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1. 03:43 AM - Re: For Sale: Two Cheltons, EI MVP-50, Pinpoint ADAHRS and Spare Smart Data Cards (David)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
3. 06:19 AM - Re: Red Dot Digital SWR Meter (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 06:57 AM - Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
5. 06:57 AM - Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 08:15 AM - Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
7. 09:18 AM - KT-76 Wire harness connectors. (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 10:14 AM - Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
9. 10:52 AM - Garmin 340A Acting Up ()
10. 12:00 PM - Re:door opener (James Robinson)
11. 12:40 PM - Re: Red Dot Digital SWR Meter (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 01:17 PM - Re: Re:door opener (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
13. 04:29 PM - Re: Garmin 340A Acting Up (Sam Marlow)
14. 07:01 PM - Re: Garmin 340A Acting Up (David Lloyd)
15. 09:35 PM - com antenna mounted (messydeer)
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Subject: | Re: For Sale: Two Cheltons, EI MVP-50, Pinpoint ADAHRS |
and Spare Smart Data Cards
It ALWAYS helps if you give some idea of the prices you're looking for.
David M.
Michael McMahon wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Michael McMahon"<mike@aeromotogroup.com>
>
> For Sale:
>
> * Dual screen Chelton with EIU and Pinpoint, brand new and unopened in the
> box in which it was shipped to me from Lancair
> * Single screen EFIS with Watson purchased from Greg Poe via eBay in 2004,
> never touched since arrival
> * Pinpoint ADAHRS (NO GPS) purchased from SteinAir
>
> * Garmin GPS35 antenna to provide GPS signal to Pinpoint ADAHRS (other
> antennae work, too)
>
> * Electronics International MVP50 six cylinder with all sensors etc. still
> in all the original plastic and bubble wrap
>
> * Two extra Smart Data cards, unused
>
> When there's money to buy avionics, there's no time to build. When there's
> time to build, there's not enough money to justify hanging onto the
> avionics!
>
>
> Please contact me with any questions at afm528 (AT) gmail (DOT) com. I'm
> motivated, make me a fair offer and it's yours. I'll be posting on a couple
> other forums, then eBay if nobody from the forums is interested. Thank you
> for looking.
>
> Please forward to anyone you know who might be interested, I'd appreciate
> it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mike
> Lancair ES N9637M (in progress)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Borger
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Red Dot Digital SWR Meter
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert Borger
> --> <rlborger@mac.com>
>
> Bob,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply. One last question. After you power up the SWR
> Meter, do you transmit on the radio to get the readings or does it magically
> throw electrons about to get the readings?
>
> I'll take it to the hanger tomorrow and, with any luck, I'll be able to give
> it a test.
>
> Blue skies& tailwinds,
> Bob Borger
> Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
> Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208-5331
> Cel: 817-992-1117
> rlborger@mac.com
>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
>
>
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
>> --> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>>
>> At 05:43 PM 2/8/2012, you wrote:
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> The Red Dot Digital SWR Meter that I ordered last week has arrived from
>>>
> China.
>
>>> Here's a picture of the front:
>>>
>>> It appears very well built with a steel(?) case.
>>>
>>> Here's a picture of the back:
>>>
>>> Now for the best part. Here's a scan of the instructions, front and
>>>
> back:
>
>>
>> I think mine is here too. Need to get to the PO Box in the morning.
>> I've looked for an English instruction manual but nothing turned up
>> in the time I had.
>>
>> I did find this narrative by a user:
>>
>> Specifications:
>>
>> MAX.POWER 120W
>> V.S.W.R 1.00~19.9
>> FREQUENCY RANGE VHF(145mhz) / UHF(45mhz) COVER:100mhz~500mhz ONSERTION
>> LOSS< 0.15dB(VHF) ,< 0.25dB(UHF) TEMPERATURE 0?~70?
>> BATTERY
>> 3 x AAA Type Battery or Rechargeable<2mA
>>
>> (battery not included in this sale)
>>
>> SZIE 66*68*37 (mm)
>> INTERFACE N(SL16)
>> WEIGHT 260g (without battery)
>> Instructions:
>>
>> Battery installation: Remove 4 black round screws on the corner of back
>>
> cover and open it. Install 3 AAA batteries. BE CAUTIOUS to the polarities.
> Put the cover on and fasten the screws. IMPROPER INSTALLATION OF BACK COVER
> WILL CAUSE ERROR ON U-BAND MEASUREMENT!
