I am thinking
about a belly mount and was curious to know if anyone has ever bent the
DM antennas? I know they make a bent one (DM C63-2) but I am wondering if I could
just bend the one I have I have to meet the clearance needed for a belly
mount.
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| Subject: | Re: Dorne & Margolin DM C63-1 antenna |
>I am wondering if I could just bend the one I have I have to meet
>the clearance needed for a belly mount.
The pictures I see for this antenna appear to show
a painted antenna rod. Is this a solid metal rod
or is it some kind of conductor stuck inside a fiberglas
sheath?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Transponder antenna |
Assuming you have a metal plane mount it to the skin on the bottom of the
fuselage. Remember as with all antennae cleanliness counts! Lock washers do
help make a good connection to the skin but it is always better to have the
area directly under the antenna, on both sides shiny clean before
installing.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of B Tomm
Sent: January 31, 2012 12:08 AM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Transponder antenna
Good question.
Don't have an answer but would also like to know if the transponder needs
some backing reinforcement or just mount it to the belly skin?
Bevan
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tomcostanza
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:49 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Transponder antenna
--> <Tom@CostanzaAndAssociates.com>
Should I be concerned about mounting a transponder antenna near fuel
lines/fittings?
--------
Clear Skies,
Tom Costanza
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| Subject: | Re: Dorne & Margolin DM C63-1 antenna |
I am not sure if its metal or not. I am not near the plane and was wondering if
anyone knew. I was trying to get my gameplan down before I go back to the hangar
an hour away. This also got me to thinking... I was looking at the DIY CB
antenna and I was thinking this might be the best route for me if I could bend
it. Will mounting it on the belly and bending it back cause problems?
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Thermocouple leads |
I had to increase the length of the thermocouple leads to reach the data processing
unit. All six cylinders show abnormally high temps. Could the increase in
resistance cause the temperature increase?
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| Subject: | Re: Thermocouple leads |
EGT or CHT?
How were they "extended"?
What type of thermocouple? (K, J, Resistive)
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Jones
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:05 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Thermocouple leads
<djones@northboone.net>
I had to increase the length of the thermocouple leads to reach the data
processing unit. All six cylinders show abnormally high temps. Could the
increase in resistance cause the temperature increase?
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| Subject: | Thermocouple leads |
I had to increase the length of the thermocouple leads to reach the data
processing unit. All six cylinders show abnormally high temps. Could the
increase in resistance cause the temperature increase?
Dennis,
Did you use thermocouple wire for the extension?
Thermocouples generate a potential depending upon the temperature
difference
from one end to the other. You must use proper procedure when extending
these wires.
Roger
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| Subject: | Re: Thermocouple leads |
Both CHT and EGT. They are thermocouple wire. I used the exact same wire as the
equipment came with. I silver soldered the new lead extensions as shown by Bob.
I do have a multimeter that will test thermocouple wire however I have not
used that feature as of yet. The one test I have not attempted is the check of
the indication without the engine running. My studies show that they should indicate
ambient temperature.
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| Subject: | Re: Dorne & Margolin DM C63-1 antenna |
At 06:20 PM 1/31/2012, you wrote:
I am not sure if its metal or not. I am not near the plane and was
wondering if anyone knew. I was trying to get my gameplan down before
I go back to the hangar an hour away. This also got me to thinking...
I was looking at the DIY CB antenna and I was thinking this might be
the best route for me if I could bend it. Will mounting it on the
belly and bending it back cause problems?
Bending the antenna has very little effect on performance.
The "business section" of a vertical antenna is in the
bottom 1/3rd or so, bending the upper 2/3rds has the effect
of electrically lengthening or lowering it's resonant frequency
but even that effect is minimal.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Thermocouple leads |
Does anyone know if there are any issues in running EGT/CHT thermocouple wires
along side the coax ignition leads from a Lightspeed Plasma II ignition (the lines
between the ignition box and the coils)? My tech counselor said this could
be a source of inaccuracy in the temperature reading.
thanks,
jason
On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Dennis Jones wrote:
>
> Both CHT and EGT. They are thermocouple wire. I used the exact same wire as the
equipment came with. I silver soldered the new lead extensions as shown by
Bob. I do have a multimeter that will test thermocouple wire however I have not
used that feature as of yet. The one test I have not attempted is the check
of the indication without the engine running. My studies show that they should
indicate ambient temperature.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365354#365354
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Can Xfeed damage smaller battery. |
Bob, thank you for your expert advice.
My sole battery bus (which runs my one Plasma 11 electronic ignition...magneto
on other side) sources its power from the smaller battery ie. it's on the aux
bus. I set things up this way so that the voltage drop on the main bus during
starting would not affect the electronic igniton and perhaps cause a damaging
engine backfire (which has been known to happen).
You seem to be suggesting that it is possible that the small 8AH battery could
be overheated during normal operations by the 20A B&C alternator if the battery
is heavily discharged. Is that correct. In normal cruise operations I am only
drawing about 5 amps on the aux bus.
I guess my concern is that if the small battery overheats it could fail internally
and therefore I would lose my electronic ignition. Am I over thinking this.
nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect wrote:
>
> If the small alternator fails then closing the cross-feed
> contactor only puts your fully charged small battery in
> parallel with the main battery . . . no big deal.
>
> The only RISK to the small battery is to CHARGE it heavily
> from either alternator. If you KNOW that the little battery
> has been heavily discharged, better that you bring it up
> on a current limited charger before you go flying. Alternatively,
> charge in flight on the little alternator with as many aux
> bus accessories turned on as possible thus limiting the
> energy "left over" to charge the battery.
>
> But connecting dissimilar batteries in parallel presents
> no special risks to either battery. Both will deliver what
> ever energy they contain in an orderly manner. You just
> need to be careful not to stuff energy back into the little
> guy at a rate which will heat it up pretty good.
> Bob . . .
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