>
>> Connect the Output of your transceiver to "TX" and Antenna or Load to
>>
> "ANT". NOTE: UV-Band meter utilize "N" type connectors; and"SL16" connectors
> (normally named "M" connecter) for HF-Band. Proper adaptor/cable is required
> if your device has different type of connectors.
>
>> Press the red button to power on. After 2 seconds of LCD self test, it's
>>
> ready for normal measurement.
>
>> UV-Band meter will display in sequence:"+ XXX P" (pass through power),"-
>>
> XXX P" (feed back power)," XXX G" (SWR value), 2 seconds display for each
> mode. Press the red button will hold the current display. Press it again to
> continue the display.
>
>> Under the environment of night or weak illumination, just press and hold
>>
> the red button for 1 second to turn the blue back light on. Press and hold
> the red button for 1 second again to turn it off.
>
>> 8 minutes after no power was measured, it will power off automatically.
>>
> Press and hold the red button for 2 seconds to turn off manually.
>
>>
>>
>> Bob . . .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable |
Thanks Bob,
I have the service manual, but there is no hint of what the capacitance or
impedance is of the loop cables. It does show the cable as 2 separately
shielded 2 conductor cables. The install manual gives 2 part numbers of
cables (different lengths) and also says to not alter the length. One is 15 ft.
and one is 24 ft.
I bought this radio and antenna at OSH for, I think, $25. I repaired the
radio -- found a leaky capacitor in the synthesizer loop filter which caused
a loud 1 KHz noise that covered up all signals.
This is just a hobby project, so I don't want to spend lots of money on
it. I've already spent twice as much on manuals as the radio cost!
I am a EE, and have been a ham for over 50 years, built a lot of
equipment, etc. There should be a way to solve this problem, but so far I haven't
been able to! I'll try some things -- like measure the antenna inductance to
get an idea of the impedance we're dealing with. I can also make some
measurement on the goniometer, and front end coils that it feeds. That gets a
little complicated!
Thanks for the help. If anything else comes to mind please let me know.
Dan
In a message dated 2/8/2012 7:47:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com writes:
At 03:15 PM 2/8/2012, you wrote:
I have a KR-86 ADF receiver and KA42 loop antenna, but no cable. I'd like
to fabricate a cable.
Apparently the capacitance of the cable is critical. Can anyone tell me
what this capacitance should be and how to measure it? Also, is the cable 2
separately shielded twisted pairs, or can the twisted pairs both be in the
same shield, like telephone cable?
Not sure without schematics and a service
manual. There have been numerous service bulletins
over the years that called for confirmation
of a sense or loop cable assembly's capacitance.
For many radios of the era, coax capacitance
was an integral component of resonant or reactive
circuits within the receiver.
I recall writing accessory kits for ADF installations
wherein the installer fabricated a sense antenna
coax from some weird coax with a very tiny center
conductor in a relatively large hollow insulator
sleeve. Car radios used to use the same stuff . . .
very LOW capacitance/foot was key. Here's a tid-bit
I found on the 'net about low cap receiving coax:
The real reason car radios used ~90 ohm coax is 90-95 ohms works out to be
the very highest impedance practical in a coaxial line having minimum
possible shunt capacitance and reasonable outer and workable conductor size.
This is entirely because of the short unloaded whip antenna on the car, and
the AM broadcast bands low frequency that makes the antenna the tiniest
fraction of a wave tall. The small car antenna is a voltage probe on AM
broadcast. The short car antenna is an extremely high impedance source on the
AM
band. The AM receiver has a very high input impedance, ideally hundreds or
thousands of ohms. Any shunt capacitance to ground in the connection between
the receiver and antenna forms the lower leg of a voltage divider that
reduces the RF voltage available at the AM radio input.
The car system is not operating in a normal transmission line mode.
This type of cable was also used for some old data lines, and it can work
as a transmission line, but generally it is pretty lossy compared to other
cables. After all, nearly all HF and VHF loss is caused by conductor
resistance and this cable has a pretty thin center conductor.
As the article states, coax used in this application
is not behaving like a matched transmission line but
simply a shielded wire chosen to minimize the upset
for very high impedance receiver front ends.
RG62 is the only modern coax I can find with a low
capacitance (13.0 pf/ft). You could probably make
a new cable from this stuff if you knew what the total
allowable capacitance was . . . this sets cable
length.
These folks offer cables for KR-76 in various
lengths. Perhaps they fabricate them locally.
_http://www.bennettavionics.com/kr86system.html_
(http://www.bennettavionics.com/kr86system.html)
Bob . . .
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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Subject: | Re: Red Dot Digital SWR Meter |
At 08:02 PM 2/8/2012, you wrote:
>
>Bob,
>
>Thanks for the quick reply. One last question. After you power up
>the SWR Meter, do you transmit on the radio to get the readings or
>does it magically throw electrons about to get the readings?
No, this is a passive instrument. It reads your "forward"
and "reverse" power in watts. So it is both a test of your
transmitter's power output and a display of antenna/feedline
quality.
I'll run to the Post Office in the morning. I'm pretty certain
I have one waiting for me there.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable |
At 08:02 AM 2/9/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>Thanks Bob,
>
>
>I have the service manual, but there is no hint of what the
>capacitance or impedance is of the loop cables. It does show the
>cable as 2 separately shielded 2 conductor cables. The install
>manual gives 2 part numbers of cables (different lengths) and also
>says to not alter the length. One is 15 ft. and one is 24 ft.
Could you scan the radio's front end schematic
and share it?
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable |
At 08:02 AM 2/9/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>Thanks Bob,
>
>
>I have the service manual, but there is no hint of what the
>capacitance or impedance is of the loop cables. It does show the
>cable as 2 separately shielded 2 conductor cables. The install
>manual gives 2 part numbers of cables (different lengths) and also
>says to not alter the length. One is 15 ft. and one is 24 ft.
Yeah. I seem to recall a tid bit from the dark recesses
of history that the longer cable was the 'golden' device
and the shorter one had padding capacitors in the connector
to make up the difference between the two.
I don't think there were any off the shelf, low capacitance
cables made as twisted pairs. Those would be comparatively
huge bundles. When they went to an internal goniometer,
the loop became less critical . . . impedance matching
could be accomplished in the gonio-transformer.
Do you intend to fly this radio? What's the expected
distance from radio to loop? If it's relatively
short, say on the order of 6-10 feet, I think I'd
try plain vanilla shielded pairs and see what happens.
I don't know if I ever knew . . . is this radio among
the ranks of those where the long-wire sense antenna was
eliminated?
Given the wide frequency coverage (250-1700 KHz)
1:7 ratio, it seem unlikely that antenna features
and feedlines will be in any way resonant. It seems
more likely that special attention be paid to ratiometric
values of impedance and phase. So I'm guessing that
the feedlines for this radio need only be identical
as opposed to trimmed for resonance.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable |
Hi Bob,
Mainly I just want to learn more about ADF. I also have a 1946 Stinson
(besides the RV-7A) that I may install it in once its working just to see
what ADF navigation is like, but that is some time away.
Yes, I'll try some plain vanilla cable to start with. I think that 6 to
10 ft. would work in the Stinson. Two ft. would work on the bench here.
If one knew the value of the padding capacitor and the length of cable it
replaced, that would answer the question, wouldn't it?
There is a bench setup in the service manual that mentions a cable (pn
200-0440-00) with capacitance of 144 pF. (I found this after sending the
email below.) It also shows a sense cable (pn 200-0447-00) with the same
capacitance. The loop cable part number is not the same as in the installation
manual, though!!
There is mention of a King Service Memo -- SM75 -- in The Technicians
Notebook by Jerry Gordon.
www.aerostandard.com/images/TecnNote.pdf
He says, "Its a long drawn out procedure to determine the proper ADF sense
antenna configuration. What it boils down to is you need a capacitance
meter in your shop." I know we're talking about loop antennas here, but I'd
be interested to see SM75 if you have access to it.
I can scan the test setup page and the receiver front end. I don't think
attachments will work on this list. How do I share the scans. I can send
them as .pdf files.
Dan
In a message dated 2/9/2012 9:57:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com writes:
At 08:02 AM 2/9/2012, you wrote:
Thanks Bob,
I have the service manual, but there is no hint of what the capacitance or
impedance is of the loop cables. It does show the cable as 2 separately
shielded 2 conductor cables. The install manual gives 2 part numbers of
cables (different lengths) and also says to not alter the length. One is 15 ft.
and one is 24 ft.
Yeah. I seem to recall a tid bit from the dark recesses
of history that the longer cable was the 'golden' device
and the shorter one had padding capacitors in the connector
to make up the difference between the two.
I don't think there were any off the shelf, low capacitance
cables made as twisted pairs. Those would be comparatively
huge bundles. When they went to an internal goniometer,
the loop became less critical . . . impedance matching
could be accomplished in the gonio-transformer.
Do you intend to fly this radio? What's the expected
distance from radio to loop? If it's relatively
short, say on the order of 6-10 feet, I think I'd
try plain vanilla shielded pairs and see what happens.
I don't know if I ever knew . . . is this radio among
the ranks of those where the long-wire sense antenna was
eliminated?
Given the wide frequency coverage (250-1700 KHz)
1:7 ratio, it seem unlikely that antenna features
and feedlines will be in any way resonant. It seems
more likely that special attention be paid to ratiometric
values of impedance and phase. So I'm guessing that
the feedlines for this radio need only be identical
as opposed to trimmed for resonance.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | KT-76 Wire harness connectors. |
I have some 2 row x 12 slot x .156" pitch card
edge connectors with solder tabs. I believe this
fits the KT-76 transponder and several other
pieces of vintage avionics.
$3 each to interested parties . . .
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: King KR-86 Loop Cable |
Bob,
I forgot to answer this question.
Bob asked:
I don't know if I ever knew . . . is this radio among
the ranks of those where the long-wire sense antenna was
eliminated?
Yes, sort of, but not in my case:
The loop antenna I have -- KA42 -- requires a separate "50 pF" sense
antenna. I see in the install manual that the radio is designed for 194 pF
sense antenna system -- 144 pF cable plus 50 pF antenna. It also refers to
Field Service Memo #75 which I would like to find.
The loop antenna KA42B has a built in sense antenna. It requires a
matching assembly (pn 200-02104-0000). The schematic for this assembly is shown
in the install manual. It feeds 8V to the antenna unit and uses 50 ohm
coax -- length not critical. Apparently there is an amplifier in the antenna
unit.
Dan
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Subject: | Garmin 340A Acting Up |
I was out flying on Saturday and all of a sudden my Garmin 340A audio panel lit
up like a Christmas tree. All of the lights came on at once. I pressed Com1 and
Com3 buttons a few times and then everything went black.
Then I remembered that old adage about gas in the truck, sky above you and your
spare radio back in the car :)
Since it was snowing I turned back to the field and on the way back turned switches
on/off, pushed buttons to no avail and so on.
Back at the shop I checked the fuses (all good), re-seated the connections, turned
the ship's power on/off, cursed at it and so on. All efforts were in vain.
I then turned the ships power back on, turned the power switch on and pressed
the "Test" button.
With that all the marker lights went on. Releasing the test button extinguished
the lights and all was again dark.
Any thoughts? Has anyone seen this behavior before?
Up until Saturday the unit worked without issue.
Glenn
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Hi Bob=0AI am trying to make a unit to disable a garage door type opener fo
r my hanger door.- It seems a switch that could be remotely activated to
disconnect the opener sensor line would be the simplest.- Your ideas?=0A
=0AJim=0A=0A-=0AJames Robinson=0AGlasair lll N79R=0ASpanish Fork UT U77
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III
" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>=0ATo: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0A
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:10 AM=0ASubject: AeroElectric-List: KT-7
Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>=0A=0AI have some 2
row x 12 slot x .156" pitch card=0Aedge connectors with solder tabs. I bel
ieve this=0Afits the KT-76 transponder and several other=0Apieces of vintag
e avionics.=0A=0A$3 each to interested parties . . .=0A=0A=0A=0A- Bob . .
====================
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Subject: | Re: Red Dot Digital SWR Meter |
The "Red Dot" SWR meter was waiting for me at the
Post Office this morning. I don't have a lot of sources
for significant power generation at VHF but here's
what I found.
When compared with some Bird wattmeters, the Red
Dot readings were in agreement to within 10% or
better at 130 MHz (1W hand held) and 146 Mhz
(5, 10 and 50W transceiver). The Red Dot pronounced
one of my loads as presenting a 1.2:1 SWR and
the forward 9W, reverse 0.08W readings were
consistent with calculations to produce
1.2:1 SWR.
Even with the 1W hand held, it was in direct
agreement with the Bird equipment at 0.9 watts
out.
When you power it up, it cycles between forward
power, reverse power and SWR. You can hit the button
to hold it in one of these three readings if you're
making adjustments.
Inside appearance is good. It even has multi-turn
trim pots and itty-bitty variable capacitors no
doubt useful for calibration (or re-calibration
in the future). The interior inspection revealed
the time honored pair of directional couplers
and their associated load/detector components.
The real value for this little guy probably
lies with the microprocessor driven display.
I have every reason to believe that the designers
use a processor not only for a/d and display
driver, I suspect their calculations take
low power detector non-linearities into
account as well. A 1W power level does not produce 1%
of the DC output as a 100W power level.
From what I've seen today, this instrument appears
to be a good value and MUCH more suited to VHF
measurement than most of the commercial-off-the-shelf
CB/HAM meters in circulation.
If you're contemplating acquisition of this
product, don't forget to order BNC-F to N-Male
adapters. You'll also want to fabricate a piece
of coax about 2' long with BNC connectors on
each end to let you insert the instrument into
your ship's transmission line.
Bob . . .
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At 01:58 PM 2/9/2012, you wrote:
>Hi Bob
>I am trying to make a unit to disable a garage door type opener for
>my hanger door. It seems a switch that could be remotely activated
>to disconnect the opener sensor line would be the simplest. Your ideas?
How about adding a garage-door opener type radio remoted to
operate the hangar door and changing your exposed switch
to some kind of key-operated so that you can still have
wired access if the batteries run down in your remote?
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: Garmin 340A Acting Up |
Had a similar issue, but only involved the transmit 1 & 2 functions,
the transmitions were unreadable! It's still unresolved..............:-(
longg@pjm.com wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by:<longg@pjm.com>
>
> I was out flying on Saturday and all of a sudden my Garmin 340A audio panel lit
up like a Christmas tree. All of the lights came on at once. I pressed Com1
and Com3 buttons a few times and then everything went black.
>
> Then I remembered that old adage about gas in the truck, sky above you and your
spare radio back in the car :)
>
> Since it was snowing I turned back to the field and on the way back turned switches
on/off, pushed buttons to no avail and so on.
>
> Back at the shop I checked the fuses (all good), re-seated the connections, turned
the ship's power on/off, cursed at it and so on. All efforts were in vain.
I then turned the ships power back on, turned the power switch on and pressed
the "Test" button.
>
> With that all the marker lights went on. Releasing the test button extinguished
the lights and all was again dark.
>
> Any thoughts? Has anyone seen this behavior before?
>
> Up until Saturday the unit worked without issue.
>
> Glenn
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Garmin 340A Acting Up |
Unless Garmin has changed their customer support attitude, I suggest giving
them a call and get a senior panel avionics tech guy on the phone. They
will work with you. And, it could turn out that they fix it for n/c.....
Dave
_________________________________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Marlow" <sam.marlow@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Garmin 340A Acting Up
> <sam.marlow@roadrunner.com>
>
> Had a similar issue, but only involved the transmit 1 & 2 functions, the
> transmitions were unreadable! It's still unresolved..............:-(
>
> longg@pjm.com wrote:
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by:<longg@pjm.com>
>>
>> I was out flying on Saturday and all of a sudden my Garmin 340A audio
>> panel lit up like a Christmas tree. All of the lights came on at once. I
>> pressed Com1 and Com3 buttons a few times and then everything went black.
>>
>> Then I remembered that old adage about gas in the truck, sky above you
>> and your spare radio back in the car :)
>>
>> Since it was snowing I turned back to the field and on the way back
>> turned switches on/off, pushed buttons to no avail and so on.
>>
>> Back at the shop I checked the fuses (all good), re-seated the
>> connections, turned the ship's power on/off, cursed at it and so on. All
>> efforts were in vain. I then turned the ships power back on, turned the
>> power switch on and pressed the "Test" button.
>>
>> With that all the marker lights went on. Releasing the test button
>> extinguished the lights and all was again dark.
>>
>> Any thoughts? Has anyone seen this behavior before?
>>
>> Up until Saturday the unit worked without issue.
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>>
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Subject: | com antenna mounted |
Hi!
Thought I'd post a followup from a few months ago when I was making my com antenna. See http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=85809 In short, it's a RadioShack CB antenna that I cut short. This allowed me to screw in the threaded post into the female-female coupler, which I threaded onto the UHF antenna connector I got off ebay, which is also shown in the original post. It came with a white plastic shoulder washer that insulates the antenna from the airframe. So far all this is on the outside.
On the inside is the other end of the UHF connector and a UHF to BNC adapter on
top of it (my antenna is belly mounted). I gave Bob the length needed for my
antenna cable and he made up an assembly with 90 BNC connectors on each end. This
is a really great deal, since I don't have crimping tools for this.
It was time to install it permanently today, so I took a couple pics and have posted
them below. You can also see a small 063 doubler I added. And in the outside
pic, the shoulder harness is dangling below the floor, making for a little
confusing pic.
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Dan
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